Big old Battleship

[juddy]

Nothing to do with Land rovers, but posted as its a great bit of enginnering..

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PEARL HARBOR (Jan. 7, 2010) Workers at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard prepare for the undocking of the battleship EX-USS Missouri (BB 63). Approximately 1,000 civilian and military guests were aboard the ship for the 2-mile journey back to her pier at Ford Island

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[Bearman]

It is good to see historic ships such as the "Mighty Mo" preserved for future generations to see. She entered service late in WW2 and the Japanese surrender documents were signed on her deck by the Japenese emperor in Tokyo bay in 1945.

[87County]

heaps on line about it, visited OZ in 1986 after re-commissioning, another ex-US battleship was sold/given to The Argentine and as the General Belgrano ..........it was sunk by submarine attack on Thatcher's orders during the Falklands War with immense loss of life

[p38arover]

the General Belgrano ..........it was sunk by submarine attack on Thatcher's orders during the Falklands War with immense loss of life

You sound disapproving of Mrs Thatcher in respect to that, Laurie.

I saw the Missouri when she came her. Magnificent!

[87County]

You sound disapproving of Mrs Thatcher in respect to that, Laurie.

I saw the Missouri when she came her. Magnificent!

It was incorrect anyhow... the bit about a "sister ship" - it was a different class of ex-US battleship - orig post corrected

[Bigbjorn]

Belgrano was a cruiser, not a battleship. Missouri is one the the four ship "Iowa" class. Missouri, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Jersey. I think Missouri was in action off Vietnam and in the gulf war.

[101RRS]

You sound disapproving of Mrs Thatcher in respect to that, Laurie.

I saw the Missouri when she came here. Magnificent!



hehehe :cool:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

It was both a beginning and the end for battleships,,

nothing on water before or since could compete with it.

[Mudnut]

When I was in the U.S. Navy, I was stationed on the USS America. When in port in Norfolk, we shared a pier with the Missouri. It was amazing to look down on her decks and think of the power those guns could fire. Would get permission occasionally to come aboard, and have a wander around the top deck. Never went inside though. Many of the lower ranking enlisted men did not like being stationed on her, as all they did was polish brass, buff floors, and paint. It was a bit of a show pony, and any top brass would come aboard to have a look around. Any important person coming aboard, and an other round of cleaning would take place!
Didn't visit her when in pearl harbour, as my 5 year old was a bit over going through ships after going through the sub.

cheers,

Ken

[p38arover]

hehehe :cool:

All I'm saying is that I worked 11pm-7am last night with no prior sleep - and I'm about to hit the hay in a few minutes. :angel:

Gawd, I hate midnight shifts. I really, really loathe them.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Get over it Ron,,:p

how many left now??
less than a dozen?

[clean32]

to The Argentine and as the General Belgrano ..........it was sunk by submarine attack on Thatcher's orders during the Falklands War with immense loss of life

And a dam fine bit of shooting by a dam fine pommy sub crew. And a very good call firstly to sink the General Belgrano and with the type of torpedo used. The action in its self saved many life’s mainly because the agis stopped there encirclement maneuvers and run back to port with out taking any further part in the war.

The Missouri was conceived as a ship sinking ship but ended up mainly in a bombardment roll. A role that the ship was not so successful at, even with its big caliber the low or flat trajectory was not so good at reinforced emplacements

[juddy]

ARA Belgrano was sunk by HMS Conqueror, with the loss of 323 lifes, she was formerley the USS Phoenix, sold to Argentina in 1951.

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heaps on line about it, visited OZ in 1986 after re-commissioning, another ex-US battleship was sold/given to The Argentine and as the General Belgrano ..........it was sunk by submarine attack on Thatcher's orders during the Falklands War with immense loss of life

[101RRS]

All I'm saying is that I worked 11pm-7am last night with no prior sleep - and I'm about to hit the hay in a few minutes. :angel:

Gawd, I hate midnight shifts. I really, really loathe them.

