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Graeme
9th January 2010, 05:03 AM
After only the 2nd time of having to use a large nozzle, I'm ready to chuck the misfuelling device. Small droplets sprayed about the place whilst filling then fuel everywhere due to an air-lock. My only local outlet has only 1 bowser and it has a large nozzle for trucks.

I'm keen to find out if the device can be removed or if I have to fit another neck.

chuck
9th January 2010, 10:05 AM
Graeme

Sounds like you may have to swap with me.
D3 - lights that illuminate the road
softer ride
no misfuelling device
can fit 17" rims
can fit 2nd battery


I am not sure of your colour though!

Regards

Chuck

Graeme
9th January 2010, 10:51 AM
I am not sure of your colour though!
How much do I have to throw in to make the colour acceptable to you? I like it and don't think I should pay too much for you to take it.

Jesse B
9th January 2010, 12:34 PM
After only the 2nd time of having to use a large nozzle, I'm ready to chuck the misfuelling device.

Interesting! I know of a few more remote locations here in WA that may well only have large-nozzle diesel pumps. Hadn't thought of that - and nor had LRA, apparently. Will proceed somewhat nervously into the back of beyond until we have this somehow better sorted. :eek:

rmp
10th January 2010, 05:50 PM
It's doable, just don't go for max flow or if you do, back it off before it spurts. That'll still be quicker than a normal pump.

If it had occured to LRA they wouldn't care because it won't affect sales, in fact it'll be a positive for sales, ie the presence of the device will sell more cars than it will turn people off.

powella
11th January 2010, 06:05 AM
What about the jerry cans then, anyone tried them or thought of that? Hopefully all of them have spouts!

Cheers,
AP

Graeme
11th January 2010, 05:12 PM
The general spraying occurs because the nozzle cannot release the fuel below the breather port so fuel gets blown around by the escaping air.
As I refuel 99% of the time from this sole local pump, I'm not prepared to dribble in the fuel or get sprayed every time I refuel.
LRA replaced the narrow filler necks in the early D2s and kept the larger neck thereafter. Somewhere along the way LR have forgotten or dismissed the reason why Aus had larger filler necks.

Does the D3 filler neck take the large nozzles? If so, I hope LR haven't changed the basic shape as I will get one soon.

gps-au
11th January 2010, 05:23 PM
Interesting discussion,

my D3 had its fuel filler replaced when I put the extra tank in, Now I have never checked to see if a wide filler will fit as I haven't needed to yet, thinking about it, it probably wont, but some very interesting points....

Jesse B
21st January 2010, 07:23 PM
Apologies for resurrecting an 'old-ish' thread, but yesterday I pulled in to a small wheatbelt town, much in need of diesel - only to find that the whole town was suffering a power outage! No pumps! Yikes, I thought. Changed my intended route to detour via next nearest township as there was nothing for a looooong way down the road I'd planned to take.

On rocking up the this other little place I eventually found the fuel supply - a single bowser with unleaded one side and diesel the other. To my alarm, the diesel pump was one of the fat nozzle fast-flow jobs! :eek:

With this thread clearly in mind I ran an unavoidable experiment - could not fit nozzle down LR's nifty (and skinny) "misfuelling' neck, so took careful aim from about 20 mm and gently squeezed the trigger. To my massive relief no blow-back! Maybe I was lucky in being able to run this pump at a gentle enough pace to avoid this drama, but it still gulped 70 odd litres in a heck of a hurry. I still think I might try to avoid the fast-flow options when I can, but this at least has given some sort of comfort - and all because our lousy rural power system was down again!

Graeme
21st January 2010, 07:42 PM
I've found that if I press the large nozzle hard against the bottom of the large area and point the nozzle down then the fuel doesn't get sprayed about by the escaping air. But relax a moment and allow the nozzle to point slightly towards the top and the air does its job.

With a bit of luck and special favour, a filler neck without a mis-fuelling device will find its way to me in a little while.

AnD3rew
22nd January 2010, 09:19 AM
Used the large fast flow nozzles several time recently in my outback QLD trip in the 09 D3 and had absolutely no issues at all, wouyldn't like this misfuelling device installed on my car. Guess I won't be able to buy that D4 after all

CaverD3
22nd January 2010, 01:50 PM
I am sure you coulkd swap the filler from the D3 and sell the D4 to someone with a D3 and a 'blond' SWMBO. :D

gps-au
22nd January 2010, 03:05 PM
I am sure you coulkd swap the filler from the D3 and sell the D4 to someone with a D3 and a 'blond' SWMBO. :D

mmm, I didn't think to save the old D3 filler when I put the longranger tank in... which BTW, has the large nozzle problem as well.

Dingmark Jim
25th January 2010, 04:42 PM
I remember in the early 1970's when unleaded petrol first came out (this was in the USA) a few entrepreneurs started selling adaptors to allow the larger leaded fuel bowsers to be used in the smaller fuelling holes for unleaded cars (no doubt highly illegal). Would it be possible to make a similar adaptor out of (for example) the diesel pour hose from a Jerry Can which is the right size to fit in the D4 fuel filler but into which a high-flow nozzle can be inserted? Of course, it would probably require keeping the fuel flowing at partial rates to prevent a spill but better then eyeballing and squirting.

Graeme
25th January 2010, 06:24 PM
I thought about making an adaptor but it would need some sort of seal for the nozzle - perhaps an oil seal. It wouldn't help with the problem of having to hold the nozzle all the time but at least it would prevent the fuel from getting sprayed about by the escaping air. Storage would be required for the smelly adaptor.