dead td5 what to replace with

[flyfish1]

my 130 has died, and as I now feel disapointed with their reliability , I dont really want to replace it with another td5. Although it has been an impressive motor I have also not skimped on services and replacement on any parts that seemed suss I have easily spend around $10k per year since 2001, in that time I have had the cooling system rebuilt once and replaced once, anything that needed doing was done no questions asked . So I might be cynical but I feel very disapointed with it, last week after a service which included the oil cooler being replaced and cost over $2k the motor **** itself on the way home.As my car has had many thousands spent on it, to get it to how I want it with air compressors and air tanks hot water showers etc I really cant junk it and plan to fix it, hiowever I am not really sure if I want to put another td5 in it as they might be to light weight to really be long lived, does anyone have a opinion on what to do.Any advice is appreciated.

[cewilson]

How many km's did you get out of that engine?

10k seems like a fair whack of money just for maintaining the engine? Who did the work on it for you?

[stig0000]

maby you just got one of them engines that just dident want to live:mad:,

[flyfish1]

Hi ,the motor had 270ks on it mostly country driving , as it was my shooting and fishing rig, I would clock up th ks so I spent a lot on services as well, as the last thing I wanted was to be let down in the middle of nowhere. I was also on my second gearbox and as I said anything needing replacing was replaced, I really was impressed with the whole car motor included, so it really ****ed me off. the mechanic is a good bloke and has taken over from the previous owner who is a mate , and my only interest was getting the job done not really price. on an average month I could have done 5k in hunting or fishing kilometers so services were more frequent than most.

[Blknight.aus]

yep, thats a monday motor.


dont worry even the 4bd1 has its share of them...

I here tell that the detroit (or GM) 3-53 will fit and everything will handle if you dont wind the wick up too much.

Ive done the initial research on a deutz aircooled turbo 4 and that fits with a good weight saving its not as torquey but its got a wider band and a touch more HP over stock BUT it also doesnt hit the same max RPMs.

Allegedly the 3.9suzi fits in as well.

[TonyC]

my 130 has died, and as I now feel disapointed with their reliability , I dont really want to replace it with another td5. Although it has been an impressive motor I have also not skimped on services and replacement on any parts that seemed suss I have easily spend around $10k per year since 2001, in that time I have had the cooling system rebuilt once and replaced once, anything that needed doing was done no questions asked . So I might be cynical but I feel very disapointed with it, last week after a service which included the oil cooler being replaced and cost over $2k the motor **** itself on the way home.As my car has had many thousands spent on it, to get it to how I want it with air compressors and air tanks hot water showers etc I really cant junk it and plan to fix it, hiowever I am not really sure if I want to put another td5 in it as they might be to light weight to really be long lived, does anyone have a opinion on what to do.Any advice is appreciated.

Hi FlyFish,

For starters I would be looking at the maintenance and how you are driving it. I know we all think of our selves as good drivers, and your mechanic may be a good bloke, but $80,000 in 8 years sounds like more than a Monday motor to me.

As for a swap, how long are you prepared to have the 130 off the road?
Replacing the TD5 will be the easiest, quickest and cheapest option.

300 Tdi or Rover V8 should be easy swaps.

Isuzu 4BD1T was a stranded fittment to the 6X6s and the non turbo was fitted to the 80s 110s, but I think you'll need to find a Land Rover Isuzu bell-housing, here is a good thread on this conversion,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/isuzu-landy-enthusiasts-section/48104-defender-4bd1t-conversion.html
also rijidij has a good write up of his conversion but it's to a four speed, have a look in the Isuzu section.

You could use a 4BD1T and an Isuzu box, I believe Dougal,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/dougal.html
Runs this in his Range Rover.

If you you do go ahead and change to a different motor it will take longer and cost more than to think, even if you allow for the added cost and time!
Once you have a plan talk to an engineer re rego before you lift a spanner.

All the best with it

Tony

[Slunnie]

I'm not sure what the go was with yours, but an engine conversion brings a host of problems itself. Sounds like you had a monday motor, but I'd replace it with another one. It'll be easy, quick and probably more reliable than a conversion.

[harlie]

I here tell that the detroit (or GM) 3-53 will fit and everything will handle if you dont wind the wick up too much.

Kidding right? The Detroit 53, 71, and 92 series are 2 strokes, even the US is banning their use in some states (other than on gas), Aus banned them fitted in new vehicles about '94. The 3-53 is not exactly a gutsy piece either, lets not mention spares, or weather it can be registered.