Not interested in excuses :D.

[VladTepes]

It was both a beginning and the end for battleships,,

nothing on water before or since could compete with it.

Except Aircraft Carriers - which is what spelled the end of the Battleship.

Just ask the crew of Yamato. Oh wait, they are all dead I think.


(No doubt you'll be pedantic and say that an AC Carrier doesn't entirely count as "on water").

[p38arover]

Get over it Ron,,:p

how many left now??
less than a dozen?

Dunno. One more this week. I was talking to the boss this morning (he turned up at 4am!) Fortunately, I was working on the LROC News so it could go to the printer this morning, rather than doing fatigue management. :angel: My work location may be closing as soon as March. Maybe I'll get redundancy!

[x-box]

I love those big battleships.....

Especially in action movies like "under siege" :p

[DeeJay]

I love those big battleships.....

Especially in action movies like "under siege" :p


OK, OK SO WHERE IS CHER??:angel:

[VladTepes]

I love those big battleships.....

Especially in action movies like "under siege" :p


or was it Erika Eleniak's battleships you were more interested in !

[JDNSW]

Another interesting one I went over a number of years ago was the USS Texas, which is on display at San Jacinto near Houston. Laid down in 1913, it was not launched until 1915-16, partly because the turbine engines destined for it from Scotland were taken by the British for more important ships. As the USA could not build suitable steam turbines at the time, it became the only "Dreadnought" battleship completed with quadruple expansion reciprocating engines. In service until the end of WW2, it remained the slowest battleship in service, with the nickname "old slowcoach". One intersting feature was the antiaircraft emplacements welded on all over it, obvious because the original construction was all rivetted.

John

[Blknight.aus]

some of my mates used to do historic RPG wargames.

according to our games and the rules they played by in the configuration supplied by the game makers.

the bismark is a match for the Iowa class with it depending on who had the luck on the day for our one on one games.

Ive always wanted to see one of those history/science/technology channel shows do a really accurate simulation of it.

[Bearman]

OK, OK SO WHERE IS CHER??:angel:

She's on the forrard deck with her legs wrapped around one of the 16 inch guns. Cant you see her! Biggest thing she's had between her legs I bet.:):):)

[willem]

Apparently the Iowa class battleships were able to withstand a nuclear strike to within a distance of 1000 yards. Parts of them were protected by armour plating 14 inches thick. Amazing to see one retire after 67 years of service.

Does anyone know what has happened to the other three?

Willem

[Sprint]

General Belgrano ..........it was sunk by submarine attack on Thatcher's orders during the Falklands War with immense loss of life

lets not forget that the Argentinians started the Falklands conflict, but that they werent the only ones to sustain losses

it was war, after all

[Thommo]

Does anyone know what has happened to the other three?

Willem

Lots of info here (one of my favourite websites)

BB-61 Iowa Class (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/bb-61.htm)

Still looking for Cher...............

[juddy]

And by all accounts they still want it, the bad news is that the RN, could never mass such a fleet again, sure theres a airbase there with 4 Typhoon's on standby, 2000 ish troops, but thats all.. and you cant rust those sneaky Argentinians




lets not forget that the Argentinians started the Falklands conflict, but that they werent the only ones to sustain losses

it was war, after all

[easo]

It is good to see historic ships such as the "Mighty Mo" preserved for future generations to see. She entered service late in WW2 and the Japanese surrender documents were signed on her deck by the Japenese emperor in Tokyo bay in 1945.

he yanks can pull out the stops when it comes to preservation, especially if they find something that's historically significant.

We cant take HMVS Cerberus, slowly collapsing. She not only significant to us and Victoria, but on the world Navy side she is just as significant.

