should i sell

[stig0000]

well, my very loved td5 fender is been very sort after, in the last week iv had 3 stragers ask me at random if id consider selling it, and the people that want to buy it are very seriose about buying,

iv had a look one car point and there is about 2-3 td5 110s on there,, and at least one of them i no is a dog of a car, as i have worked on and seen it, :wasntme:

so it terns out fenders are geting harder and harder to get, and so a very good td5 witch aparently mine is as the people who want to buy it have looked at others and sead mine is far the better one of the lot;);)

and the added fact that its owned buy a landrover nut:D and uesd but still looked after, and not buy some one who just bort the car cos they had to,

if i did sell the fender id get a good d2a hse, witch means il be going down in the world:D:wasntme:
prity much all my mates dont want me to sell it, as it is way to good and to uniuqe to sell on;),

so what you think, sell or stay:cool:

[D-Fender]

stay!!!

[dobbo]

kcattatraeh a noR evig ot gniog ruoy reterpretni na yub dna ti lles d'I uoy erew I fI

[dullbird]

lol

[discowhite]

for the amount of trouble youve had with the 110 ide sell it...but... no one here would buy it....so i guess you'll have to keep it

cheers phil

[stig0000]

i have had things go wrong with it, but others hav had alot more probs then me, most of them are lil things, the only real bigy i had was the engine ecu, ;)

[dobbo]

You imply that you are a Landy mechanic, therefore you'd most likely service the vehicle yourself. It maybe the best and cheapest used Defender in the district, but as soon as the mechanic starts conversing to me in text speak, alarms would go off in my head and I wouldn't buy the car.

Posting in the jargon in which you post gives the impression of a low aptitude, ask yourself the question, would you honestly buy a vehicle that had been serviced and driven buy a retarded chimpanzee? No I am not saying you are a retarded chimpanzee.

[p38arover]

Dobbo, stig0000 is an apprentice mechanic with an LR dealer.

If you'd followed stig's posts over the past year or so you'd have realised that he's not the greatest at spelling but he is a keen LR owner (and comes from a family of LR aficionados). His family own/have owned far more Landies (and a greater range thereof) than you or I combined ever will.

[p38arover]

kcattatraeh a noR evig ot gniog ruoy reterpretni na yub dna ti lles d'I uoy erew I fI

Dobbo, I've read many of stig's posts and I've rarely (if ever) made a correction. Why, when I do it to others?

Because I never correct those who are chronically bad spellers (and stig is not alone on this forum, I can assure you). Generally, I correct where the speller uses a word which is patently wrong and allows the reader to misinterpret what was said.

A classic case of this is when Clean32 implied a mastectomy was a trivial procedure (which, of course, it is not) - when he apparently meant mammogram.

I also correct when we can have a little fun with (not at) the writer. I also make many corrections "behind the scenes" without bringing it to anyone's attention, often to improve the chances of a search working. Of course, I'll have a dig at those whom I know can spell very well but make typos that can be amusing, e.g. Lotz-A-Landies, Numpty's Missus, etc.

As I have written a number of times, I can spell but I cannot weld (insert many other skills here). Most others on here have skills that I can only ever dream of acquiring or that I can but stand back and admire. Those with these skills could easily make fun of me over my lack of ability.

[big guy]

Guess Dobbo is not going to buy it than.

A good defender will make good money- Simple as that.

Spelling is not everyones strength and can be annoying but to give a guy a serving is not fair.
There are far more serious things to worry about.

Hope you find what you are looking for Stig.

[dobbo]

Dobbo, I've read many of stig's posts and I've rarely (if ever) made a correction. Why, when I do it to others?

Because I never correct those who are chronically bad spellers (and stig is not alone on this forum, I can assure you). Generally, I correct where the speller uses a word which is patently wrong and allows the reader to misinterpret what was said.

A classic case of this is when Clean32 implied a mastectomy was a trivial procedure (which, of course, it is not) - when he apparently meant mammogram.