I agree with TonyC swapping to something obscure will be blow out both in cost and time.

[spudboy]

... last week after a service which included the oil cooler being replaced and cost over $2k the motor **** itself on the way home...

What happened? It could have been something the Mechanic forgot to do which caused it to lunch itself, if you were on the way back from having it serviced. Seem an unlikely coincidence that it'd just go. Doesn't seem fair to blame to TD5 if it is something like that.

If it was something like the oil pump bolt coming off, then this is a known problem with the early TD5's and should have been checked by your mechanic and re-loctite'd.

So, would be interested to hear how it met its end.

Sorry to hear that it's gone belly up.
David

[discowhite]

80 grand buys a pretty good fishing boat!:D

cheers phil

[bruiser69]

my 130 has died, and as I now feel disapointed with their reliability , I dont really want to replace it with another td5. Although it has been an impressive motor I have also not skimped on services and replacement on any parts that seemed suss I have easily spend around $10k per year since 2001, in that time I have had the cooling system rebuilt once and replaced once, anything that needed doing was done no questions asked . So I might be cynical but I feel very disapointed with it, last week after a service which included the oil cooler being replaced and cost over $2k the motor **** itself on the way home.As my car has had many thousands spent on it, to get it to how I want it with air compressors and air tanks hot water showers etc I really cant junk it and plan to fix it, hiowever I am not really sure if I want to put another td5 in it as they might be to light weight to really be long lived, does anyone have a opinion on what to do.Any advice is appreciated.

What exactly went wrong with the motor? Was it related to the service?
If so you would have a good case for compensation.
I had a radiator replaced by non LR mechanic & next day I was driving to the Coast & saw steam coming from bonnet. They hadn't fitted top hose clamp..it was down at the bottom & had never been tightened!
Fortunately I stopped engine before head was damaged. I refilled radiator & fitted hose clamp and drove it home. Boy did mechanic look sheepish when i confronted him. I got him to promise if there was any engine damage that he would pay for it in full. That was 80K ago so I guess no damage.
Cheers..B

[strangy]

Please tell us what happened to the motor. This might be important for you later.

Engine coversions are often bigger than you imagine, even with the "everything you need" kits, little ancilleries, like hoses etc. adding up.
I would go another TD5. Any other engine will have to be at least 2001 vintage or newer to be legal for starters. ( I assume its a 2001 truck?)

I guess you dont need to hear this,.... I dont think your mechanic has done you any favours by recommending or suggesting that the $ you have been outlaying in Maintenance is acceptable, I would have ditched the whole vehicle in the 2nd year before I spent 16k and onwards. It seems you have had an absolute pig of motor / vehicle and a mechanic who is happy to take your $ without any concern for you.

Based on what you have said, I would not have any confidence in that vehicle or the people maintaining it.

Maybe pull your accesories off and ditch the whole show and the mechanic for a ,............dare I say Toyota:wasntme:
Just joking.

cheers

[clean32]

forget about the TD5 its dead history.


but ask your self why the izusu bunch
1 doint sell there wagons often
2 fitt the isuzu to every other 110
3 fitt the isuzu to just about every thing else, S111 to P38s and discos.
4 thouse who bag the isuzu doint own one.


but then again, any swap will not be cheep. just drop in another td5 and do another 270 000 klms

[strangy]

forget about the TD5 its dead history.


Yes but no....There is something quite wrong here with the money been spent and IMO needs to be sorted.
$80k in 8 yrs on maintenance.........thats almost a brand new motor every year and a new vehicle in 5 or 6 if you traded it.
There are light aircraft operating for less than that.
You could do so much more with those $ than what has been and if this is associated with the maintenance rather than an unfortunate lemon.......the problems will continue regardles of transplant.

cheers

[Tombie]

Engine swaps for a TD5 Defender will be limited due to ADRs

Engine must comply with emmisions at time of manufacture OR newer.

So...

TDI - Out
Isuzu - Out


I agree with the others, you've been stitched up somewhere...

No way it should need that much spent if your not abusing it.

[Psimpson7]

4 thouse who bag the isuzu doint own one.



And those who bag TD5's generally also dont own one, know nothing about them, and in most cases probably haven't driven one either.

Agree with the posts about finding out what actually failed.

As Tombie has said legally the engine swap will have to be newer than the car, and also have all the emissions control stuff it was fitted with in the original car.

[whitakerb]

Maxion in Brazil are building the Tdi, except they have made it a 2.8 and bolted on a variable vane turbo. Any chance that these would pass ADR?


