View Full Version : Bought a ticket to the policemans ball
LandyAndy
28th November 2009, 10:05 PM
Bloted my record today,almost 15 years with a clean licence.
I thought I was in a 70kph zone,but it was 60kph.
Booked for 72kph in a 60zone:mad::mad::mad::mad:
2 demerits and $150:mad::mad::mad::mad:
I have no issue at all with the cops,they were doing their job,and they were nice blokes too.
My beef is with Main Roads WA and the poor road signage that just blends in with the visual pollution of all the roadside advertising.
It was Albany Hwy Kenwick for you WA blokes.The limit varies between 60 and 70 and seems to change for no reason.
Andrew
feral
28th November 2009, 10:09 PM
In Victoria you can contest it.
Just write in and say yep, sorry, I am a very naughty boy and you just might get off.
Worth the shot.
Ean Austral
28th November 2009, 10:19 PM
Hey Andrew ,
Did the same thing last till we were in Perth driving thru wattleup heading to Rockingham. the limit is I think 70 then you come round the corner and down the hill and its 60, Motorbike cop waiting about 20 mtrs past sign with the gun 70 in 60 zone..Only difference, he was the reason cops get a bad name, just a rude bastard..
Oh well, lets hope it is another 15 odd years till the next ..
Cheers Ean
87County
28th November 2009, 10:26 PM
that is bad luck :(
too many speed change signages along the roads IMHO
and in NSW they have virtually admitted that there is a built-in leeway in penalty limits, eg you don't get booked in 60 unless you're doing at least 65
LandyAndy
28th November 2009, 10:33 PM
I didnt even try to slow down,I could see them sat there in their "Candy Car" Silver XR6 Turbo with all the bright orange Highway Patrol livery and lighting.
I honestly believed it was a 70 zone.
Andrew
alien
28th November 2009, 10:43 PM
They must have a big ball this year as the x-mas blitz started early over here.
One bloke works a section 10KM's long and has some one pulled up every time I pass him, usualy every 45mins or so.
So 5 cars an hour for 6 hours @$150 = $4500 :eek:
Our taxes at work;)
Cheers.
Captain_Rightfoot
28th November 2009, 10:53 PM
Well these days between staring at your speedo frantically scanning everywhere for speed signs lest you become a "bloody idiot" there is hardly any time left for actually driving the car... let alone doing the things you should actually be doing..
whitakerb
29th November 2009, 02:24 AM
Ah the dreaded area in Kenwick. I live about 5 mins from there and it is very badly sign posted. My sister got done there by Constable Kodak not so long ago on that stretch. Luckily, I havent been done yet.
In fact the only time I have ever been pulled over was in our comp Rangie.
Stopped me on Albany Hwy because the numberplate was missing. Just killed the engine as soon as their lights turned on, and coasted onto a side street (It had a loud exhaust and a dummy muffler). Knew I was in the green as soon as they said "Wow. What a beast!"
2 points isn't too bad though, I've seen people get caught doing a lot more through that area.
Ben
richard4u2
29th November 2009, 10:35 AM
my gps c220 when it had the 2007 map on it , it had a function that would let you know when you were more the 4 k's over the limit and since they put the 2008 map on it that function aint on it and its a bugger keeping an eye on all the different speed changes :mad:
Captain_Rightfoot
29th November 2009, 10:38 AM
my gps c220 when it had the 2007 map on it , it had a function that would let you know when you were more the 4 k's over the limit and since they put the 2008 map on it that function aint on it and its a bugger keeping an eye on all the different speed changes :mad:
I bought the latest maps for my Garmin and when I was in MEL recently I was surprised at how accurate the speed limit information was on it. Within a few metres of a change it had it reflected and I didn't see anywhere other than roadworks were it was wrong. I think if you are going to rely on it you'd need to get the update frequently map option.
Hoodoo Brown
29th November 2009, 10:54 AM
Its not a ball at all..............................its a raffle.
MickS
29th November 2009, 11:10 AM
Try this or something similar mate. If anything, it will buy you some time to pay. Please note, this does not constitute legal advice in any way, shape or form, nor does it purport to. Just something that has worked in the past.....
INFRINGEMENT NOTICE NUMBER ########## ISSUED TO (NAME/LICENCE NUMBER) ON THE (DATE) FOR THE OFFENCE OF (OFFENCE).
To whom it may concern,
I refer to the abovementioned infringement notice, and would like to respectfully make representations in relation to same.
About (time) on the (date), I was driving motor vehicle registration number (rego #) in a (N/S/E/W) direction on the (name of road) in (name of suburb/town). At the time, I was aware that the posted speed limit was 70kph. There were signs to indicate this fact. At the time, my speed was (insert speed).
When at a point on (name of road) I observed a fully marked police highway patrol vehicle performing radar duties. It was at that point I was signaled to pull over and stop by the police officer. He informed me that he had detected my vehicle travelling at (speed reading) in a 60 kph zone. At no time did I observe any signs indicating the reduced speed limit. In fact, I believed I was still in the 70 kph zone. This fact is supported by the speed at which I was detected – 72 kph.