HMVS Cerberus (http://home.vicnet.net.au/~maav/hmvscerberus.htm)

Easo

[Tank]

Another interesting one I went over a number of years ago was the USS Texas, which is on display at San Jacinto near Houston. Laid down in 1913, it was not launched until 1915-16, partly because the turbine engines destined for it from Scotland were taken by the British for more important ships. As the USA could not build suitable steam turbines at the time, it became the only "Dreadnought" battleship completed with quadruple expansion reciprocating engines. In service until the end of WW2, it remained the slowest battleship in service, with the nickname "old slowcoach". One intersting feature was the antiaircraft emplacements welded on all over it, obvious because the original construction was all rivetted.

John
John, the USS Texas was also used in the film "The Battle of the River Plate" to represent the German raider the "Admiral Graf Spae", Regards Frank.

[Jamo]

Wasn't the Iowa the ship where one sailor packed his ex-boyfriend into one of the guns with a few charge packs and fired him off after a tiff?

I circled the Missouri in an army barge when she was parked in Gage Roads once. Big swell, but she just sat there.

Subs have taken over from Battleships.

[LRPV]

Wasn't the Iowa the ship where one sailor packed his ex-boyfriend into one of the guns with a few charge packs and fired him off after a tiff?

I circled the Missouri in an army barge when she was parked in Gage Roads once. Big swell, but she just sat there.

Subs have taken over from Battleships.

G'day Jamo

Whilst you were circling the Missouri, I was inspecting her decks first hand. I was lucky enough to be part of a group of enthusiasts that was invited to look over the battleship.
One thing that amazed me was how the deck was bowed like a banana. The pointy end (bow) ramped up a like ski jump. I even stood exactly where the WW2 Japanese surrender was signed.
I distinctly remember at least a dozen or so US Marines standing guard with M16s on the upper decks. No chance of anyone souveniring a 16inch gun or two :(

Stuart

[LRPV]

Apparently the Iowa class battleships were able to withstand a nuclear strike to within a distance of 1000 yards. Parts of them were protected by armour plating 14 inches thick. Amazing to see one retire after 67 years of service.

Does anyone know what has happened to the other three?

Willem

Willem

Check out the surviving US warships in this list...

Naval Museums and Preserved warships 1939-1945 Directory. Database of the Fleet Air Arm Archive 1939-1945 (http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Museums/Museums_ships2000A-Z.htm)

Stuart

[Ausfree]

Love the photo's of the "Mighty Mo" at the start of the thread, it is a pity the giant Japanese battleships Yamanato and Musashi (18" guns) did not survive WW2.They would have caused a sensation today!!!!:D

[Jamo]

I distinctly remember at least a dozen or so US Marines standing guard with M16s on the upper decks. No chance of anyone souveniring a 16inch gun or two :(

Stuart

Hello Stuart, I went on board the USS Carl Vinson (I think) when it was parked there later on. At the top of the gangway was a marine with an automatic shotgun and a bandolier of rounds; watching every single person come up the gangway. there were also armed marines on each deck.

Watched some armourers doing the timing on an aircraft cannon using a 10ft crowbar!

[Landy110]

I remember seeing the MO when she was in Sydney and we drove past it.
The thing that sticks in my mind is the fact that as we were approaching the line of the keel she just got wider and wider. When looking straight down her length from the bow she is HUGE in the beam.
Very impressive, it is a pity that we don't treasure our history as much as the yanks do.
England boasts the longest serving commissioned warship in the HMS Victory but she has been in dry dock for many many years, the yanks have the longest serving commissioned ship (sorry, Frigate) afloat in the USS Constitution, She can still put to sea.

[easo]

England boasts the longest serving commissioned warship in the HMS Victory but she has been in dry dock for many many years, the yanks have the longest serving commissioned ship (sorry, Frigate) afloat in the USS Constitution, She can still put to sea.

Victory is a great ship, one of her sail is also the worlds oldest textile to exists as well. It is still riddled with shot and cannon holes from Trafalgar.

