Why ?

[Dutchy65]

Why do we hang around Land Rovers when most who have troubles with their vehicle give up the ghost and go buy another brand?

I know why - they look great - they drive like a dream - they do almost anything - they are versatile - they attract people with like minds (i.e. intelligent people) - they are economical (well the TD5 is).

:)

[fraser130]

one of the attractions for me (Defender owner) is the way I'm happy to drill holes and bolt stuff in or on the defender anywhere I see fit.
Just couldn't do it to another car!

Fraser

[PAT303]

I have LR's because they don't break down. Pat

[D-Fender]

I love them 'cos the Army use them, and there is a reason they use them!

Land Rovers are built for a purpose, and serve that purpose tremendously without having to spend thousands of dollars on mods, as you do with all other brands.

[rovercare]

I have LR's because they don't break down. Pat

That must be what keeps land rover specialists in business:D

[Slunnie]

I just want one.... or 3. :D

[dobbo]

I love them 'cos the Army use them, and there is a reason they use them!

because they were the cheapest to tender? They also drive other branded vehicles, even Prado's.

[LandyAndy]

PASS THE DUTCHIE FROM MY LEFT HAND SIDE:D:D:D:D:D

Sorry
Nothing wrong with having PRIDE in your Landy.
Love mine.
Andrew

[djam1]

Because I have used them for 30 years and I dont believe the Jap Manufacturers advertising.
Oh and they always out perform the Jap cars off road

[djam1]

because they were the cheapest to tender? They also drive other branded vehicles, even Prado's.

I would presume that with a statement like this you had nothing to do with either JRA or the Perentie Selection Process
I had colleagues working for the Govt at that time and they really didnt have any competition.

[dobbo]

I would presume that with a statement like this you had nothing to do with either JRA or the Perentie Selection Process
I had colleagues working for the Govt at that time and they really didnt have any competition.

I drive the closest civi vehicle to a Perentie, an isuzu LT95 county. I know it's good. I also know it is nothing like a new Land Rover, it craps all over them on road, off road, touring and towing.

Saying a new 110 has anything to do with the Perentie selection process is like comparing an Ipod to a 1980's walkman.

IMHO if you want to own a true land rover, start building it cause you can't find it in the dealers anymore.

[djam1]

Saying a new 110 has anything to do with the Perentie selection process is like comparing an Ipod to a 1980's walkman.

IMHO if you want to own a true land rover, start building it cause you can't find it in the dealers anymore.

So true I personally dont think they were much chop after the late 80s either (ducks for cover)

[stig0000]

see i hate my car, but everything i do to it is done with care and full attention to detail, if i work on it i take time to make it perfect, and then check and check again that it is,

then stand back and love it, its mine, its unique,

you love to hate them;)

i bet you dont get that with pootrols

[isuzurover]

Why do we hang around Land Rovers when most who have troubles with their vehicle give up the ghost and go buy another brand?

I know why - they look great - they drive like a dream - they do almost anything - they are versatile - they attract people with like minds (i.e. intelligent people) - they are economical (well the TD5 is).

:)

Speak for yourself - mine doesn't break down (touch wood). But then I own one of the good (best) ones - same as dobbo et al.

[dobbo]

Speak for yourself - mine doesn't break down (touch wood). But then I own one of the good (best) ones - same as dobbo et al.


Did I breakdown the other day when I killed my alternator? Technically I had no electrics but I drove it home over 100 odd km's. Do that in an L322;)

[scrambler]

Did I breakdown the other day when I killed my alternator? Technically I had no electrics but I drove it home over 100 odd km's. Do that in an L322;)
Pussy. I've been crank-starting mine. Nothing good came out of Solihull after 1968 ...

:p

Surely we drive Land Rovers because we're a little nuts? I certainly speak for myself in that comment.

[Landy Smurf]

to be honest it just started because we have had them in our family since 1953

[JamesH]

I like the idea of old design that is fit for purpose. I like the idea of staying with a product you know while the rest of the herd head off pursuing the latest brands and models. While for me there is no trade off in comfort between the Defender and other 4wds, the idea of making do and not being coddled by the latest unnecessary gizmos appeals to me.

The reason why we wave to each other is that (unless LR appreciation is passed down through the family) you don't "end up" with a Landy, you make the choice to differentiate yourself and you are giving up the comfort of the herd. It's less true with the non Defender models but it still applies IMO.

It's my feeling that LR owners are not getting bagged as much as they did in past times but part of the bagging we receive or received is to do with our conspicuous rejection of what everybody else is doing. Choosing a Landrover has been seen to be giving the bird to the 4wd fraternity.

