leyland brothers car found

[Landy Smurf]

the land rover place at kotara has a station wagon that belonged to the leyland brothers it is is in average condition but it is waiting to be wrecked unless someone comes along and buys it i would but money is not on my side it was registered until june this year but id say rego has been taken off it still goes and body work is in a1 condition

[Mick_Marsh]

There's another one in the Birdwood Museum.

How much is it? How do you know it's an ex-Leyland Brother car? Can this be proved? Do you have Pic's?

It would be good to see it beside it's sibling at Birdwood.

regards
Mick

[101RRS]

Given that on eof the Leylands used to live just around the corner from 4xFour there is a good chance it is the real thing.

Garry

[Rangier Rover]

I'll give Leigh a call and find out for my self.
How dare they even think about parting out a truly historical vehicle:mad: I find it hard to believe my self as these guys now concentrate on latter models. Think they may be having us on on parting it out;) Would be very tired I'd imagine.

[Landy Smurf]

aparently one of the guys that works there has a leyland brothers book at home and he checked it and it is the same car with the same number plates and is unique with the rear wheel arches cut.yes i was surprised that they wood wreck a car of its nature sorry i cant get photos

[Shonky]

Pics?

model?

I too think they are having us on about parting it out. Threatening to destroy a historical vehicle is one thing sure to get Landy owners attention, and make them more willing to bid higher to "save" the vehicle. :mad:

[Cap]

Very interesting. I agree, someone here surely has the money to save a piece of history! Would love to see pics.

[MickS]

Find out how much they want for it....at the risk of adding fuel to the fire of my divorce proceedings, depending on price - I'll buy and donate...

[Rangier Rover]

Find out how much they want for it....at the risk of adding fuel to the fire of my divorce proceedings, depending on price - I'll buy and donate...

Are you serious? Let me know otherwise so I don't end up with it here:eek:
If no one here buys it I will to save it.

[Rangier Rover]

Just been in contact with All four X 4.

It is indeed a Leyland Brothers Landy.

Sending me some pics now:D

They think it is a 71 model with a 186.

No 35201103G Got to confirm this yet.

They have a few in apparently.

Not sure what they want for it yet but they're definitely are not parting it out;)

[Shonky]

Shonky is counting his pennies...

Maybe if my old man stopped wasting my inheretence chasing snow bunnies around Europe for 3 months of the year he could chip in a bit... :mad:

If that fails, I have a proposal:

Everyone chips in for an AULRO buy, and donation to a suitable museum.

[Basil135]

If that fails, I have a proposal:

Everyone chips in for an AULRO buy, and donation to a suitable museum.



:thumbsup::imwithstupid:

[MickS]

If that fails, I have a proposal:

Everyone chips in for an AULRO buy, and donation to a suitable museum.

With 6,242 members - it shouldn't be too hard....even with only a third that number chucking in five or ten bucks...great publicity too. Would make a brilliant documentary just quietly...

[Rangier Rover]

I may have just purchased it:eek: If I want it. I just have to confirm some info.
They don't want a lot for it so long as goes to an enthusiast and is not molested. Has books with it but not sure what yet.

[MickS]

Maybe if my old man stopped wasting my inheretence chasing show bunnies around Europe for 3 months of the year he could chip in a bit... :mad:



Snow bunnies too :)

[Scouse]

Maybe if my old man stopped wasting my inheretence chasing show bunnies around Europe for 3 months of the year he could chip in a bit... :mad:

Sounds like someone is a teensy bit jealous :p.

[incisor]

Sounds like someone is a teensy bit jealous :p.
more than a teensy bit me thinks....

:angel:

[Rangier Rover]

I may have just purchased it:eek: If I want it. I just have to confirm some info.
They don't want a lot for it so long as goes to an enthusiast and is not molested. Has books with it but not sure what yet.

Have just discussed it with my wife and has no problem with me acquiring this one so that makes it easier. :) Finding shed space is going to be the problem ATM:(
Plans are not to restore it as such. I would intend to bring it back to the condition it was in when it was last used in a film shoot. Will now have to find the series of films it may have been involved in. Shouldn't be to hard.:eek:

Will look interesting behind my 120" on a trailer. Be something you don't see every day.;)

[p38arover]

So am I.

