defender with tdv6

[bobbyflin]

is there such a defender with the tdv6 engine option or is there one coming out in the near future? as i dont like the sound of the current 300tdi

[isuzurover]

is there such a defender with the tdv6 engine option or is there one coming out in the near future? as i dont like the sound of the current 300tdi

You are slightly out of date... The 300Tdi was replaced by the TD5 in 1999, then by the 2.4CRD (puma/transit) engine a few years ago.

There is no TDV6 option (unfortunately).

[flagg]

If you search around there was a chap who did that conversion with many pics too :)

[JamesH]

And let me re-assure you, sound of a Tdi just started and about to pull out of the drive for a camping trip is a good enough sound for mortals.

I won't make any extravagant claims like it compares to a BSA Rocket 3/Triumph Trident getting a handful in 2nd or 3rd but it's up there with an early seventies two door Rangie with the 3.5 Buick block pulling a boat and trailer up a steep ramp.

[Disco44]

G'Day,
A customer of MR Automotive in Redcliffe Qld ordered one through Landrover special orders a couple of years ago.It was a six months wait time.
Dwayne at MR should be able to help if you asked.But I stress again it was a special order and I know not what the next defender will come with.
Cheers,
John ( disco 44 )

[disco2hse]

If you search around there was a chap who did that conversion with many pics too :)

Here's one. TDV6 in a Defender : Devon 4x4 Off Road Forums (http://www.devon4x4.com/forum/vehicle-prep/tdv6-in-a-defender/15/?PHPSESSID=78ced622757992c540a9d5ad570ffe8b)

[Psimpson7]

G'Day,
A customer of MR Automotive in Redcliffe Qld ordered one through Landrover special orders a couple of years ago.It was a six months wait time.


Really....! I dont believe you! One guy (BAS) in the UK is making one but LR havent to my knowledge.

[VladTepes]

Yeah I don't beleive it either... but then I've been wtong before. Twice.

(I sold a Rangie and I sold a Defender).

[isuzurover]

G'Day,
A customer of MR Automotive in Redcliffe Qld ordered one through Landrover special orders a couple of years ago.It was a six months wait time.
Dwayne at MR should be able to help if you asked.But I stress again it was a special order and I know not what the next defender will come with.
Cheers,
John ( disco 44 )

I would also have to add that I don't believe this.

[Rangier Rover]

I would also have to add that I don't believe this.

Just for proof, I asked a few dealers the same question. Answer was.... cant do:(

[300+]

JE engineering fit a supercharged 4.2. I realise that this isn't exactly what you asked for, but I feel it would be an acceptable compromise.

Cheers, Steve

[Bush65]

is there such a defender with the tdv6 engine option or is there one coming out in the near future? as i dont like the sound of the current 300tdi
The TDV6 is not offered as an option in Defenders. Only the 2.4 litre Ford Puma 4 cyl, diesel.

There will be a completely new Defender about 2012. To my knowledge the engine options have not been finalised, but there have been some reports/speculation in the press that the TDV6 may be an option, along with the engine currently used in the Freelander (which has more torque and power than the current Ford Puma).

As the new defender will be based on the Discovery platform, it should be easy for Land Rover to add the TDV6 to the engine options.

You are slightly out of date... The 300Tdi was replaced by the TD5 in 1999, then by the 2.4CRD (puma/transit) engine a few years ago.

There is no TDV6 option (unfortunately).
I'm guessing bobbyflin's current vehicle may have a 300Tdi and he doesn't like the sounds it is making - so casting around for vehicle options.

[Disco44]

Really....! I dont believe you! One guy (BAS) in the UK is making one but LR havent to my knowledge.
I was told that when I was at MR getting a service done.
So who's right?
John

[wayne]

Maybe some one who knows Dwayne could call him and confirm the rumour

[Psimpson7]

I was told that when I was at MR getting a service done.
So who's right?
John

Not you I'd wager!:)

[loanrangie]

Even the Saudi sheiks have to get their customised vehicles from a 3rd party so i dont belive LR would build a one off vehicle for a customer, for future design purposes yes but not for a special order.

[Scallops]

Why not ring Dwayne and ask him? He loves a chat.

mrautomotive - contact_us (http://mrautomotive.com.au/index.php?option=com_facileforms&Itemid=31)

But without wanting to start a war, the current Puma engine, derived from the Ford Transit is, IMHO, quite an excellent choice of engine for a vehicle such as the current Defender platform - as were the TDI and TD5 engines preceding it ;)

[Hendrik]

The TDV6 is not offered as an option in Defenders. Only the 2.4 litre Ford Puma 4 cyl, diesel.

There will be a completely new Defender about 2012. To my knowledge the engine options have not been finalised, but there have been some reports/speculation in the press that the TDV6 may be an option, along with the engine currently used in the Freelander (which has more torque and power than the current Ford Puma).