I also correct when we can have a little fun with (not at) the writer. I also make many corrections "behind the scenes" without bringing it to anyone's attention, often to improve the chances of a search working. Of course, I'll have a dig at those whom I know can spell very well but make typos that can be amusing, e.g. Lotz-A-Landies, Numpty's Missus, etc.

As I have written a number of times, I can spell but I cannot weld (insert many other skills here). Most others on here have skills that I can only ever dream of acquiring or that I can but stand back and admire. Those with these skills could easily make fun of me over my lack of ability.


It's started someone get Ron a coffee, statim


Guess Dobbo is not going to buy it than.

A good defender will make good money- Simple as that.

Spelling is not everyones strength and can be annoying but to give a guy a serving is not fair.
There are far more serious things to worry about.

Hope you find what you are looking for Stig.

I wasn't giving anyone a serve, just offering helpful and constructive criticism

[BigJon]

I wasn't giving anyone a serve, just offering helpful and constructive criticism

You don't really believe that do you?

[dobbo]

You don't really believe that do you?


Yes BigJon I do, ask yourself the question would you buy a car from Ali G? It might be a bargain, but the windscreen sticker with Ali on the drivers side and me bieatch on the pass side would be a bit of a put off.

Laws have changed over time but deep down people are still discriminative, especially when it comes to handing over their hard earned coin. If your buying a 2nd hand or modified car you have a level of trust in the person who has modded or repaired the car, and subsequently their work, if they are willing to cut corners to save time in something as simple as a post what other corners have been cut to save time whilst repairing or modifying the vehicle?

[discowhite]

i agree with dobbo, i dont know the stig from a bar of soap but as stated he comes across as a few kangaroo's loose in the top paddock, no offence stiggy. that being said he may well be on top of things mechanically, BUT i still would not buy his 110 on the grounds of the issues that have been raised on here and the mannar in which his posts are written/worded.

cheers phil

spell check away ronie:p

[mike_beecham]

Hi Guys,
Just read over Stiggs post (it seemed to get hijaked by matters relating to the English language...?)
So.....

Vehicle:
2006 TD5 Fender
94,500kms

Issues:
Leaking hub seal (still leaking....)
Handbrake cable (refused to be done under wnty)
Front Diff (done under wnty)

Use wise:
Heavy towing during the hay season
Off road (touring, mud etc).
Daily driver (10kms a day)

I love the TD5 motor for sure. Have a mate with an 07 Puma he has had all sorts of electrical dramas. Not sure l want to buy into that...?

Is having a TD5 with more than 100,000kms on it a liability waiting to happen?

Service:
I service it every 10,00kms myself (oil, air etc).
Have a it done 'properly' every 20,000kms.



Is it worth upgrading to Puma in the new year??


Thoughts???


Thanks,

Mike

[Hendrik]

I think you guys are really missing the point here, he doesn't have to sell his defender on here. He has had strangers come up to him asking him whether it is for sale...now what does that tell you? It means that nothing he posted on here matters, he still has people interested. And seriously dobbo, lay off, you are always having a go at him and it is seriously getting old. Stig is a good bloke who has helped me with my landy countless times, like Ron said, we all have different skills.

[87County]

Hi Guys,
Just read over Stiggs post (it seemed to get hijaked by matters relating to the English language...?)
So.....

Vehicle:
2006 TD5 Fender
94,500kms

Issues:
Leaking hub seal (still leaking....)
Handbrake cable (refused to be done under wnty)
Front Diff (done under wnty)

Use wise:
Heavy towing during the hay season
Off road (touring, mud etc).
Daily driver (10kms a day)

I love the TD5 motor for sure. Have a mate with an 07 Puma he has had all sorts of electrical dramas. Not sure l want to buy into that...?

Is having a TD5 with more than 100,000kms on it a liability waiting to happen?

Service:
I service it every 10,00kms myself (oil, air etc).
Have a it done 'properly' every 20,000kms.



Is it worth upgrading to Puma in the new year??


Thoughts???