[Basil135]

Have just discussed it with my wife and has no problem with me acquiring this one so that makes it easier. :) Finding shed space is going to be the problem ATM:(
Plans are not to restore it as such. I would intend to bring it back to the condition it was in when it was last used in a film shoot. Will now have to find the series of films it may have been involved in. Shouldn't be to hard.:eek:

Will look interesting behind my 120" on a trailer. Be something you don't see every day.;)

Hopefully, not pre-mature, but congrats. Glad to see that someone from here is going to look after it.

Would you consider donating it to the National Motor Museum, so that it could sit alongside the other one?

I am more than happy to chip in a bit of coin, along with others, to re-imburse you for your expenses, as I think it would be a shame if it was not on public display.

[dobbo]

Shonky is counting his pennies...

Maybe if my old man stopped wasting my inheretence chasing show bunnies around Europe for 3 months of the year he could chip in a bit... :mad:

If that fails, I have a proposal:

Everyone chips in for an AULRO buy, and donation to a suitable museum.

I'll chip in on a Snow Bunny, what 3 months a year can I have her?

Does she do mud as well as snow?

[Shonky]

great publicity too.

Exactly. ;)


Sounds like someone is a teensy bit jealous :p.

More than a teensy bit! :(


more than a teensy bit me thinks....

:angel:

Yeah... THAT! :o


Have just discussed it with my wife and has no problem with me acquiring this one so that makes it easier. :)

Glad to hear they are more interested in saving it than milking it. :)

I am Very keen so if you can't make it happen - flick me a PM and I will pick up where you left off. I'll even give you visiting rights...


I'll chip in on a Snow Bunny, what 3 months a year can I have her?

Does she do mud as well as snow?

Any 3 months my old man decides to enact the "semi" part of his semi retirement and get a job. :p

At the moment he spends more time galavanting around Europe than he does in Australia. :(

[Sleepy]

Good luck Rangier Rover, love to see some photo's.
I have noticed some old Leyland Brothers shows appearing on those new digital channels (GO! or 7Two?) I'll hit record next time I see it.
I think some of their stuff is also available on DVD.

<<pauses for a google>>

This mob have 12 series Flashback Entertainment (http://www.flashbackentertainment.com/searched.asp)

or JB Hifi Music Games DVDs at JB Hi-Fi Australia (http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/support.aspx?post=1&results=10&q=leyland+brothers&source=title&bnSearch=Go%21)


and here Leyland Brothers - Wheels Across the Wilderness DVD (2 Disc Set) (http://www.pitstop.net.au/view/4wd-off-road/page/query/plu/21268/)

some info here:)

ASK THE LEYLAND BROTHERS* (The Memorable TV Guide to Australian Television) (http://www.memorabletv.com/australia/showsa/ASKTHELEYLANDBROTHERS.htm)

and a facebook group here :Thump:
Leyland Brothers Appreciation Society | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=44804166727)

If your deal falls through I would be interested in Shonky's suggestion.

You could probably find a Land Rover dealer that would put it in their showroom - MLR in Melbourne have a lovely 80" they have been showing off for years.

[V8Ian]

Shonky is counting his pennies...

Maybe if my old man stopped wasting my inheretence chasing snow bunnies around Europe for 3 months of the year he could chip in a bit... :mad:

If that fails, I have a proposal:

Everyone chips in for an AULRO buy, and donation to a suitable museum.
Better a long term loan to various museums on a rotational basis.

[Rangier Rover]

We'll see what we have here first. Not one of their earlier ones I'm afraid. I'd be happy for it to reside in any Museum or dealer anyway. First priority is to save it from getting in the wrong hands at this stage.:)

[Shonky]

Better a long term loan to various museums on a rotational basis.

In order to loan it, someone needs to own it. ;)

If 200 people chuck in 10 bucks, who owns it? (happy to put my hand up!)


Personally, I'd rather see it go to an enthusiast who can take it to shows, baby it, and... lend it to museums etc. :)

[p38arover]

Any 3 months my old man decides to enact the "semi" part of his semi retirement and get a job. :p

At the moment he spends more time galavanting around Europe than he does in Australia. :(

Sounds like Doug Mulray's "Ski Instructor's Daughter" (I can upload it).

[Col.Coleman]

Does she do mud as well as snow?

Scallops and I may have some merchandise that will come in handy for this:twisted:

CC

[MickS]

Sounds like Doug Mulray's "Ski Instructor's Daughter" (I can upload it).

Ron, I remember that...can you send it to me??

[p38arover]

Ron, I remember that...can you send it to me??

I've just uploaded it to : http://p38arover.com/misc_files/Ski_Instructors_Daughter.mp3

Note: It is 7Mb in size - try a right click download rather than left clicking and trying to play it.