Ben

[TonyC]

Engine swaps for a TD5 Defender will be limited due to ADRs

Engine must comply with emmisions at time of manufacture OR newer.

So...

TDI - Out
Isuzu - Out


I agree with the others, you've been stitched up somewhere...

No way it should need that much spent if your not abusing it.


ADR 30 applied to vehicles up to Oct 2006.

My Isuzu County compiled to ADR 30, I'm not sure if it was 30/00 or 30/01
I assume the 300 Tdi compiles to ADR 30 but I can't find any thing on it

So a pre 06 Diesel LR should only need to meet ADR30/00 should it not?

I'm only guessing here, I've never had the need to find out for sure.

All that said and that I would love another Isuzu, the TD5 would seem the best bet.

Tony

[Blknight.aus]

Kidding right? The Detroit 53, 71, and 92 series are 2 strokes, even the US is banning their use in some states (other than on gas), Aus banned them fitted in new vehicles about '94. The 3-53 is not exactly a gutsy piece either, lets not mention spares, or weather it can be registered.

I agree with TonyC swapping to something obscure will be blow out both in cost and time.


dead serious...

a 53 with the ddec in it will pass current emmsions... a 3-53 is good for around 170ish hp depending on how its setup more than enough for a landy.

[justinc]

Leave the Td5 in, a very strong and efficient engine and you have been very unlucky with that one by the sounds of it:(

An engine manufactured post 2002, fitted with good cooling system protection like engine saver, inspected oil pump bolt and a Tombie2 chip and EGR bypass will easily last the distance if serviced properly.

I wouldn't hesitate to say easily 350,000+km IMHO.

JC

[Slunnie]

Leave the Td5 in, a very strong and efficient engine and you have been very unlucky with that one by the sounds of it:(

An engine manufactured post 2002, fitted with good cooling system protection like engine saver, inspected oil pump bolt and a Tombie2 chip and EGR bypass will easily last the distance if serviced properly.

I wouldn't hesitate to say easily 350,000+km IMHO.

JC
I thought I read that the build life is beyond that and you pretty much don't hear of worn out TD5's..... well, maybe except Cals??? :D

[Blknight.aus]

I read somewhere that the design life of the engine was supposed to be 500K Km.

I do know that the injectors are supposed to be good (provided they are looked after) for 1M Km.

[justinc]

I thought I read that the build life is beyond that and you pretty much don't hear of worn out TD5's..... well, maybe except Cals??? :D

:D:D:D That engine doesn't count, it BROKE before it had a chance to wear out:p Still saw 320K+ though at the hands of 'boost boy':eek:

I am going on the fact that the highest mileage one I have seen is at 350K, and is ATM going perfectly. Yes I fully expect that engine to see 500K with its present treatment in a D2.

JC

[flyfish1]

thanks for all the reply's , I feel it sounds like going down the td5 road will be the easiest, In fairness the $10 k per year included 3x air compressors 3x air tanks, hot water shower , aluminum checkerplating , drilling rig on trailer so I can sink a bore and have running water for a hot shower after a hard days fishing,canopy that converts to a two bedroom house, duel batteries ,roofracks , spotlights , cb, new mats each service , canvas seat covers 1 new gearbox 2 radiators and anything else that looks suspect to be changed, on each service. So in fairness the servicing was more frequent than most and if something extra was available I would get it , and they could in most cases supply.It really is a fantastic four wheel drive and my first choice for off road situations, and the motor worked a treat and in most cases I also changed the oil between services, and it seemed bulletproof I also had a rev counter fitted where the clock had been and it could really move compared to most cruisers and nissans especially going up hill, the car could easily hold speeds of 130+ks uphills . it wasnt babied , and I ran it in like I run in trucks and motobikes, the way you drive them, and at 270ks it used no oil and ran like a dream, infact the previous week I had a mate out shooting with me and he is a nissan owner and he was stunned at how well the td5 went, to the point that on the way home is commented that he never expected a landrover to be so powerfull. obviously I havnt told him why im driving the commodoor yet.

[Bigbird]

If it was me i wouldnt fit a TD5 back in there ,they have too many issues that i wouldnt feel comfortable with,i know some of you that have had great runs out of your TD5 but in my circle of friends up here in Cairns they are not a popular choice anymore,the oil in the wiring loom is a pain in the butt,also computer controled and electrics everywhere no thanks,if you want to fix it you need a nanocom and someone that knows TD5s to fix it,fuel presure regular is not much of a drama,but the plastic head dowels certainly is,if you want a reliable touring vehicle that you can easily fix and maintain yourself then fit the Isuzu 3.9 and never worry again,the Australian Army run this combo for a good reason robust reliable easy to fix,hey theyre a little noisy but its a landy and dont worry about emissions crap 1 Iszu 3.9 will out last 4 TD5s so if you look at it that way the Isuzu is more enviomently friendly due to less manufacturing...

