View Full Version : replacement Rear Bumper/Bar
Daniel
14th December 2009, 03:31 PM
I need to replace the original rear bumper with something with more clearance no lights.
Any suggestions?
LRDV8
14th December 2009, 03:42 PM
This is a bar that i have made (even sold a few to some of the forum guys), main section is 100x100 RHS with other angles and plates to make up the shape.
This one has lights but you could do the same thing without lights
Hendrik
14th December 2009, 05:04 PM
Adrian's rear bar is probably the best looking DIY bar I have seen, and I have done a fair bit of research on rear bars for D2's. 4x4intelligence also make a really good looking bar, but it is expensive. For more clearance, you could look at chopping the rear 1/4 panels and placing a bar there braced to the chassis.
This is mine, it is made from 1.6mm sheet, but boxed on the inside in several places which makes it light but also strong. This bar has had some very rough treatment, and somehow it just stands up to it...not bad considering I did no design work for it and built it in a day with some scrap laying around the shed.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/12/886.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/12/887.jpg
I will be replacing this bar soon, have plans drawn up on CAD and everything...its just a matter of finding the time to do it.
Daniel
14th December 2009, 06:34 PM
This is a bar that i have made (even sold a few to some of the forum guys), main section is 100x100 RHS with other angles and plates to make up the shape.
This one has lights but you could do the same thing without lights
Thanks for the reply - This looks good - are the lights that you refer to the small LED units - that's OK as well - I just didn't want the large original units there!
I was wanting to cut the rear side panels up a little to provide more clearance.
stevep84
14th December 2009, 06:35 PM
This is the one i bought off LRDV8 with alternate lights i put in.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9103/p1040278c.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/p1040278c.jpg/)
Cheers mate!
Tombie
18th December 2009, 11:07 AM
This was/is the first ever aftermarket bumper made for a D2 in Oz...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
When I get time the reverse spots will me flush fitted into the barwork.
It was based on the one I made for my D1..
http://gallery.mac.com/rovertech/100294/AZZ_Final_012/web.jpg'ver=12539405970001
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Hope this gives you some ideas...
Slunnie
18th December 2009, 11:25 AM
Here is mine. There have been a few who have modified this to their own specs.
Build pics:
www.slunnie.com - D2 Rear bar (http://www.slunnie.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=85)
CAD Dwg:
http://www.slunnie.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/D2rearbar.JPG
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1084.jpg
Redback
18th December 2009, 12:19 PM
Here is mine, it was a redesign of Slunnies bar, Discowhite and I built it.
http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/bazzar/rear_bar_094.sized.jpg
http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/bazzar/rear_bar_095.sized.jpg
Baz.
BMKal
18th December 2009, 03:05 PM
Thanks LRDV8, Tombie, Slunnie and Baz.
Think you might have given me something to tackle over the Christmas break.
Daniel
21st December 2009, 02:32 PM
Here is mine. There have been a few who have modified this to their own specs.
CAD Dwg:
http://www.slunnie.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/D2rearbar.JPG
Thanks Slunnie - what are you using for indicator lamps?
Any chance you could email me a better/clearer CAD file?
regards, Daniel
waz
21st December 2009, 04:20 PM
Where abouts are you? Are you anywhere near Toowoomba?
The workshop foreman at one of our local businesses is making a couple for a mate and me based on Slunnie's design. It's costing us $450 each made and powdercoated.
Waz
CJT
12th January 2010, 12:41 PM
Here is a design that I have been working on.
Thanks Slunnie for dimensions of the mounting points on youre website.
I am after a dual wheel carrier and therefore will be placing all lights in the rear bar as shown, also want to get the number plate on there out of the way as well as two tow points.
I am also looking at extending 75mm x 50mm RHS around the corners to the wheel arch and cutting the quater panels.
Any comments anyone has would be greatly appreciated.
Slunnie
12th January 2010, 03:20 PM
Thanks Slunnie - what are you using for indicator lamps?
Any chance you could email me a better/clearer CAD file?
regards, Daniel
That link is 140x988. Its pretty big already.:eek:
Shylock
7th January 2014, 02:53 PM
Latecomer to this thread with a few questions about HD rear bars.
- I saw, on one ebay supplier's site, a warning that their bars were not ADR approved. Is that a concern with custom HD bumpers generally? Implications?
- Anyone know what the insurance implications might be? Esp in terms of 3rd pty
liability. I imagine it would do a fair bit of damage...
- Anyone know of any currently knocking about for sale or prepared to knock one up?
- Or happy to pm me cad or other design files I could take to a local weld shop?
Mine is a D2 V8 2001 and I'm in Sydney. I am amazed to not find anything under $650 domestically considering they are $330 in the UK (or $440 inclusive of shipping!).
Thoughts welcome & appreciated.
D
bell1975
16th January 2014, 10:09 PM
Latecomer to this thread with a few questions about HD rear bars.
- I saw, on one ebay supplier's site, a warning that their bars were not ADR approved. Is that a concern with custom HD bumpers generally? Implications?
- Anyone know what the insurance implications might be? Esp in terms of 3rd pty
liability. I imagine it would do a fair bit of damage...
- Anyone know of any currently knocking about for sale or prepared to knock one up?
- Or happy to pm me cad or other design files I could take to a local weld shop?