Got to look around it in 08.
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Easo

[jonesy61]

I remember seeing the Mo parked at Garden Island dock.......half of it was still hanging out in the harbour...that was one big boat....traffic was an absolute nightmare that day

[martinozcmax]

Apparently the Iowa class battleships were able to withstand a nuclear strike to within a distance of 1000 yards. Parts of them were protected by armour plating 14 inches thick. Amazing to see one retire after 67 years of service.

Does anyone know what has happened to the other three?

Willem

I don't find it that amazing, the Ark Royal I served on had 12" armour plate. The problem with the older ships is that when hit they usually sank quickly and had a huge loss of life. The more modern naval ships have very thin plating and are designed for missiles to pass through. Old ships when hit lost hundreds with a few poor souls saved, modern ships lose a few with most OK. I know which I'd rather be on. ;)

[martinozcmax]

England boasts the longest serving commissioned warship in the HMS Victory but she has been in dry dock for many many years, the yanks have the longest serving commissioned ship (sorry, Frigate) afloat in the USS Constitution, She can still put to sea.

Sorry to disappoint you but having worked at Pompey Dockyards for a number of years on different ships I can definitely confirm the Victory is not the originally commissioned Lord Nelson flagship. A small part of of her may be original but she's mostly reproduction modern now. :(

[martinozcmax]

Victory is a great ship, one of her sail is also the worlds oldest textile to exists as well. It is still riddled with shot and cannon holes from Trafalgar.


Easo

I find that a bit hard to believe. What about the Turin Shroud that's linen and suppsedly dates from JC's time ?

[clean32]

I find that a bit hard to believe. What about the Turin Shroud that's linen and suppsedly dates from JC's time ?

1200s

[juddy]

I don't find it that amazing, the Ark Royal I served on had 12" armour plate. The problem with the older ships is that when hit they usually sank quickly and had a huge loss of life. The more modern naval ships have very thin plating and are designed for missiles to pass through. Old ships when hit lost hundreds with a few poor souls saved, modern ships lose a few with most OK. I know which I'd rather be on. ;)

Other than some of the ships that were either sunk or damaged in the Falklands war, ie HMS Sheffield, hit by a exocet Missile, which did not explode, but the missiles own fuel , set the ship on fire. I think a number of other ships were hit too, many of the bombs failing to explode on the lower decks.

[martinozcmax]

1200s

Even at 1200 it's 500 years or so older. :D

[101RRS]

Other than some of the ships that were either sunk or damaged in the Falklands war, ie HMS Sheffield, hit by a exocet Missile, which did not explode, but the missiles own fuel , set the ship on fire. I think a number of other ships were hit too, many of the bombs failing to explode on the lower decks.

Noting that the Sheffield was not actually sunk as it was scuttled as a safety measure due to approaching bad weather.

I was in the UK the following year doing Navy warfare training and we had the navigators from a number of the Falklands ships including Sheffield. He was in his cabin at the time of the hit and he said it just sounded like heavy book dropping on the floor. We also had a member who was on another ship (name escapes me now) that took an exocet into its helo hangar - again like Sheffield the missile was fired too close to arm so did not explode - the resulting fire was bad enough.

This whole operation had a real chance of being a disaster for the Brits but their tactics paid off and often forced the Argentineans to fire weapons out side their arming envelops. If the Argenrineans had used their conventional submarines to full effect the outcome may have been different - that is what the Brits were really worried about.

Back then and maybe even now - a nuclear sub and most surface ships are no match for a quiet diesel submarine running on batteries.

Garry

[clean32]

Even at 1200 it's 500 years or so older. :D

not disputing the fact

I have been lucky enough to see both the victory and the Cutty shark, and of course the victory’s main sail, quite interesting the different shot they used, most interesting was the Chain they fired to take out rigging, like stumpy numchucks.
The first aid kits kept in the capstan, 1 lump of salt and a rag. Oh and the major technological advance the victory had, flintlocks on the canon, less delay from fusing.

But all I can say is thank God I wasn’t born back then, im way to tall.

