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justinc
19th November 2009, 09:26 PM
I have found this up for auction soon in Hobart, anyone have any info about their rideability/ reliability etc? I have previously owned a XT600 and a DR650RS and always wanted a Cagiva, thinking about another tourer/ dual purpose bike. Having broken HEAPS of bones on bikes in the past, SWMBO is not to know, yet.:
(Vehicle Detail - Pickles Auctions Australia (http://www.pickles.com.au/damaged/vehicle/CP-03-05-Cagiva-Navigator-1000-Dual-Purpose-Cycle-2-Seats/itemid-1-302017558/lotid-0)
JC
V8Ian
19th November 2009, 09:41 PM
It got a big engine hasn't it? 1,000 litres :o:D
Grockle
19th November 2009, 10:09 PM
I won't say anything
nice1guv
19th November 2009, 10:36 PM
I've never had a Cagiva, but I believe they are reliable, give good smooth grunt and sound impressive.
They also have a comfortable upright riding position and with a good set of tyres you can go just about anywhere.
Although ,because they are a Cagiva they are rare, which makes getting parts harder especially if you tour.
Engine wise I doubt there is anything you couldn't fix.
My biggest concern would be with structural damage from the fall.
Take a close look at the forks and triple clamps for straightness and look for cracks at the mounting points on the frame for the swingarm and engine.
If it is straight, and the price is right, then it would be a nice bike to own.
twitchy
19th November 2009, 10:55 PM
That particular Cagiva will be EXTREMELY reliable since it is powered by a "Suzuki SV1000" engine......lol.
They are a great thing.
Looks like a cosmetic repair mainly, should be a good buy.
nice1guv
19th November 2009, 11:07 PM
That particular Cagiva will be EXTREMELY reliable since it is powered by a "Suzuki SV1000" engine......lol.
When did they change from the Ducati engine? :o
twitchy
19th November 2009, 11:10 PM
Cagiva bought out a few models powered by both the SV650 & SV1000 engines.
The Raptor was one & the one you are looking at is another I believe.
nice1guv
19th November 2009, 11:18 PM
Quick search tells me 2004 was the Navigator changeover from Ducati power to SV1000.
Second look and those pipes do appear to be a SV1000, I can't tell from the pics that sort of show the engine.
Second twitchy on the Suzi engine though, Suzuki reliability in a Cagiva body = Noice! :p
crump
20th November 2009, 08:07 AM
the SV 1000 engine is just a derivative of the TL1000 which has been around for donkeys, parts would be no problem.The Navigator was very popular here before the release of the DL series Suzukis (same donk again),there are heaps still out there.
CraigE
20th November 2009, 11:06 AM
The V twin does not look like the Ducati/Cagiva engine so as said would probablly be the Suzuki engine. Both Ducati and Suzuki parts are fairly easy to get and there is a fair bit of a myth that Ducati parts are dearer. They may be slightly dearer but not by that much and it depends on what parts you are buying and through who. Also it also depends on the model eg Suzuki can be quite expensive if it is not a current or recent model and parts are not standard in Australia. I know from prevously owning an older Suzuki a lot of parts were ex Japan and not stocked in Australia. These Suzuki engines however are reasonablly common. I would have a quick chat with your Suzuki dealer and see what parts availabilty is.
Cap
20th November 2009, 01:21 PM
Having broken HEAPS of bones on bikes in the past, SWMBO is not to know, yet.:
JC
I can feel a "blackmail" coming on.... :p :p
Pedro_The_Swift
20th November 2009, 05:40 PM
are you thinking straight Justin,,
the seat height will be around 850,,,
boot tip extensions and a box for you!!!
:Rolling:
Pedro_The_Swift
20th November 2009, 05:44 PM
my apologies Justin,,
only 800:p
WiseBuyer's Guides - Cagiva Navigator 1000 bike road test (http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motorcycles/bike-reviews/Cagiva/Navigator+1000/107/)
justinc
20th November 2009, 10:16 PM
are you thinking straight Justin,,
the seat height will be around 850,,,
boot tip extensions and a box for you!!!
:Rolling:
:D:D:D Tell me about it Peter! I had to scallop out the seat foam and drop the forks through the clamps a little(Made it handle pretty average) on my DR650RS and even then had to tippy toes at rest:o. Had to kick start it with the side stand down, standing on the pegs:D:D:D
Great tourer though, 22litre tank and fairing/ screen standard, got 56MPG and was a nice bike to ride distances on. It was no Beemer but was a lot cheaper to buy and maintain.
The Tenere was a pig compared, an early, coarse noisy thing. A bit lighter and was better on loose stuff I thought. Loved the dual throat carb for that secondary 'kick' too:twisted:
Not sure about owning a Cagiva with a Suzi motor, maybe reliable etc but I really wanted the Italian twin experience...:( We'll see.
JC
El Duderino
25th November 2009, 10:45 PM
I've never had a Cagiva, but I believe they are reliable, give good smooth grunt and sound impressive.
They also have a comfortable upright riding position and with a good set of tyres you can go just about anywhere.
Although ,because they are a Cagiva they are rare, which makes getting parts harder especially if you tour.
I have a 2007 Cagiva Mito, and felt I could add a few things to this thread. Like many have pointed out, the Cagiva you're looking at is an Suzuki engine, but is in fact an evolutionary Suzuki TL1000S engine (not the same as the SV1000) which means that engine parts are somewhat easy to find and should ensure reliability. Remember that the donor bike for the engine is collectable and will ensure that engine parts will stay at a premium. ;)
Having said that, Cagiva are possibly one of THE most frustrating companies ever to deal with!!! Parts supply or willingness to cooperate with workshops outside their national network is a ball-ache. Through official channels, even basic parts can take months to arrive and will cost a disgusting amount, so it's far cheaper and quicker to buy them from the UK. Hey it's Italian and that's the trade off for having something unique and exotic. There will be constant niggles and they require lots of tlc, but you if you're not prepared to put in the time or $'s, then don't even look at Italian bikes. When they work they are worship worthy, but they are fragile. Deep pockets, commitment and forgiveness are essential to owning one. Period
I'm keeping my Cagiva coz it suits my riding style perfectly, has the best of everything and can show up a lot of 'animals' on the road and circuits, love the power and style, and it's already pretty collectable (especially given the aesthetic abortion which replaced my model, and that mine seems to be the only one which hasn't been dropped), but the lack of care or support from factory or distributor has been utterly disgraceful...even under warranty nothing was ever covered and everything was too difficult for them.
I will NEVER buy another Cagiva for these reasons, but I'm hanging onto mine. :)
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