Mine is a D2 V8 2001 and I'm in Sydney. I am amazed to not find anything under $650 domestically considering they are $330 in the UK (or $440 inclusive of shipping!).
Thoughts welcome & appreciated.
D
Check out APT Fabrications on the web. Theirs are around the $600-650 Mark IIRC and they also do one with a rear wheel holder.
They're Brisbane based. And have a presence on here too I believe.
Some lucky bugger just scored this one on eBay for $600. Pity I was spending my hard earned on steering boxes, radiators and intercooler...I'd have enjoyed tarting up the rear end of my Disco with that bar.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=261365901185&globalID=EBAY-AU
brougham
16th January 2014, 11:57 PM
Britpart do one for about $600 thru local suppliers ( here in Perth). I've just ordered one for my d2a as I busted my plastic one out bush.
twr7cx
17th January 2014, 01:17 PM
Britpart do one for about $600 thru local suppliers ( here in Perth). I've just ordered one for my d2a as I busted my plastic one out bush.
Graeme Cooper is the cheapest reseller that I have found - Land Rover Defender accessories from Graeme Cooper Automotive in Sydney (http://m.graemecooper.com.au/discovery_accesories.htm) - $566.40!
twr7cx
17th January 2014, 01:20 PM
Check out APT Fabrications on the web. Theirs are around the $600-650 Mark IIRC and they also do one with a rear wheel holder.
They're Brisbane based. And have a presence on here too I believe.
I assume you refer to this one:
APT Fabrication for Land Rover parts - Discovery 2 Rear Bumper (http://www.aptfabrications.com.au/discovery-2/product/115-discovery-2-rear-bumper)
That is not made by APT Fabrications. it's just the Britpart steel bar that they are reselling. See my post above, it's almost $100.00 cheaper from Graeme Coopers!
Some lucky bugger just scored this one on eBay for $600. Pity I was spending my hard earned on steering boxes, radiators and intercooler...I'd have enjoyed tarting up the rear end of my Disco with that bar.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=261365901185&globalID=EBAY-AU
Again, that is just the Britparts steel bar that has been modified with different taillights (LED units) and a swinging wheel and jerry can holder carriers. Personally the wheel carrier and jerry car holder would annoy me as means you have to move them out the way every time you want to open the rear door! What's wrong with the spare wheel being mounted on the rear door? The standard mount can handle a 33" tyre when flipped and LRA sell a mount for 35" tyres if you require them.
twr7cx
17th January 2014, 01:24 PM
- I saw, on one ebay supplier's site, a warning that their bars were not ADR approved. Is that a concern with custom HD bumpers generally? Implications?
It's not as big an issue as with front bars. Most accidents are front on - the bar being approved is important for the front as it can effect the crump zone and airbag deploying. Accidents at the rear of the vehicle are generally reversing and speed is quiet low (much lower on average than frontal accidents).
In saying that, I haven't specifically looked at what the ADR, NCOP or VSB have to say on it.
Mr.Bear
17th January 2014, 01:38 PM
I put one of the Graeme Cooper steel bumpers on about 18 months ago, and his price hasnt changed in that time.
They are very good, I was and still am dragging the arse end of my TD5 in tight departure angles and the plastic bumper really wasnt up to that. I finally reversed into a bollard and cracked it properly so renew with the steel one and havent looked back.
One thing I have noticed is the little corner bumperettes can ping off when the steel bumper drags - less flexi than the old plastic one I suppose and that poings them off into space much to the amusement of my Mitsubishi friends following. I'm working on a mod to the bumperettes so this doesnt happen - I hope.....
twr7cx
17th January 2014, 02:12 PM
One thing I have noticed is the little corner bumperettes can ping off when the steel bumper drags - less flexi than the old plastic one I suppose and that poings them off into space much to the amusement of my Mitsubishi friends following. I'm working on a mod to the bumperettes so this doesnt happen - I hope.....
I have lost my bumperettes twice with the standard plastic bumper when it has caught and flexed!
I have previously had one of the HD steel rear bars. I was very happy with the fit and quality. I reversed into a bollard and the bar took the impact without any damage (bollard was knocked out of the ground ripping out the dynabolts and the concrete - I imagine it wasn't in overly well to begin with).
I got rid of it though as the factory reverse sensors weren't compatible with it (being electro-magnetic the steel sets them off). The local car modification shop here told me the other day that they now have rubber bodied sensors which are compatible with the steel bars. I have since purchased a new rear bar and intend to get them to fit a reverse sensor kit.
On a recent trip I found that even with my 3" suspension lift and 33" tyres, my vehicle, both front and rear, contacted when a 2012 Defender 90 in standard trim did not. So hopefully the better angle of the HD rear bar will help somewhat. Might be time for 35" tyres soon too...
Mr.Bear
17th January 2014, 02:58 PM
On a recent trip I found that even with my 3" suspension lift and 33" tyres, my vehicle, both front and rear, contacted when a 2012 Defender 90 in standard trim did not. So hopefully the better angle of the HD rear bar will help somewhat. Might be time for 35" tyres soon too...
Defender 90 has a pretty awesome approach depature angle - possibly best LR for it, certainly much better than our DII's.... even lifted, I've long wanted a 90 partly for that reason, but I can only justify the one Landy and the Disco is so much better in all the creature comforts than a Short Defender
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