I've heard that it won't be called the Defender, but something else. Theres even claims that it will be scrapped all together, and that they will split Land Rover into two: Range Rover and Land Rover like in the old days. But those are all claims, will have to wait and see what happens I guess
Personally I think they should have released the TDV6 Defender in 2007 when the "new" defender was released.

[Bush65]

...
Personally I think they should have released the TDV6 Defender in 2007 when the "new" defender was released.
I can't disagree with that! Not that I disagree with your other comments, but I haven't sought/heard much in the last few months.

IMHO, an engine as complex as the TDV6 is not needed, just a class leading, inline, 4 cylinder, common rail diesel of about 3 litre. But it needs to be somewhat better and more reliable than the Ford Puma (sorry Scallops).

[isuzurover]

I can't disagree with that! Not that I disagree with your other comments, but I haven't sought/heard much in the last few months.

IMHO, an engine as complex as the TDV6 is not needed, just a class leading, inline, 4 cylinder, common rail diesel of about 3 litre. But it needs to be somewhat better and more reliable than the Ford Puma (sorry Scallops).

What are the reliability issues with the puma - I am out of touch - the only major issue I recall is the fuel tank breather problem?

Are the transit or ford ranger variants any better?

Come to that - does a ford ranger 3.0TDci bolt straight in instead of a puma????

[Disco44]

Not you I'd wager!:)

Yes it was me why would you think I'd post something that wasn't true.I've nothing to prove .Have you?
John

[series3]

Come to that - does a ford ranger 3.0TDci bolt straight in instead of a puma????

now there's a damned good question!

[clean32]

What are the reliability issues with the puma - I am out of touch - the only major issue I recall is the fuel tank breather problem?

Are the transit or ford ranger variants any better?

Come to that - does a ford ranger 3.0TDci bolt straight in instead of a puma????


done a few miles in a ranger apart from the bounce thay go dam well, very well infact. and that was an auto

[Disco44]

Why not ring Dwayne and ask him? He loves a chat.

mrautomotive - contact_us (http://mrautomotive.com.au/index.php?option=com_facileforms&Itemid=31)

But without wanting to start a war, the current Puma engine, derived from the Ford Transit is, IMHO, quite an excellent choice of engine for a vehicle such as the current Defender platform - as were the TDI and TD5 engines preceding it ;)

Further to mine re MR Automotive I contacted Dwayne and here is his answer.As you will see it never came off..but my post was put on this forum in good faith

Hi john, yes we were excited at the time about this prospect, BUT it never
happened !
The dealer salesman at the time told our customer that landrover were going
to do it but he
Was full of **** !
Cheers dwayne

John ( disco 44 )

[isuzurover]

The ranger has:
115kW @ 3200rpm
380Nm @ 1800rpm

However there is a chip available which will increase that to 132kW and 435Nm

The 2.4 in landie-spec has 90kW and 360Nm, but I can't find at what revs.

[dullbird]

think it might be 90kw@3500 and 360nm@ 2000rpm but I only found one article so dont shoot me if that is incorrect

[scarry]

think it might be 90kw@3500 and 360nm@ 2000rpm but I only found one article so dont shoot me if that is incorrect

We won't shoot you this time,you are correct...:o

Looking at the torque curve,it's very peaky......,as probably most smaller TD's are,which is why they suit auto's

It's actually in the LR Puma brochure you can get from the stealers.

[ramblingboy42]

isn't/wasn't the tdv6 a non landrover engine? I dont belive it will be available in landrovers livery again. therefore very doubtful to be in future defenders.
transits fly with the 2.4 engine.....are they same power in defenders?

[PAT303]

isn't/wasn't the tdv6 a non landrover engine? I dont belive it will be available in landrovers livery again. therefore very doubtful to be in future defenders.
transits fly with the 2.4 engine.....are they same power in defenders?

I'll bet you a carton it's in the next defender. Pat

[BigJon]

isn't/wasn't the tdv6 a non landrover engine? I dont belive it will be available in landrovers livery again. therefore very doubtful to be in future defenders.
transits fly with the 2.4 engine.....are they same power in defenders?


Joint venture engine. Ford, Renault, Pugeuot from memory.

[dullbird]

isn't/wasn't the tdv6 a non landrover engine? I dont belive it will be available in landrovers livery again. therefore very doubtful to be in future defenders.
transits fly with the 2.4 engine.....are they same power in defenders?

I believe land rover tweaked it and got more torque out of the engine...

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

Are the transit or ford ranger variants any better?

Come to that - does a ford ranger 3.0TDci bolt straight in instead of a puma????

the Ranger isn't a Puma. The Ranger is a Mazda Bravo and is the new version of the old WLT engine.