[clean32]

Back then and maybe even now - a nuclear sub and most surface ships are no match for a quiet diesel submarine running on batteries.

Garry

True today, the Nuclear attack subs are all a bit to big, therefore they give off a rather large magnetic disturbance ( layman’s terms) and because of that are relatively easier to detect. Size limits maneuverability and speed. More Grunt can compensate for this but more grunt = more sound etc

Any way Australia’s defense is based around subs, they are our first defense.

[martinozcmax]

Other than some of the ships that were either sunk or damaged in the Falklands war, ie HMS Sheffield, hit by a exocet Missile, which did not explode, but the missiles own fuel , set the ship on fire. I think a number of other ships were hit too, many of the bombs failing to explode on the lower decks.

My brother was on one of those ships. the bombs that failed to explode were dropped by some very brave argy pilots who at great personal risks came in very low.

They failed to explode because they didn't have enough time to detonate due to being dropped too low. this was until the brains trust at the BBC reported same on the world service and the pilots dropped them from higher.

HMS Sheffield was scuttled as she was badly damaged and carrying nukes, very hush hush at the time and still officially denied. Helps explain why her Captain - Captain Salt was given an award shortly after. Not normal policy if you lose your ship. ;)

[martinozcmax]

not disputing the fact

But all I can say is thank God I wasn’t born back then, im way to tall.

Me too, they sold an original union jack from the Battle of Trafalgar recently. Been handed down the same family for generations.

See £320,000 Union Jack flown at Battle of Trafalgar could start an export fight - Times Online (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6884574.ece)

[JDNSW]

Even at 1200 it's 500 years or so older. :D

There are Egyptian textiles going back to at least about 2000BC, and I have an idea that there are others going back even further

[juddy]

HMS Sheffield carring Nukes??? for who, Sheffield did have the ability to fire such a weapon, i have heard storys that some RFA carried Nuclear weapons maybe Fort Austin, but these would have been for the aircraft.???



QUOTE=martinozcmax;1157173]My brother was on one of those ships. the bombs that failed to explode were dropped by some very brave argy pilots who at great personal risks came in very low.

They failed to explode because they didn't have enough time to detonate due to being dropped too low. this was until the brains trust at the BBC reported same on the world service and the pilots dropped them from higher.

HMS Sheffield was scuttled as she was badly damaged and carrying nukes, very hush hush at the time and still officially denied. Helps explain why her Captain - Captain Salt was given an award shortly after. Not normal policy if you lose your ship. ;)[/QUOTE]

[101RRS]

HMS Sheffield carring Nukes??? for who, Sheffield did have the ability to fire such a weapon, i have heard storys that some RFA carried Nuclear weapons maybe Fort Austin, but these would have been for the aircraft.???

I also doubt that Sheffield carried nukes but in theory could have. The helos have the capability of dropping nuclear depth bombs so these could have to be carried.

From a tactical perspective and they are a nice "clean" weapon for a nuc - you also don't have to be quite so accurate - near enough is normally good enough.

Garry

[martinozcmax]

[QUOTE=juddy;1157226]HMS Sheffield carring Nukes??? for who, Sheffield did have the ability to fire such a weapon, i have heard storys that some RFA carried Nuclear weapons maybe Fort Austin, but these would have been for the aircraft.???

Sheffield and HMS Tiger both carried nuclear weapons. I won't go into more detail but I happen to know. Between my immediate family we served over 35 years in the pusser. I was in the RN for a number of years and in a position to know.

I signed the official secrets act however as the ships I served in are now razor blades and what with Al Qaeda etc I'd suggest the intelligence services have much more important things to worry about.

If you choose not to believe me that's your preorogative and it certainly won't bother me.

Martin

[clean32]

sheeesh guys

Nukes, every thing built after about 1960 has nuke systems capabilities in one form or another. but they were no where near the forklands. it wasn’t even discussed by the poms it just wasn’t going to happen, just not cricket. Look at the choice of torpedoes used for example. and imagine the global flack if any form of nuke was used or losed to the argis

the Sheffield was poked, aluminum don’t like heat, the weather cut up and who ever was tethered to it was going to be a big target, logical just dump it.