[Slunnie]

You need better mechanics up there. :D

[spudboy]

You still haven't told us what went wrong to turn it into a dead engine :confused:

[Blknight.aus]

1 Iszu 3.9 will out last 4 TD5s so if you look at it that way the Isuzu is more enviomently friendly due to less manufacturing...


Care to put a couple of Xmas cartons on that?

[clean32]

Care to put a couple of Xmas cartons on that?

which part, Life span or environment?

[TonyC]

If it was me i wouldnt fit a TD5 back in there ,they have too many issues that i wouldnt feel comfortable with,i know some of you that have had great runs out of your TD5 but in my circle of friends up here in Cairns they are not a popular choice anymore,the oil in the wiring loom is a pain in the butt,also computer controled and electrics everywhere no thanks,if you want to fix it you need a nanocom and someone that knows TD5s to fix it,fuel presure regular is not much of a drama,but the plastic head dowels certainly is,if you want a reliable touring vehicle that you can easily fix and maintain yourself then fit the Isuzu 3.9 and never worry again,the Australian Army run this combo for a good reason robust reliable easy to fix,hey theyre a little noisy but its a landy and dont worry about emissions crap 1 Iszu 3.9 will out last 4 TD5s so if you look at it that way the Isuzu is more enviomently friendly due to less manufacturing...

When I replaced my Isuzu County (written off) I didn't want anything to do with a TD5 way to many problems and electronics to boot, I wanted a 130 so bought a 300Tdi which has been a problem child due to poor maintenance earlier in it's life. I read most of the motor/gearbox threads here, and I would now happily own a TD5, yes the oil in the loom is a pain, the manifold has a fix, they blow head gaskets IF YOU OVER HEAT THEM just like 300 Tdi's and as a one off you have to fix the oil pump bolt. They are smooth powerful fuel efficient and you can get huge power out of them if that's you thing.

I still miss my Isuzu and would love to fit one to the 130 with a six speed Isuzu box, but it would cost me WAY more than upgrading to a late model low K well maintained TD5 130

[Slunnie]

which part, Life span or environment?
Both. They're stinky things. You forgot to also include everything that it shook to pieces and broke and the whole concept of sheer driving pleasure.

[clean32]

Both. They're stinky things. You forgot to also include everything that it shook to pieces and broke and the whole concept of sheer driving pleasure.

ok i think you may have your wires crossed and are thinking of some thing else

[Slunnie]

ok i think you may have your wires crossed and are thinking of some thing else
No, I don't think so. I get into 4BD1's if I want emphysema, tinnitus and a massage.

[clean32]

No, I don't think so. I get into 4BD1's if I want emphysema, tinnitus and a massage.


Oh sorry, i thought we were talking about Landrovers not bushmasters

[isuzurover]

No, I don't think so. I get into 4BD1's if I want emphysema, tinnitus and a massage.

WHAT DID YOU SAY SLUNNIE??? I THINK YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP. CAN'T QUITE HEAR YOU... :D

Sounds like you are a bit soft for someone who lives in the country :p :D

I spent all last week in new cruisers and hiluxes. My 1987 county is far more comfortable (albeit a bit noisier) - I was very glad to get back into it!

You are very welcome to keep your TD5... I would consider putting one in the IIA if it was free. They are a nice little motor and they sound like a jet engine when chipped, but they are not in the same league as the 4BD1 in terms of reliability.

As for the original poster - a 4BD1T would be top of my list, however another Td5 is probably cheapest and easiest unless he plans on keeping the vehicle for a very long time.

[Slunnie]

WHAT DID YOU SAY SLUNNIE??? I THINK YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP. CAN'T QUITE HEAR YOU... :D

Sounds like you are a bit soft for someone who lives in the country :p :D

I spent all last week in new cruisers and hiluxes. My 1987 county is far more comfortable (albeit a bit noisier) - I was very glad to get back into it!

You are very welcome to keep your TD5... I would consider putting one in the IIA if it was free. They are a nice little motor and they sound like a jet engine when chipped, but they are not in the same league as the 4BD1 in terms of reliability.