[Landy Smurf]

sorry everyone but as i was talking/working there today me and peter(the owner) worked out a deal hello my new 2a now that completes the collection

[Landy Smurf]

but just to make you feel better about me buying it
it is full of rust

[Rangier Rover]

:eek::eek::eek::eek:That must of happened wile I was talking to Leigh today;) He now has to explain his self for selling a 4X4 twice;) Doesn't matter as you're younger than me and have a lifetime to restore it;) I'll talk to Leigh latter:D
Peter is a very genuine bloke , I love his accent by the way. Would be good to work for I'd imagine.
I have an idea what she would have costed you any way:D
Good on you.:) Try and keep as much of it original that you possibly can if you restore it. AND DO THE RIGHT THING BY IT:mad:;)

Cheers Tony

[Landy Smurf]

:eek::eek::eek::eek:That must of happened wile I was talking to Leigh today;) He now has to explain his self for selling a 4X4 twice;) Doesn't matter as you're younger than me and have a lifetime to restore it;) I'll talk to Leigh latter:D
Peter is a very genuine bloke , I love his accent by the way. Would be good to work for I'd imagine.
I have an idea what she would have costed you any way:D
Good on you.:) Try and keep as much of it original that you possibly can if you restore it. AND DO THE RIGHT THING BY IT:mad:;)

Cheers Tony
na mate just jokin.i wood have loved it and was goin to ask him next time i saw him how much he wants for it but its ok

[Landy Smurf]

but just wonderin wat were ur intentions with it most of the lining need replacin

[Sleepy]

Helluva joke schmierer - you had me going!:o Hope RR didn't ring up the owner and abuse him!

[Rangier Rover]

but just wonderin wat were ur intentions with it most of the lining need replacin


Hard to say with out a good look. I have a few wrecks and spares here so should be a feasible project. Just may need some help as have very limited time:eek:

[Rangier Rover]

na mate just jokin.i wood have loved it and was goin to ask him next time i saw him how much he wants for it but its ok

If you want it and are going to do the right thing just say so now;) There are others here who also would take her on. You may get it cheaper than me:D Not that it would matter compared to getting it back into good shape:eek:

[Rangier Rover]

Helluva joke schmierer - you had me going!:o Hope RR didn't ring up the owner and abuse him!


Lucky I couldn't find his mobile no:lol2:

Yep, he got me real good, hook, line and sinker:D

Next thing he will post he's fair dincum:eek:

[Ausfree]

Came in late on this, would be happy to throw in a bit of dosh to help save the vehicle, I would be happy to help with restoration, if done in the Newcastle area, and provided the vehicle goes to a museum. Warning, I am not too mechanically inclined but happy to help with basic stuff.:)

[isuzutoo-eh]

AULRO restoration weekend at Rangiers?

but then you have to be careful of a 'too many cooks spoil the broth'

[Landy Smurf]

if i got it i would fix the interior to original i wood probly leave the xterior because thats how they had it and i would like to leave it original.intentions historic vehicle for a while at least taking it around and showing it off and then probly museum piece maybe alongside the original s1 in south australia but then i wood have to go to look at it. if there is anything you want to know about it i can find out

[easo]

Good to see the intrest going on.

Any piccys yet??

Easo

[DeeJay]

I remember starting my first job in 1970 & the boss asked what my interests were & I said Landrovers & he said OH a Leyland brother !!
So maybe its a 69 model?

[Mick_Marsh]

Birdwood swaps vehicles for displays with other Museums from time to time. It may be possible to re-united them for an anniversary at some time in the future.
I'll have a chat to the Birdwood people next time I'm there.

So Tony, let us know if it's a done deal. I'm sure there's a long que behind you

Congrats (if not premature) on a unique purchase.

regards
Mick

[Sleepy]

I know this is not the one but I have been googling around to see if I can find any later vehicles that may be the one.

Thought I'd post it up anyway cos it's such a nice shot. (Sorry if it's a repeat)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I believe it had a holden 6 in it. (161?)
Love the spare wheel holder on the roof - is that an oil cooler on the bonnet?

Does the Series 2 still have its 2.25?

[Rangier Rover]

I remember starting my first job in 1970 & the boss asked what my interests were & I said Landrovers & he said OH a Leyland brother !!
So maybe its a 69 model?
Close, I've been told its a 71.

[Rangier Rover]

I know this is not the one but I have been googling around to see if I can find any later vehicles that may be the one.