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

Back to the big old battleships, I had with my family a guided tour of the New Jersy BB-62 when she was in Brisbane, returning from the opening of the Saul Olympics in 88, yes, she was a big ship, and the top of "Y" turret had a deep dent/depression in it, a direct Kamikasi strike, they just pushed the wreckage over the side :eek: there was a section of deck housing on the aft deck with a yellow painted line around it, when enquired, I was informed that that area was out of bounds to all personal including the Admiral, thatwas where "the Spooks" lived and anybody inside the yellow line would be shot,we went inside one of the forward turrets, and to see down the bore of one of the main guns, BIG,but to work with full blast gear on it would have been unbearable, I managed to sit in the Old mans chair on the bridge, and could see the Bribie Island water tower through the binos, and was told that "If I could identify it those guns could hit it", the shells weighed aprox the same as a VW beetle (old type) and the 3 charge bags weighed 110 lbs ea, she took 21 miles to stop and turn from 30kts,listed speed was 36kts but that wasn't her true speed, (classified) she ws still steam driven, and her hospital could process 3000 casualities, with 5 or 6 Opp theatres.

And she sure did look nice steaming up the inside of Moreton Island when she was leaving, supposedly to return to US for removal of steam power and conversion to Nuculear power.


cheers

[juddy]

No I belive you was just a question. I was told
by my step brother who was in the raf
that nukes were in the mountain at gib too



[QUOTE=juddy;1157226]HMS Sheffield carring Nukes??? for who, Sheffield did have the ability to fire such a weapon, i have heard storys that some RFA carried Nuclear weapons maybe Fort Austin, but these would have been for the aircraft.???

Sheffield and HMS Tiger both carried nuclear weapons. I won't go into more detail but I happen to know. Between my immediate family we served over 35 years in the pusser. I was in the RN for a number of years and in a position to know.

I signed the official secrets act however as the ships I served in are now razor blades and what with Al Qaeda etc I'd suggest the intelligence services have much more important things to worry about.

If you choose not to believe me that's your preorogative and it certainly won't bother me.

Martin

[martinozcmax]

No I belive you was just a question. I was told
by my step brother who was in the raf
that nukes were in the mountain at gib too


[quote=martinozcmax;1157274]

Wouldn't be at all surprised. visited Gib several times but never knew enough about the running of the place to confirm.

To put it into context these were the days of the cold war when we had Russian "trawlers" following us collecting any dumped garbage (in those days all rubbish was simply thrown overboard I'm sorry to say now) and going through it.

I used to work on radar and weapons systems anything at all confidential or classified we had to smash into lots of little pieces and ditch a bit at a time.

The Russian trawlers had some of the ugliest woman I have ever seen as crew, I'm sure they were made up of ex olympic shot putters. :wasntme: This was back way before RN woman were even thought of being allowed to go to sea, wrens were all shore based.

[juddy]

I read some place recently that one of these battleships, even though loaned to a museum, can still be called upon if need, and must be kept in a sea ready condition...

[martinozcmax]

I read some place recently that one of these battleships, even though loaned to a museum, can still be called upon if need, and must be kept in a sea ready condition...

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Ther's an unbelievable amount of maintenance required to keep a big ship seaworthy.

After laying up in a refit whilst in commission it can take months to get through hats and sats (harbour and sea acceptance trials) then a workup for another month or so at somewhere like Portland.

I reckon mothballed probably means just that. :D :D

[juddy]

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Ther's an unbelievable amount of maintenance required to keep a big ship seaworthy.

After laying up in a refit whilst in commission it can take months to get through hats and sats (harbour and sea acceptance trials) then a workup for another month or so at somewhere like Portland.