As for the original poster - a 4BD1T would be top of my list, however another Td5 is probably cheapest and easiest unless he plans on keeping the vehicle for a very long time.
:lol2:


These Oil of Olay hands are getting blisters living out here! :mad:

[Blknight.aus]

which part, Life span or environment?

the first part, I'll even be nice about it and promise that of the 4bd1s I wont list a single military one...

and I get to pick the 4 td5's.

[feraldisco]

:lol2:


These Oil of Olay hands are getting blisters living out here! :mad:


there's two ways one could read that...

[rovercare]

:lol2:


These Oil of Olay hands are getting blisters living out here! :mad:


there's two ways one could read that...

Gets lonely out there:angel:

[rovercare]

the first part, I'll even be nice about it and promise that of the 4bd1s I wont list a single military one...

and I get to pick the 4 td5's.

If they're killing 4BD1's imagine how many TD5's the nuff nuffs could kill:eek:

[Davo]

BUT WHAT KILLED THIS PARTICULAR TD5?????



A guy's got to yell to be heard around here. :mad:

[feraldisco]

BUT WHAT KILLED THIS PARTICULAR TD5?????



A guy's got to yell to be heard around here. :mad:



I'm more interested in Slunnie's take on relationship opportunities with the opposite sex (and of the same species) in the Orange area... [bigwhistle]

[87County]

BUT WHAT KILLED THIS PARTICULAR TD5?????



A guy's got to yell to be heard around here. :mad:


Yep - myself and a few other potential purchasers of TD5s want to hear just what (if anything) actually went wrong - please :(

[Blknight.aus]

If they're killing 4BD1's imagine how many TD5's the nuff nuffs could kill:eek:

no, I dont want to... when a 4bd1 doesnt make four hours from the crate........




Yep - myself and a few other potential purchasers of TD5s want to hear just what (if anything) actually went wrong - please :(

I'll have a guess....

my 3 primary suspects are (in no particular order at this stage)

1. the oil cooler developed a leak and transfered all of the coolant OR the oil into the other. either seizing or over heating the engine and killing it. (this will be the 5th I have heard of dying this way and 1 witnessed but it was saved by prompt operator "WTF?")

2. A replaced hose was not perfectly routed and has rubbed through OR has not been correctly clamped and has blown out (witnessed 1, heard of 3 others) the motor has then overheated

3. The sneaky hose everyone forgets under the #4 exhaust port has been forgotten one too many times and has let go, the motor then overheats (witnessed 1 failure that was saved by operator attention, 1 that bulged but was caught before failure in a routine service and one that failed after shutdown and was caught during the operator walkaround)

[Davo]

I'm more interested in Slunnie's take on relationship opportunities with the opposite sex (and of the same species) in the Orange area...


I'm sure that's a good reason to start a new thread . . . with pictures, obviously. :wasntme:

[Slunnie]

there's two ways one could read that...


Gets lonely out there:angel:

Bastards! :lol2:

ok, maybe I should have said these Solvol hands! :eek2:

[clean32]

LOL isint this fun. it seems that the TD5 is his only real option as Tombie pointed out.

[Blknight.aus]

so you're a lonely masochist now?

[Davo]

Anyway . . .

. . . obviously another TD5 is not only the easiest to bolt in but as the legalities go much easier than anything else as well.

Converting an engine is something that looks so simple but can turn into a huge mess. And I wonder if the TD5 is necessarily that bad - you also hear stories about, say, a plastic radiator letting go in a Patrol and cooking the motor.

Personally, I think all modern cars are crap because they're so complicated. You may as well do all you can with what you've got - and it's very unlikely you'll have another TD5 die on you.

Now, what on earth is this about?
drilling rig on trailer so I can sink a bore

That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard - but impressive!

[Slunnie]

Anyway . . .

. . . obviously another TD5 is not only the easiest to bolt in but as the legalities go much easier than anything else as well.

Converting an engine is something that looks so simple but can turn into a huge mess. And I wonder if the TD5 is necessarily that bad - you also hear stories about, say, a plastic radiator letting go in a Patrol and cooking the motor.

Personally, I think all modern cars are crap because they're so complicated. You may as well do all you can with what you've got - and it's very unlikely you'll have another TD5 die on you.

Now, what on earth is this about?

That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard - but impressive!
Same, the drilling rigs around here for bores are on 24 ton trucks.

[jbell110]

flyfish1 at least you got 270ks out of yours I only got 146k out of my
2000 130. Went great while it was going, $$$ to fix when it went wrong..