Thanks,

Mike

.... it may depend more on your tax accountant's views than anything else,

IMHE, owners with TD5s love them once the known problems are sorted, and I wouldn't think there is any specific reason to doubt their longevity if properly treated and serviced,

(I've never had a TD5 but it is on the cards that I would acquire one in the future),

BTW have you read Bundalene's views on the engine in http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-tutorials/88257-bundalenes-daughters-130-repair-job-12.html#post1135711? ?

[mike_beecham]

Yeah. Fair enough. Things like ABS sensors etc worry me...??
They are not cheap!!

Mike

[87County]

Yeah. Fair enough. Things like ABS sensors etc worry me...??
They are not cheap!!

Mike

this is often said about parts, but again, how often do we end up replacing them.... it certainly wouldn't be every year (in normal service)

I've had my D1 with ABS for 4 years now and I've not had that kind of problem arise yet, and if it does I regards the cost as being spread over the timeframe that the part lasts

part of the cost of motoring ;)

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I also correct when we can have a little fun with (not at) the writer. I also make many corrections "behind the scenes" without bringing it to anyone's attention, often to improve the chances of a search working. Of course, I'll have a dig at those whom I know can spell very well but make typos that can be amusing, e.g. Lotz-A-Landies, Numpty's Missus, etc.

I thought the chipmonks one was very funny :D :D

[87County]

I thought the chipmonks one was very funny :D :D


yes I enjoyed that too :D...

I however had a vision of a person being tasked to fry chips at the monastery

[mike 90 RR]

well, my very loved td5 fender is been very sort after, in the last week i've had 3 strangers ask me at random if id consider selling it, and the people that want to buy it are very serious about buying,


so it turns out fenders are getting harder and harder to get, and so a very good td5 which apparently mine is, as the people who want to buy it have looked at others and said mine is by far the better one of the lot ;);)


so what you think, sell or stay:cool:

Mmmm ....... Looks as tho Stig0000 doesn't have to advertise ... as they are lining up with the "cash in hand"

Mike

[dullbird]

Hi Guys,
Just read over Stiggs post (it seemed to get hijaked by matters relating to the English language...?)
So.....

Vehicle:
2006 TD5 Fender
94,500kms

Issues:
Leaking hub seal (still leaking....)
Handbrake cable (refused to be done under wnty)
Front Diff (done under wnty)

Use wise:
Heavy towing during the hay season
Off road (touring, mud etc).
Daily driver (10kms a day)

I love the TD5 motor for sure.
Have a mate with an 07 Puma he has had all sorts of electrical dramas. Not sure l want to buy into that...?

Is having a TD5 with more than 100,000kms on it a liability waiting to happen?

Service:
I service it every 10,00kms myself (oil, air etc).
Have a it done 'properly' every 20,000kms.



Is it worth upgrading to Puma in the new year??


Thoughts???


Thanks,

Mike

I would be interested to know what electrical dramas.......I have not heard of a single person with electrical issues yet...can you PM me and let me know what so we don't hijack this thread

[BigJon]

would you honestly buy a vehicle that had been serviced and driven buy a retarded chimpanzee? No I am not saying you are a retarded chimpanzee.

Dobbo, how can you say in all honesty that you are not having a go?

Your last line is tantamount to going up to someone and saying "with all due respect", then insulting them.

I agree that Stig has some spelling / typing issues. I also thought that your first post was amusing. I feel that the subsequent post was derogatory and uncalled for.

Just my opinion.

[dobbo]

Dobbo, how can you say in all honesty that you are not having a go?

Your last line is tantamount to going up to someone and saying "with all due respect", then insulting them.

I agree that Stig has some spelling / typing issues. I also thought that your first post was amusing. I feel that the subsequent post was derogatory and uncalled for.

Just my opinion.


You don't really believe that do you?

By stating the truthful fact, I was not having a go. Those that have been blessed by being around my physical presence, know the difference when I am having a go, as opposed to having a friendly dig or offering some friendly constructive critisism.

See Baz's standard response about opinions


I would still love to know how 2 turbo's can power 5 cylinders?