We like to think we are rational and logical for some reason but how often do you read here something like "These problems are driving me insane, I want to get rid of this machine of Satan... but I love it".

A more inflammatory observation would be that Landrover brand is also tied very tightly with Britain and thus anglo-western ideals and culture whereas other brands come from countries that not only do not share those ideals but in living memory went to war to destroy them.

[isuzurover]

Pussy. I've been crank-starting mine. Nothing good came out of Solihull after 1968 ...

:p

Surely we drive Land Rovers because we're a little nuts? I certainly speak for myself in that comment.

I'd like to see you crank-start my 4BD1 - or my 1968 IIA with 2.25D for that matter... And I would like to see you crank start your (petrol?) landie if you were in dobbo's situation (dead alt and completely flat battery)... :p :D

[olbod]

Biggles would have driven Landies.
Thats good enough for me.

I love my Disco.
It's a 92 3.5 efi 2 door and all up so far, it's cost me $22,000.
Bought it 5 years ago and would not part with it !!!
It's the only vehicle I own.

[JohnF]

We own our own house, no debt, and decided never to borrow again. Older Land Rovers are very cheap[ to purchase and fix/B], and so I like that. Parts are cheap, and so does not cost too much to keep it on the road.

Also do not do a real lot of offroading, except for our hundred meter long driveway after we do get lots of rain, but Land Rovers are very capable offroad, for the few occasions when we need to go offroading. I doubt that many vechiles left in standard form are as good offroad as the Land Rover. Of six Landrovers we have had 4 were Range Rovers, 1979-1990 which is the most comfortable 4WD of its vintage.

[B]If a Range Rover is good enough for Queen Elizabeth II, it is good enough for me.

Our first Range Rover was a 2 door and we decided we should get a 4 door, so traded up rather than fixing it.

Our second one was an 1984 4 door RR, but has a glass sunroof so that it gets hot when parked in the sun. It also has some rust in sills.

Our third one, a very good 1985, was rolled after a front tyre blowout [[I]parts for sale].

Our 4th one was an auto, prefer manual, and we dropped the timing chain on its 3.9 V8, and with petrol prices are now thinking diesel [in Bushfire Brigade. think Diesel would be safer if ever caught in a fire over-run. Also Diesel does not conk out in wet weather. Okay for you who are about to prove me wrong, I will add, unless its air intake is submersed underwater].

We were chasing a 94-95 soft dash RRC, but have not found one. Considering another RRC at the present time, though we may get a friend's Isuzu county, minus its motor/gearbox instead [His Motor gearbox headed to another project car].

Currently drive an 1982 3.9 Isuzu series 3. Lots of pot holes on road and hard leaf springs, so will not keep it forever.

If I ever find the winning lottery ticket [do not gamble so will never buy one] guess what car I would buy for myself? A 1994-1995 soft dash RRC. Though just maybe I could be convinced to buy a late diesel defender.

If it ever happened that I got a soft dash RRC, It would recieve a diesel engine that does not rely on electronic engine management, TDI 200, TDI 300, Isuzu 4DB1, etc.

[d2dave]

Our second one [is still for sale for $1000] was an 1984 4 door RR, but has a glass sunroof so that it gets hot when parked in the sun. It also has some rust in sills.

My Disco has two glass sunroofs. They might let a bit of heat in in summer but they stop the headlining from sagging.

Dave.

[Dutchy65]

My Disco has two glass sunroofs. They might let a bit of heat in in summer but they stop the headlining from sagging.

Dave.

My 2001TD5 roof lining is just starting to sag. Wish I had the sunroof option.

[AKW]

My 93 tdi 200 disco has no sunroof and NO sign of roof lining sag.
It had 76000km on it when i got it now has 256000km.
1 head gasket 1new set of injectors 3rd timing belt bugger all else.
Needs the gearbox rebuilding (bearings syncro on 2nd ).
Thought about a new one but i can work on this one myself.


Andrew

'93 200tdi disco
'65 88" s2a

[PAT303]

Did I breakdown the other day when I killed my alternator? Technically I had no electrics but I drove it home over 100 odd km's. Do that in an L322;)

Yeh,have a wheel bearing collapse in your county and I'll drive past in my L322,your vehicle can be stopped just as easy as mine,I'll just do it in style and comfort:cool:. Pat

[Disco_owner]

This is a true Story..

years ago i went on a Trip to Cape York and took my trustee 300tdi D1 as I find it extremely comfortable and have plenty of shoulder room , Unlike the defender:wasntme:

anyhow for the entire month I got bagged by Hilux mate and Pootrol mate about how Crap and unrealiable landrovers where..... bla bla bla .... on the way up in 38 deg* heat the A/C in my mate's hilux decided to give up the ghost and stopped working.my Nitsota mate constantly had nothin but trouble with his electrics.

