View Full Version : Which brakes to use?
LavisLane
14th December 2009, 01:07 PM
Remy posted a similar thread (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range-rover/91963-what-brakes-people-running.html)a little while back but still a little unsure as to the best options.
My discs are wearing out so will need to update soon - can i just do the brake pads in the meantime?
Pads are pretty much gone so need to change asap!
A landrover mechanic advises that they will need to bleed the brakes before installing new pads.
No. 3 is new to me. I've only changed brakes a few times on suburban cars but never bled the brakes. Is this really necessary? Does it help to get the correct braking pressure/compression?
Here's a site (http://www.roverparts.com.au/brake_pads___p38_range_rover?b=1)that sells brake pads - what's the winner here? Guessing the larger price is the best which is ok. I want something to handle solid breaking under 4WD conditions and occasional towing...
Recommendations?!?
Thanks in advance,
Dave
Slunnie
14th December 2009, 01:24 PM
Old rotors have a rippled surface on them which increases the run in time for the pads. The pads will wear into the rotor and take up the same shape before they're at their best. During the run in they are most prone to overheating and fade. If you change the rotors through the pads life you will have to go through the run in process again. I cant recall what I get, I think its 2 pads per rotor and if I run to 3 pads per rotor the rotor gets all crappy and it shakes the wheel. Anyway, whatever you do, if the pads hits metal you will stuff the rotor in no time.
I did hear a reason for bleeding, but I never do it. I think in practice its probably for them to bleed the fluid when the open the calipers so they don't overflow the resovouir.
Hoges
15th December 2009, 01:25 PM
No point squeezing a couple of thousand km out of old discs. Do the lot at once.
You can get brembo discs for RR for less than $90 each. Ventilated, smooth -they do the job very well. One set of pads about same (i.e. for 2wheels). Get some advice about which ones "squeal" and which don't.
Depending on how long it is since the fluid was changed it may be worth while bleeding ...may not be necessary: .
IMPORTANT: depress brake pedal about 25 times firmly ...don't rush it. This is to depressurise the system and expend residual pressure in the accumulator.
Check the fluid levels first: if at max, will need to let out about 100ml to account for inc. width of new front pads
Carefully open front caliper bleed screw and get willing partner to pump out fluid...about 100ml.
Change disc and expand caliper to accommodate new discs.
check fluid levels
replace rear discs /pads...
check levels /refill fluid as necessary.
You need a copy of RAVE and follow EXACTLY the long detailed process for a proper bleed...some of which requires the accumulator to be pressurised in order to move fluid through the system...
good luck
LavisLane
15th December 2009, 05:16 PM
Thanks Hoges, i've had the ABS pump replaced recently so don't think i'll need to bleed the brakes.
I'll start the research for Brembo discs and see what i can find. Any suggestions for Sydney suppliers anyone?
Will put some pics up when done...
Dave
clubagreenie
8th January 2010, 03:48 PM
Try Race Brakes in Wetherill Park
Unit 6 / 79 Newton Road
Wetherill Park NSW 2164
Phone: 02 9609 1101
clubagreenie
12th January 2010, 10:37 PM
Should note I work 5min from there so if you need stuff picked up and shipped free I can oblige through the various work freight accts.
slug_burner
12th January 2010, 11:04 PM
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