[dullbird]

Volvo Introduce New Single-Turbo & Twin-Turbo Five-Cylinder Diesel Engines - Photos (http://www.worldcarfans.com/109021717123/volvo-introduce-new-single-turbo-twin-turbo-five-cylinder-diesel-engines/lowphotos#4)

[dobbo]

Volvo Introduce New Single-Turbo & Twin-Turbo Five-Cylinder Diesel Engines - Photos (http://www.worldcarfans.com/109021717123/volvo-introduce-new-single-turbo-twin-turbo-five-cylinder-diesel-engines/lowphotos#4)




Is that a twin parallel setup? or staged?


Guys please correct me if I am wrong.
twins work in parallel each turbine winding up an equal amount of cylinders and in this day and age of VNT turbines are outdated, basically used for **** value in 1980's supercars like F40, Skyline GTR and Supra's. They apparently offered less turbo lag due to being so small. They are usually replumbed to a single turbo setup to get serious performance. Think Olsen twins, they're apparently identical, but both perform the same roll which is pretty much nothing but occassionally snort something through a smallish hose.

http://www.gossipcenter.com/files//celeb-gossip/images/photos/chanel-paris-olsen-twins.jpg

you decide which one he was going to build (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/86718-t-td5-twin-turbo-td5.html)



staged, sequential or compound setups use different sized turbo's with one feeding the other feeding the engine. Like the Volvo in your google search or Bush65's setup, this type of two turbine setup, has enough torque to pull off a pud, permanently. Not just for the pleasure of it. Calling it a twin???? Well you decide.

http://iwatchfilm.com/content/default/english/images/movies/40607_3.jpg

[dullbird]

The performance and driveability requirements in the high-performance D5-engine have been solved with twin turbochargers of different sizes that operate in sequence to provide added power within a broader rev range. The result is alert response and rapid acceleration at all speeds, with very smooth power delivery between the turbo ranges.

[dobbo]

The performance and driveability requirements in the high-performance D5-engine have been solved with twin turbochargers of different sizes that operate in sequence to provide added power within a broader rev range. The result is alert response and rapid acceleration at all speeds, with very smooth power delivery between the turbo ranges.


I prove my point.

Danny talks the talk and Arnie does the work.

Now read the other thread.

[dullbird]

I dont have to read another thread I was merely answering you query in this one...if it doesn't answer it then you haven't expressed your self clearly enough.

this is all you wrote:


I would still love to know how 2 turbo's can power 5 cylinders?

which to me and the way I read it suggest you didn't believe that such technology was either here or possible.. hence my reply

[dobbo]

I dont have to read another thread I was merely answering you query in this one...if it doesn't answer it then you haven't expressed your self clearly enough.

this is all you wrote:



which to me and the way I read it suggest you didn't believe that such technology was either here or possible.. hence my reply


but only the 2nd turbo is powering the 5 cylinders, the 1st turbo one only powers the turbine on the 2nd turbo.

Like I said Danny talks Arnie into doing all the work

[dullbird]

but only the 2nd turbo is powering the 5 cylinders, the 1st turbo one only powers the turbine on the 2nd turbo.

Like I said Danny talks Arnie into doing all the work

SO??

you still asked "I would still like to know how two turbos can power 5 cylinders" I have still supplied you with a means of how this is so even if they dont truly both supply...

[stig0000]

it is just me,, or do most of my threads tern like this:D:D

eny way,

as some have sead yes i am a apprentice tec, and when it comes to working on my own car i treat it as a customer car, and make shour it is perfict and then some cos it is my car, and if i come to soming im not 100% on i will get help from my master tec, and i would buy both of his cars if i could,, and i can bet most of the other tecs on this site are like that, so saying that yes i would buy a car off a tec,

and when i do get probs with my car i put them on this site not to say my car is a lemion, but to help others if they get the same problem

[cewilson]

Personally I believe that your going to be down-grading - but I am a Defender driver! :)

However what do you personally prefer - a Disco or Defender? Because that's what matters at the end of the day.