I replaced mine with a rover 4.6 & auto & never looked back as far as
being reliable goes, is a little thirsty when pushed but I know I'll get
home. Put it on lpg now so its cheaper to run.

Jeff

[strangy]

Anyway . . .

That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard - but impressive!

Impressive indeed.

Show us some pics:rulez:

[scott oz]

:angel::angel::angel::angel: And stll we don't know what went wrong :angel::angel::angel:

[Bush65]

Same, the drilling rigs around here for bores are on 24 ton trucks.
Some places are suitable for putting a spear point down to get water - often not great depths. Behind most beaches/dunes for example.

I knew someone who used take one with him - I first saw him use it on Fraser Island many years ago.

[87County]

no, I dont want to... when a 4bd1 doesnt make four hours from the crate........





I'll have a guess....

my 3 primary suspects are (in no particular order at this stage)

1. the oil cooler developed a leak and transfered all of the coolant OR the oil into the other. either seizing or over heating the engine and killing it. (this will be the 5th I have heard of dying this way and 1 witnessed but it was saved by prompt operator "WTF?")

2. A replaced hose was not perfectly routed and has rubbed through OR has not been correctly clamped and has blown out (witnessed 1, heard of 3 others) the motor has then overheated

3. The sneaky hose everyone forgets under the #4 exhaust port has been forgotten one too many times and has let go, the motor then overheats (witnessed 1 failure that was saved by operator attention, 1 that bulged but was caught before failure in a routine service and one that failed after shutdown and was caught during the operator walkaround)


thanks for these pointers Dave....

that kind of info can be really valuable

I wonder if we'll ever find out what (if anything ;)) actually went wrong with flyfish's

[Davo]

Some places a suitable for put a spear point down to get water - often not great depths. Behind most beaches/dunes for example.


Ah, I get it. I never would have thought of that all on my own. Very clever! I want to build a trailer next year with some slide on-slide off modules. Looks like I'll need to add a drilling rig to that too!

Sooooo . . . I wonder what went wrong with that TD5? You know, that engine mentioned on page one here?

[rover-56]

I still miss my Isuzu and would love to fit one to the 130 with a six speed Isuzu box, but it would cost me WAY more than upgrading to a late model low K well maintained TD5 130

I still miss my Isuzu County too :-))
Cheers Tony,

Terry J

[clean32]

I still miss my Isuzu and would love to fit one to the 130 with a six speed Isuzu box, but it would cost me WAY more than upgrading to a late model low K well maintained TD5 130

I still miss my Isuzu County too :-))
Cheers Tony,

Terry J

well not realy 1 TD5 + 1 TD5 = 1 Isuzu LOL

[flyfish1]

wow 140k is pretty poor , mine was mostly country ks and it was perfect when it was going, I have taken the advice of some of the members and have opted for another td5 from a fairly low km late model disco so I should have my car back in a few weeks. I took the dog for a run up at moore river north of Perth this morning and I did not know how lucky I was before till I saw how uncapable compared to my 130 the navara stx is. there really is only one four wheel drive, I have had landys since 1994 and I would not dream of anothing else, even taking oil leaks medeocre ergonomics and enything else on the downside, when you need a real 4x4 its the defender every time.

[flyfish1]

the 4th conrod bearing was the problem, and no one can say why , the rest of the motor was like new, just unlucky I guess.

[TonyC]

the 4th conrod bearing was the problem, and no one can say why , the rest of the motor was like new, just unlucky I guess.

Is the Crank not salvageable?
Is a new crank more than a second hand motor?

Tony

[87County]

the 4th conrod bearing was the problem, and no one can say why , the rest of the motor was like new, just unlucky I guess.

thanks for letting us know flyfish.... I'm rather surprised that it wasn't repairable (with parts replacements)

[LandyAndy]

Try this mob in Perth.
If your head is good a new short motor for $3900.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/marketplace-alerts/94914-new-landrover-motors.html#post1141466
GOODLUCK
Andrew

[flyfish1]

Hi Tony. Mate I just let them do whatever they think was best and if the crank being changed on a motor with 270k was not the best option, I was fine with that, at this time of the year, I have been flat out with work related things both in the day to day running of a distribution and transport business as well as expansion plans for the new year, I live in Perth but from the time the motor stuffed up till christmas eve I had spent around two days a week travelling between Perth and Albany, so all decessions were made over the mobile phone and the easiest was the late model td5 , so I hope I dont regret it.