I am fully aware of the trauma that speeding has on our roads. I have an excellent driving history. It can be seen that my awareness of speed related issues is demonstrated by the fact I have not come under police notice for any traffic offences. As a motor vehicle driver with (insert years of experience) and a plant operator who holds tickets/licences to drive (insert plant type), I consider my manner of driving to be of a very high standard.
In my defence, I can only state that on this occasion, poor road signage caused me to be unaware of the speed limit on the road on which I was travelling. I have attached photographs to demonstrate same.
As such, given my excellent driving record, and perhaps also due to poor signage being a mitigating factor, I respectfully request that this matter be dealt with by way of a caution on this occasion.
Yours faithfully
richard4u2
29th November 2009, 06:31 PM
Its not a ball at all..............................its a raffle.
it is said, that in new zeland policeman dont have ball's the have raffles also ;)
d2dave
30th November 2009, 01:18 AM
In Victoria you can contest it.
Just write in and say yep, sorry, I am a very naughty boy and you just might get off.
Worth the shot.
No you can't. It is more than 10 kays over. This only works if it is 10k or less.
At least this one in WA is about $100 cheaper and one demerit point less than Vic.
Dave.
CraigE
30th November 2009, 01:23 AM
:lol2::lol2:[happycry][happycry]:tease::tease::wasntme:
Dmmos
30th November 2009, 10:59 AM
Bear in mind the plight of the P-plater; any speeding offense and you have your license suspended for 3 months.
Hoges
30th November 2009, 12:02 PM
I donated $110 to the Tasmanian economy in August...same issue...didn't know I had been tagged as a donor until I was back in Bris three weeks later. Was travelling to Richmond and turned off the Tamar "Hwy?" ...saw the 80kmh sign and slowed to below 80km well ahead of it. continued on my merry way. ticket said travelling at 78kmh in a 60 kmh zone :mad::mad::mad:.
I had a look at google street and traced the journey...sure enough the 60 zone sign was behind the bushes...of course it was...:rulez::bangin:
And another thing: contempt for speed zones in road construction areas is generated by the lazy/inane/insane? who leave the 40kmh signs there (normally 80-100km) even when work has ceased for the day and personal worker safety is not an issue... so people gaily travel through at 80-100kmh and ignore the signs...who can blalme them AND who gives THEM the statutory right to play with speed limits anyway...seems any Joe Blow can buy a speed sign and use it whenever/wherever
rant rant rant
cartm58
30th November 2009, 01:12 PM
WA has more change in speed limit on its roads and freeways than any other State l have ever driven in and they limits they choose to impose on some roads absolutely make no sense whatsoever.
Driving down Alexander drive into the the city you go through a myriad of 70, 60 zones yet it is all dual roads separated by a medium strip.
Changes for 90 to 80 to 90 to 100 on on the Tonkin and Roe Freeways make no sense and the argument you change to 80 before the intersection lights make no sense when you have yellow flashing lights warning of light changes anyway.
My view it's designed for traffic infringement notices not driver safety
BMKal
30th November 2009, 01:36 PM
Driving up from Perth to Kal yesterday - Mr Plod had a major roadblock set up at Carrabin roadhouse, mainly targeting trucks heading west. Judging by the number of white government cars in there, they must have had representatives from the Department of every bloody thing in attendance. checking the truckies for dodgy loads, shonky log books, bald tyres, boat people, invalid permits and communists under the bed.
They also had some new style (I assume) radar or other speed sensor out on the highway. Either it wasn't turned on (even though there appeared to be a copper checking it out) or it was a new type, as it didn't set my radar detector off.
Anyway - apart from that, an uneventful trip.
CraigE
30th November 2009, 03:36 PM
Driving up from Perth to Kal yesterday - Mr Plod had a major roadblock set up at Carrabin roadhouse, mainly targeting trucks heading west. Judging by the number of white government cars in there, they must have had representatives from the Department of every bloody thing in attendance. checking the truckies for dodgy loads, shonky log books, bald tyres, boat people, invalid permits and communists under the bed.
They also had some new style (I assume) radar or other speed sensor out on the highway. Either it wasn't turned on (even though there appeared to be a copper checking it out) or it was a new type, as it didn't set my radar detector off.
Anyway - apart from that, an uneventful trip.
Probblly the number plate recognition cameras that can scan multiple plates at a time and check ro rego, owners details, warrants etc in a flash. Looks a bit like a radar gun.
dobbo
30th November 2009, 03:48 PM
Bear in mind the plight of the P-plater; any speeding offense and you have your license suspended for 3 months.
Something I totally agree on. I've seen to many p plate drivers crashed to argue against it.
nice1guv
30th November 2009, 07:06 PM
I believe WA is now getting fixed speed cameras to work alongside of the red-light cameras.
If you speed through some intersections now, like people do when they see an orange light, voila you're caught speeding from behind. :o
There is one on Leach Hwy heading towards Fremantle at the intersection of North Lake Rd. :eek2:
BMKal
30th November 2009, 08:52 PM
Probblly the number plate recognition cameras that can scan multiple plates at a time and check ro rego, owners details, warrants etc in a flash. Looks a bit like a radar gun.
That could be it Craig. It looked a bit like a larger version of the white bodied fixed CCTV cameras we have in processing plants, mounted on a tripod only about 750mm off the ground. That'd explain why the radar detector never went off.
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