I got seperated from them on the way down , on the same trip The Hilux has a Blown gear Box and rear Diff and my mate with ZD30 ended up with a Grenade inside his engine... booom ...on the anzac bridge , out of all the places ... I say no more...

[INter674]

lets face it they are cheap second-hand, and anyone with half a brain (and that rules out most motorists nowadays) can maintain them easily, and we hang on to them because they are not worth selling, and they are different to the mainstream toyota white goods. Sort of catch 22 really:)

[dobbo]

Yeh,have a wheel bearing collapse in your county and I'll drive past in my L322,your vehicle can be stopped just as easy as mine,I'll just do it in style and comfort:cool:. Pat



Style, implies class, not faux wood, you cannot buy it.

[PAT303]

Style, implies class, not faux wood, you cannot buy it.

Point taken,greasy pants aren't a style icon. Pat

[rovercare]

Style, implies class, not faux wood, you cannot buy it.

What happened to the rest of your reply Dobbo?:p

[rovercare]

Point taken,greasy pants aren't a style icon. Pat

Don't worry Pat, as much as I disagree with you here sometimes...........I'd love an L322:)

[PAT303]

Don't worry Pat, as much as I disagree with you here sometimes...........I'd love an L322:)

I enjoy our ''differences'' on here,it livens the place up.I'm a defender man through and through but RR's are just,how do you say it,they are a classic.One day I'm going to restore a seventies two door,they are may fav. Pat

[Hymie]

Biggles would have driven Landies.
Thats good enough for me.



Nar, Biggles would have driven an Aston Martin, Algy was the Landy Man!

[mufflerman]

Never owned or thought of being a lr man I sort of bought one by chance was looking for a run about ute for my business in the centre of 2nd hand cars at parra rd five dock, came across this bloody! D1, a 93 5sp man v8I of all things.

All the car dealers I knew were gonna find me a cheap little toyo/dato ute not a gas guzzling zero boot space gear crunching sad 12yr old lr with 2 previous owners & 160k,s.

It wouldn,t even start when I went back to look at it! they put petrol in it jumped the battery no go! I should of said good onya & left it, heck it didn't even go that good on the first drive.

I,d always wanted another 4wd & could justify the 8 grand by being able to drive along a beach or head into the bush & go camping with the missus & kids, 5 years & $15k later still enjoying it.
It's incredible capability off road the way it easily gets over difficult looking stuff & then gets stopped by a misplaced rock or rut just did a full arb locker install myself last week, I love playing with it then driving it to see if it's better.

They really do have character inside them as someone on here said, I just really enjoy this great example of british mechanical engineering & wizadry.

[400HPONGAS]

You bring back old memories djam1 , had the pleasure of spending a few days out in the Real Pilbara bush with a bloke called Jeff Stubbs of JRA fame , thrashing the crap out of his project perentie 6 x 6 (was a red extended Tray back 130 type wheelbase , triple maxidrive strengthened diff locked diffs, and about 50 jerry cans strapped int a special cradle to act as a permanent payload . The engine was the Isuzu 4 banger with a big snail on it . I Though that was impressive until he said that he'll take my Range rover and show me what they can do .(5 litre , maxidrives front and back diff locks). That guys "Rolls" landrover product for a living , boy could he drive !!! He put it on angles that scared the crap out of me !! Still , this way back in 1985 or 1986 .(It was all about JRA paying me back for fixing door locks on the 85 County , but thats another story !!!)

[Barefoot Dave]

I agree that being a Land Rover person indicates a certain personality that understands mechanical theory and is drawn to the design parameters of the 'Tractor for the road'. That is, a vehicle that is sufficient for most tasks when the operator has sufficiant knowledge of the vehicles capabilities and can 'drive around' it's deficiencies. Knowing when to lower pressures, choose an easier route, use a lower gear etc. And someone who knows and accepts that a LR is made by imperfect man and as such is imperfect, that mechanical things wear and require maintainance.
Being 'agricultural' in design (pre TD5) it is fairly easy to work on one with the occasional specialist tool.
Famous last words, but I get bored when there is nothing to do on the D2.:wasntme:

Oh, and I am personally very thankful that the Army chose the 110 for the job, with only minor variations to 'standard', I am still amazed at where we went in the RFSVs.
The HMMWV might have made a getter LRPV, though.
Cheers, Dave.