As for the spelling etc that's been bantered here - type your post in Microsoft Word and spell check it before you copy it onto here - it may keep people off of your back! Silly as it is........



And for everyone that side-tracked the thread - I come over here to AULRO as it has brilliant information and is generally a very pleasant place to visit. I have met and now have some bloody great mates from this place. Threads like this belong at Overlander, not here......

[cewilson]

and when i do get probs with my car i put them on this site not to say my car is a lemion, but to help others if they get the same problem


Bloody hell, if your vehicle is a lemon - then my old girl is absolutely screwed :p

[p38arover]

As for the spelling etc that's been bantered here - type your post in Microsoft Word and spell check it before you copy it onto here - it may keep people off of your back! Silly as it is........



Stig, if you use Internet Exlporer, download and install ieSpell. If using Firefox, it has a spell check in-built.

[101RRS]

I'll put my head on the chopping block - I am sort of with Dobbo. I take the time, as I am sure many others do, to use a spell check, read and edit posts before posting but mistakes do occur - no one is perfect - I think we all accept that.

There are some posts where the author has not taken the time to ensure that they are readable - the end result is the point the author is trying to make is lost because of side issues.

A little care in putting up posts does not take all that much longer. I do not it is an education or spelling issue - it is a care issue.

Garry

[stig0000]

Stig, if you use Internet Exlporer, download and install ieSpell. If using Firefox, it has a spell check in-built.

HAHA your car isent screwd it just likes all the love you give it:D,,

thanks i uesd to have spell cheak but lost it when going to win7,, il get that ispell thingy then

[lardy]

HAHA your car isent screwd it just likes all the love you give it:D,,

thanks i uesd to have spell cheak but lost it when going to win7,, il get that ispell thingy then

ah Stig me ol mucker, it isn't a drama really the only benefit really from spell checker is that you will get to recognise words as they become more familiar, but i like your input on here so don't sweat it, i'll always read what anyone puts up on the forum.
You are not alone when it comes to gramatical errrors so just take it in your stride we all have things that we are not perfect at (apart from me i am perfect of course) regards Andy

[Captain_Rightfoot]

ah Stig me ol mucker, it isn't a drama really the only benefit really from spell checker is that you will get to recognise words as they become more familiar, but i like your input on here so don't sweat it, i'll always read what anyone puts up on the forum.
You are not alone when it comes to gramatical errrors so just take it in your stride we all have things that we are not perfect at (apart from me i am perfect of course) regards Andy

Yes, as Ron has said, we should celebrate the diversity this site brings. Not everyone is a spelling master but this is a wonderful site full of knowledgeable people. Sometimes you have to work a little to get the message but there are gems in there!

Oh... Safari on the mac has built in spell checking too, and this has saved me many times (with the notable exception being the chimonks post). :)

[weeds]

Yes, as Ron has said, we should celebrate the diversity this site brings. Not everyone is a spelling master but this is a wonderful site full of knowledgeable people. Sometimes you have to work a little to get the message but there are gems in there!

Oh... Safari on the mac has built in spell checking too, and this has saved me many times (with the notable exception being the chimonks post). :)

i'll apple that.....

mate i'm right up there with poor spelling, don't sweat it this mob will get over it.....hang on no they won't as they are like a dog with a bone.....:angel:

[PAT303]

Stiggy,trouble is if you sell and then get the deefer bug back what do you do?,spend big bucks buying another Td5 or buy my Tdi so I can get a Puma. Pat

[p38arover]

A little care in putting up posts does not take all that much longer. I do not it is an education or spelling issue - it is a care issue.



The old Muphry's Law at work! :D

See Threepenny Planet: Muphry's Law (http://home.pacific.net.au/~bangsund/muphry.htm)

[101RRS]

The old Muphry's Law at work! :D

Exactly - but at least the post is readable and the point understood. No one is perfect and that is accepted - but at least lets try.

Garry

[DeeJay]

My pennysworth is that I found - when travelling for Mcculloch Chainsaws- that the measure of a mechanics ability rose at the same rate that his literacy fell.
Some of the best small engine mechanics in Vic had real trouble with a pen, so Stig, you must be pretty good in the workshop.
I think anyone judging - or simply broadcasting an opinion on someone -by thier literacy is not doing themselves a favour.

And Dobbo, thanks for posting up the Olsen twins. Maybe Ron can explain to me the roll they perform. I keep thinking food.

[big guy]

I'll put my head on the chopping block - I am sort of with Dobbo. I take the time, as I am sure many others do, to use a spell check, read and edit posts before posting but mistakes do occur - no one is perfect - I think we all accept that.

There are some posts where the author has not taken the time to ensure that they are readable - the end result is the point the author is trying to make is lost because of side issues.

A little care in putting up posts does not take all that much longer. I do not it is an education or spelling issue - it is a care issue.

Garry

Garry

Did you spell check that? Makes no sense mate!

If you do dare and build your self up by dissing someone, at least be good at it or butt out.

Lets let this guy and let this site do what it does best which is discuss Landy stuff.
No matter how fluent one is in english. Time to move on.:cool::cool::cool:

[dobbo]

My pennysworth is that I found - when travelling for Mcculloch Chainsaws- that the measure of a mechanics ability rose at the same rate that his literacy fell.
Some of the best small engine mechanics in Vic had real trouble with a pen, so Stig, you must be pretty good in the workshop.
I think anyone judging - or simply broadcasting an opinion on someone -by thier literacy is not doing themselves a favour.

And Dobbo, thanks for posting up the Olsen twins. Maybe Ron can explain to me the roll they perform. I keep thinking food.


There's that damned Irish bastard Murphey

[dobbo]

Garry

Did you spell check that? Makes no sense mate!

If you do dare and build your self up by dissing someone, at least be good at it or butt out.

Lets let this guy and let this site do what it does best which is discuss Landy stuff.
No matter how fluent one is in english. Time to move on.:cool::cool::cool:

Dissing is not a word in the English language. The closest is Dis

Dis, noun.
1. the Roman god of the lower world, identified with the Greek god Pluto.
2. the lower world; Hades.

[big guy]

Still haven't moved on have you?

Now its official, you are a tool.

Dissing is a internet term, meaning disrespectful.

Take a deep breath and forget about it.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Dissing is not a word in the English language. The closest is Dis

Dis, noun.
1. the Roman god of the lower world, identified with the Greek god Pluto.
2. the lower world; Hades.

Hmmm.... I got this from the computer dictionary ...

dis |dis| informal
verb (also diss) ( dissed, dissing) [ trans. ]
act or speak in a disrespectful way toward : he was expelled for dissing the gym teacher.
noun
disrespectful talk : the airwaves bristle with the sexual dis of shock jocks.
ORIGIN 1980s: abbreviation of disrespect .
dis-
prefix
1 expressing negation : dislike | disquiet.
2 denoting reversal or absence of an action or state : dishonor | disintegrate.
• denoting separation : discharge | disengage
• denoting expulsion : disbar | disinherit.
3 denoting removal of the thing specified : disbud | dismember.
4 expressing completeness or intensification of an unpleasant or unattractive action : discombobulate | disgruntled.
ORIGIN from Latin, sometimes via Old French des-.

[dullbird]

OK FELLA'S

THAT IS ENOUGH...........

THIS IS NOW A MOD WARNING!

PLEASE LETS NOT GET PERSONAL AND GET THIS THREAD BACK ON TRACK.
Any further posts that I deem to be inflammatory or irrelevant to the thread will be dealt with accordingly

[Shamo]

Personally, i think that while you're young you should keep the fender because you can stand the uncomfort... and not whinge about your bad back hehe... You can buy a D2a when your back hurts too much, or you just become poor like me :)

Plus, we still need to do our 4WD action shoot, gunmetal grey twins, fender vs. disco, or are you afraid that mine will show yours up? :angel::D:wasntme:
Also, i agree with deejay, stig's skill's are good and he is a top bloke and i don't see why everyone is getting into such rigamarole about this.

Shamo

[Rosco]

OK FELLA'S

THAT IS ENOUGH...........

THIS IS NOW A MOD WARNING!

PLEASE LETS NOT GET PERSONAL AND GET THIS THREAD BACK ON TRACK.
Any further posts that I deem to be inflammatory or irrelevant to the thread will be dealt with accordingly

Agreed ... 'tis becoming tiresome in the extreme to have to wade through all this vexatious rubbish.

As one sage soul stated ... go to another site for venting of spleen, facetiousness and innuendo. I admit I applauded the first (only) response and have been somewhat dismayed to witness the subsequent disintegration into unless tripe and diatribe.

Totally unwarranted on a site of this calibre.

[incisor]

Personally, i think that while you're young you should keep the fender because you can stand the uncomfort... and not whinge about your bad back hehe...

having done 1800+ klms in both a discovery and a couple of different 110's in just over a day, i will stick with a 110 every time thanks... and i have that aged bad backed :P

[p38arover]

I agree. My '84 County had more comfortable seats than my 1995 Range Rover (despite what magazine writers say about Defender seats).

[dullbird]

me too I drove the disco to work the other day...I have been driving the defender daily 150k round trip not a lot but enough that my back was really aching after driving the disco....would pick the defender over the disco for comfy seats any day of the week

[PAT303]

I drive all types of vehicles every week and I'll take defender seats and the defender driving position over all others. Pat

[stig0000]

Personally, i think that while you're young you should keep the fender because you can stand the uncomfort... and not whinge about your bad back hehe... You can buy a D2a when your back hurts too much, or you just become poor like me :)

Plus, we still need to do our 4WD action shoot, gunmetal grey twins, fender vs. disco, or are you afraid that mine will show yours up? :angel::D:wasntme:
Also, i agree with deejay, stig's skill's are good and he is a top bloke and i don't see why everyone is getting into such rigamarole about this.

Shamo

haha wat ever man,, mine will so tame yours,,, oh no wate,, it did allready:D:D

[C0L0N3L]

Don't sell it! You will lose the 2 finger wave and head nod of Defender Respect.

[discowhite]

nup! your all wrong! stiggy, deffinatly buy a D2a HSE...one like mine! has really comfortably lether seats, full electronic controll, there also heated..probably not much use in QLD:eek: its an auto and has cruise controll, more cup holders than you can poke a stick at..and ive added 2 more! 7 seats and 2 sunroof's...oh and the arm rests are to die for!

cheers phil

[discowhite]

Don't sell it! You will lose the 2 finger wave and head nod of Defender Respect.

but you will gain free membership into the secret disco club. we dont wave, its a sign of immortality:twisted:

cheers phil

[Barra1]

Stig - it is great to get the warm and fuzzy feeling of owning something that other people want. However, remember if you sell the Defender it will no longer be yours. Think about that.;)

No longer will you have strangers approach you to buy your vehicle and no longer will you get that sense of satisfaction from owning the Defender.

Stig, your posts over a period of time show pride of ownership in your Defender. Stig, I don't believe you want to sell it.

Just be careful you don't make the mistake of getting caught up in the emotion of strangers approaching you to buy it etc. That is not a good enough reason to sell.

[Shamo]

haha wat ever man,, mine will so tame yours,,, oh no wate,, it did allready:D:D

Haha when did you tame me buddy? who couldnt even drive out of the flex holes on the beach hey... weak mate weak.

For all those who say a Defender is more comfortable, i think that for me, being about 6ft4" tall, the Disco is far more comfortable, especially the back seats... and also having ace is nice, something that the defender doesn't have, and i know is a reason why stig wanted to get into a disco. Our family has owned both defenders and discovery's and never have i heard that a defender is more comfortable than a defender, you might say the seats are better, but that probably comes down to age of the seats. I know that my old D1 had a stuffed seat, but i got it fixed up and it was fine, so really that's not something that you can use to compare a fender to a disco. I think that disco's are far more ergonomically comfortable than defender's, and a hell of alot of people that i know who own them and have been in them agree with me on this.