I reckon mothballed probably means just that. :D :D

Mothballed just like the current rn fleet. What a shame
what ships did you serve on

[Disco44]

not disputing the fact

I have been lucky enough to see both the victory and the Cutty shark, and of course the victory’s main sail, quite interesting the different shot they used, most interesting was the Chain they fired to take out rigging, like stumpy numchucks.
The first aid kits kept in the capstan, 1 lump of salt and a rag. Oh and the major technological advance the victory had, flintlocks on the canon, less delay from fusing.

But all I can say is thank God I wasn’t born back then, im way to tall.

Yea to that Mate not much headroom at all.Did you know that the Ship's doctor that tended to Nelson when he was shot on deck took him down decks to nurse him and according to our guide when I was on "victory" the Doc was 6 foot 6 inches.He must have been on his hands and knees.Did you notice also the wax model of Nelson in his wardroom it was stated he was just over 5 foot.They were small back then.
John.

[clean32]

Yea to that Mate not much headroom at all.Did you know that the Ship's doctor that tended to Nelson when he was shot on deck took him down decks to nurse him and according to our guide when I was on "victory" the Doc was 6 foot 6 inches.He must have been on his hands and knees.Did you notice also the wax model of Nelson in his wardroom it was stated he was just over 5 foot.They were small back then.
John.

no when i saw it there was a wax model of Nelson and Hardy in the surgery. i didnt know about the Doc and doint recall reading any thing about him. that was in 1976

[THE BOOGER]

The battleships given to museum societies must be kept at a certain state of readyness and have a naval recruitment team on board, i think the Iowa (wiki) site has details of what is required.

there are 4 main points that must be kept.

[martinozcmax]

Mothballed just like the current rn fleet. What a shame
what ships did you serve on

The old aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal and HMS Tiger. She was originally built for the second world war but arrived too late and was converted to a helicopter carrier. Had the old 6" and 3" guns.

[RobHay]

She's on the forrard deck with her legs wrapped around one of the 16 inch guns. Cant you see her! Biggest thing she's had between her legs I bet.:):):)
Ahhhmmmmm .......not quite sure about that.....I will have to look into it:twisted:

[juddy]

The old aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal and HMS Tiger. She was originally built for the second world war but arrived too late and was converted to a helicopter carrier. Had the old 6" and 3" guns.

Did Tiger have a large Hanger?????

[juddy]

The battleships given to museum societies must be kept at a certain state of readyness and have a naval recruitment team on board, i think the Iowa (wiki) site has details of what is required.

there are 4 main points that must be kept.

Yes thats what i thought too.

[juddy]

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[jake]

G'day Everyone,

Certainly an amazing ship. I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to spend some time on her when she came over here in 86 as part of the liaision team when I was in the navy. The 3 days aboard her was quite amazing. Her fire control systems are an incredible piece of engineering.

Jake

[martinozcmax]

Did Tiger have a large Hanger?????

She certainly did. She was originally built for the second world war however wasn't completed in time. She was built with 6" and 3" guns forrard and aft however they removed them from the back and fitted a hanger. She used to fly off Sea King helo's.

They also updated the defences by giving her seacat missiles. Manually targetted, quite impressive to watch.

Not quite as impressive as watching Buccaneers and Phantom jets take off from the Ark Royal.

We also flew off a small observation plane called the gannet that used to be very entertaining to watch landing. They would start to fold the wings up into the storage position as soon as they landed on deck. I always wondered what they'd do if they happened to miss the last arrestor wire.

They never did though. :D

[PhilipA]

Any way Australia’s defense is based around subs, they are our first defense.

You mean "sub" don't you? Or are 2 servicable at the moment?
Regards Philip A

[juddy]

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You mean "sub" don't you? Or are 2 servicable at the moment?
Regards Philip A

I think one at least....

[p38arover]

I think one at least....

That many? :eek:

[Milkman Dan]

HMAS Canberra, she's a navy ship and currently underwater.....:angel: