2a body on a RRC chassis

[Landy'd on Straddie]

I'm beginning to research the possibility of having a LWB Series 2a body with a coil sprung chassis. At the moment the pipe dream is to use a 1984 Range Rover Classic chassis and drive line, place a 2a body on top and try to retain a 2a look as much as possible.
I understand the wheel base is different and there my be body mounting issues.
I want the Landy to resemble an older LR, however, I want it to be a very capable 4WD.
Has any one come across this in Australia? I'm aware of one company in the states that make coil chassis for older LR's, however, it's not feasible.

I look forward to some in put.

Paul.

[isuzutoo-eh]

A table top might be easiest, using an LWB donor. Don't have to worry about the rear wheel arch lining up then or fuel tank filler placement etc.
But then by the time you fit the V8 or whatever under the bonnet, you may have to have the radiator forward flush with the mudguards, losing much of what distingishes a Series from a 110 or Defender.
Also, I believe the vehicle's identity is the chassis number, and all ADR's relevent to the chassis number's build date must be complied with, such as headlights in the guards not radiator panel, seatbelts, padded dash and so forth.
Cheers,
Mark

[LandyAndy]

Visit Discovery Automotives website.
Julian there dis just that,it was featured in a 4WD mag a long time ago.
Pretty sure he has a link to the project.
ENJOY
Andrew

[Slunnie]

This is a fascinating read from Outerlimits4x4. Make sure you also follow the links onto Pirate4x4 also as much of the info is in these threads also.

Outer Limits 4x4 Board :: View topic - MogRover construction (http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic161520.php)

[Hall]

Yep I`m the proud new owner of a rrc/s3/defender hybrid ute.I cheated and brought one already done.As posted the radiator does end up flush with the front.Mine has the Isuzu 3.6 diesel,wich is a good fit with a reasonable amount of room around it.
Cheers Hall

[Hall]

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/isuzu-landy-enthusiasts-section/90072-4bb1.html
Yep
Cheers Hall

[Landy'd on Straddie]

Thanks for the input I'm now gaining more momentum with my research and ideas. I do like the idea of having an isuzu engine transmission and gear box. However, I would like to keep original parts in the hybrid landy.

Paul.

[Hall]

In my new toy it`s a Isuzu motor and the original range rover gearbox and tranfer case with a adaptor plate to makeit all come together.
Cheers Hall

[jakeslouw]

I would like to bump this thread : I'm also doing some research on putting a 109" body on a RRC (100") chassis.

Some issues come to mind:

- lining up the wheel arches: since there is a fair amount of spare metal on a 109, I assume centering the body front-to-back and then trimming the wheel-arches to suite wouldn't be too much of an issue?
- mounting the body: I assume fabricating assorted mounting plates and outriggers would be necessary? I haven't actually compared a RRC chassis to a 109 chassis....
- front and rear cross-members: the RRC chassis doesn't really have them, I suppose I'll have to steal those off a Series chassis?
- front grill & bonnet: depending on how I position the bulkhead, I suppose I'm going to struggle to squeeze the 3.5 V8 into the available hole?

Does anybody have a chassis dimension diagram for the RRC? I have one for the Series 3, and I assume the series 2a is fairly close.

[isuzutoo-eh]

Jake,
Series rear crossmembers are available aftermarket, you are better off using one of those rather than cutting off what is probably an already rusty example, and if its not rusty, its too good a chassis to cut up :p
The front crossmember on a series chassis is a simple box section albeit with crank/pto hole, below the radiator, and would probably need moving if you put anything but a Rover 4 or 6 in it anyway.

[medic455]

I would like to bump this thread : I'm also doing some research on putting a 109" body on a RRC (100") chassis.

Some issues come to mind:

- lining up the wheel arches: since there is a fair amount of spare metal on a 109, I assume centering the body front-to-back and then trimming the wheel-arches to suite wouldn't be too much of an issue?
- mounting the body: I assume fabricating assorted mounting plates and outriggers would be necessary? I haven't actually compared a RRC chassis to a 109 chassis....
- front and rear cross-members: the RRC chassis doesn't really have them, I suppose I'll have to steal those off a Series chassis?
- front grill & bonnet: depending on how I position the bulkhead, I suppose I'm going to struggle to squeeze the 3.5 V8 into the available hole?

Does anybody have a chassis dimension diagram for the RRC? I have one for the Series 3, and I assume the series 2a is fairly close.

Try to get hold of a copy of the DVD "A 4X4 is Born" it deals with building a RR-100" Defender hybrid, I would think many of the issues that arise in this DVD would be the same for anyone trying to convert a S111 to RR chasis

Peter

[jakeslouw]

Mark: yes, you're probably right. In fact, a Deefer rear cross-member would probably be as good, if I am going to buy something?

Peter: yeah, will do, have had my eye on that for some time. Pity I missed the series on our satellite TV over here, I would have saved it on the DVR.

[medic455]

Peter: yeah, will do, have had my eye on that for some time. Pity I missed the series on our satellite TV over here, I would have saved it on the DVR.

It is downloadable on the net A 4x4 Is Born ? a 4x4 is born ? isoHunt ? the BitTorrent & P2P search engine (http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/93942149/a+4x4+is+born'tab=summary) at sites like that or if thats not an option, pm me your contact details and I should be able to come up with a "copy" of the one I have

Peter

[SLloyd]

I built the vehicle Hall now owns and i've also put a series one on a range rover chassis. Its not that hard as long as you can weld to a reasonable standard. I live in northern Sydney if your local and want to come and have a look at how i did the series one. I don't get on this forum very often so is you want any information on how i did it drop me a line. s.lloyd72@gmail.com

[Mick_Marsh]

I built the vehicle Hall now owns and i've also put a series one on a range rover chassis. Its not that hard as long as you can weld to a reasonable standard. I live in northern Sydney if your local and want to come and have a look at how i did the series one. I don't get on this forum very often so is you want any information on how i did it drop me a line. s.lloyd72@gmail.com
And you did such a good job with Hall's. I've seen in real life and I was impressed.

[faceman]

Hi, I have a 1970 S2A SWB on range rover coil/diff/LT95 tranny with a 4D56turbo in it. at present im finishing the engine bay. The chassis is original 88inch.
i had placed the coil suspension parts from a rotten rrc chassis to the 88series extending the wheelbase by putting the shock towers etc further in front and back by 2.5 inches. it now sits on a 92.8 inch wheelbase. i had to extend the front wings by 2 inches as extending the middle and rear compartment will entail more body workhttp://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk180/urfaceman/S2a/NEB237buildup002.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk180/urfaceman/S2a/IMG_0673.jpg
i hope this helps.
your rrc chassis to a 109 will be easier if you use a 109 pickup. a station wagon will also work of course either you extend the chassis or chop the rear section of the 109. 2-3 inch in wheel base can be accommodated by the stock panels with minor mods

[jakeslouw]

SLloyd: would love to drop in, can you sponsor the plane ticket? ;)

Faceman: "...or chop the rear section of the 109..." Yes, sort of a bob-tail? Chop between the rear wheel arch and the tail? Could look pretty cool.

Or else I could maybe just extend the RRC chassis with a rear subframe and a 110 rear cross-member to support the 109 tub?
It is after all only 9 inches. That's between the tip of the pinky and the tip of the thumb on John Eales' hand.......

I have Google Sketchup 7 now, and a couple of 109 3D models, so I'll do some trimming and then see what it looks like.