Shamo

[jimbo110]

Had a V8 110, didn't use it off road for a while, decided to go for a Disco for the comfort. BIG mistake! Put up with it for 9 months, lost $4,000 over that time, (110 lost $1,500 over 7 years!) got rid of the bloody thing and got the Defender. I know I won't make that same mistake again, Defender all the way................

[dullbird]

not me and I'm 6ft....but I never said I liked the driving position just the seats :D

[stig0000]

i have got to admit,, the fender seats ant that bad, there deffnetly not a vouge seat but iv driven road cars that are alot worse then the old defender seats;)

i think the best allround is the sport seats,,, love them, and the way the dash is set up ,, ima own one of them one day:angel:

but for now,, it stands at im going to keep the fender for a bit yet, you just cant bet that "defender ishness" about them ,,, all the people who own one will no what i mean:cool:

and the fact that the defender is the car people want if they like landorvers, if they dont own one they will tell you a rangie or disco is better,, but deep down they want a fender, they just wont tell you:cool::D even tojo drivers to i bet, thats why they bag land rovers so much is cos they dont have one :)

[Benny_IIA]

Haha when did you tame me buddy? who couldnt even drive out of the flex holes on the beach hey... weak mate weak.

For all those who say a Defender is more comfortable, i think that for me, being about 6ft4" tall, the Disco is far more comfortable, especially the back seats... and also having ace is nice, something that the defender doesn't have, and i know is a reason why stig wanted to get into a disco. Our family has owned both defenders and discovery's and never have i heard that a defender is more comfortable than a defender, you might say the seats are better, but that probably comes down to age of the seats. I know that my old D1 had a stuffed seat, but i got it fixed up and it was fine, so really that's not something that you can use to compare a fender to a disco. I think that disco's are far more ergonomically comfortable than defender's, and a hell of alot of people that i know who own them and have been in them agree with me on this.

Shamo



I have to a agree with you on overall sitting of a disco. I'm 189-190cm(17yrs old) so the lack of leg room in my Cab chassis is my only complaint about the defender. I have not put the A/c back in after the rebuild which has given me a bit more room.

ben.......

[Barra1]

but for now,, it stands at im going to keep the fender for a bit yet, you just cant bet that "defender ishness" about them ,,, all the people who own one will no what i mean:cool:


I don't know what Ron would make of "defender ishness" or for that matter what the hell does Dobbo make of it:o:o

But mate, for a bloke that loves Defender's and can't spell I reckon you have come up with the quote of 2009:eek::eek:

I reckon "defender ishness" just about sums it up for all of us Defender Ishness fans:D:D:D

Stig, as you well know and indeed said, only a Defender owner would understand;)

Glad to hear you are not selling;):D

[stig0000]

But mate, for a bloke that loves Defender's and can't spell I reckon you have come up with the quote of 2009:eek::eek:





haha,, i dident think id get that,, from the way this thread tern out ay, :D

[Benny_IIA]

haha,, i dident think id get that,, from the way this thread tern out ay, :D


it's so good I made it my signature:D

[stig0000]

it's so good I made it my signature:D

haha thats gold man:D:D,, its tru but,, u cant beat em ay

[samuelclarke]

Good choice mate. :thumbsup: It's true, you can't beat a Defender! :D

[abaddonxi]

I don't know what Ron would make of "defender ishness" or for that matter what the hell does Dobbo make of it:o:o

But mate, for a bloke that loves Defender's and can't spell I reckon you have come up with the quote of 2009:eek::eek:

I reckon "defender ishness" just about sums it up for all of us Defender Ishness fans:D:D:D

Stig, as you well know and indeed said, only a Defender owner would understand;)

Glad to hear you are not selling;):D
ness

Denied freshness

she needs fried dns

dense fish sender

Nah, not much to make out of that.:(