Thought I'd post it up anyway cos it's such a nice shot. (Sorry if it's a repeat)

http://www.history.sa.gov.au/motor/images/exhibition/Leyland.jpg

I believe it had a holden 6 in it. (161?)
Love the spare wheel holder on the roof - is that an oil cooler on the bonnet?

Does the Series 2 still have its 2.25?

Had a look my self, Think I may have found a post card pic at Birdsvile but cant be sure.

[Rangier Rover]

Good to see the intrest going on.

Any piccys yet??

Easo Soon! I always come good with pics in time;) If no one else spoils first.:o Let the mystery unfold over time.:eek:

[JamesH]

I remember just a few years ago driving in a Defender convoy of two just north of Newman on the way to the way to Marble Bar on the Nullagine road and meeting a road gang doing some work on a washout. The lollipop guys didn't think we'd have UHF. We overheard one say to his mate and the grader driver - "Hang on mate, we've got the bloody Leyland Brothers coming through". As we passed we heard "Strewth, how did they make it up here in those!".

Toyota fans, they're so rude.

[Rangier Rover]

What I was hoping for:D
Have checked the numbers and we have a....

352 Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Station wagon
Wheel base: 109in
Engine: 6-cylinder
Model years: 1966-1971
Destination: Completely knocked down (CKD), right-hand drive (RHD)
01103 Serial number
G Design: Six significant design modifications
Suffix used from April 1969 till October 1971

Should have a sals rear end being a six with a few other tricks I hope:D

[LandyAndy]

Looking forward to pics.
Given your time/storage constraints and the offers of donations a AULRO renovation sounds like a great idea.
Labour/parts and $$$ are all on offer.
Have a good think about it:cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[Rangier Rover]

Looking forward to pics.
Given your time/storage constraints and the offers of donations a AULRO renovation sounds like a great idea.
Labour/parts and $$$ are all on offer.
Have a good think about it:cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

I have no dramas with your suggestions. As I said before lets see what we end up with here. If its to far gone for me to take on I'll ask you guys to chip in and it will be put along side of its older brother in effect:) Either way it will be available to the public to see. If I keep it.. It will be trailered to places of interest at my expense:eek:

[PAT303]

What I was hoping for:D
Have checked the numbers and we have a....

352 Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Station wagon
Wheel base: 109in
Engine: 6-cylinder
Model years: 1966-1971
Destination: Completely knocked down (CKD), right-hand drive (RHD)
01103 Serial number
G Design: Six significant design modifications
Suffix used from April 1969 till October 1971

Should have a sals rear end being a six with a few other tricks I hope:D

I have an identicle vehicle,'67 2a with the sidevalve 6 with SU carb,mine doesn't have the sals rear end,they didn't arrive till the series 3. Pat

[Rangier Rover]

I have an identicle vehicle,'67 2a with the sidevalve 6 with SU carb,mine doesn't have the sals rear end,they didn't arrive till the series 3. Pat

That is not entirely correct. Some late 2A 109 Sixes did infact have have the sals. 69 onwards,I've seen heaps of them over the years

[seano87]

Ah all the talk of this vehicle has made me very curious. Will have to go for a journey into Newcastle tomorrow and have a good look. I will take pictures for myself, but shan't divulge in the interests of letting the mystery unravel in good time!

Seano

[p38arover]

I'd love to have a story and pics for the Feb issue of the LROC News. The Jan issue is at the printer.

[p38arover]

Here's a post I made after Mike passed away:


These pics I took recently of their 1958 Series 1 Landie at the Birdswood (SA) motor museum:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/953.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/954.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/955.jpg

[THE BOOGER]

Check LROCS gallery photo MLeylandLandy2 could be the one at kotara I did see a short story once about this photo and LR but cant find it now seems there was two trucks on that trip.

P.S. dont know how to post the link if somebody, Ron? perhaps could do it please:D

P.P.S not the one this is the one from the museum

[Landy Smurf]

rangie,
im am happy either way but like you said im going to see whether it is to far gone for me to take on as i already have alot on my plate so today ill try ang get you and me more info,everywhere there is rust and how bad and what will need replacing and even though it has a 6 cyl in it it is a holden one.sorry i cant get any pics but if you can find a pic on the net it is a cream coloured station wagon 2a with a green bonnet andthe rear guard is cut into a trapezium not a normal arch bonus also it has the original number plates ay....ill try and get the full number plate for you too

[Shonky]

So have you secured it yet Tony? :D

[Rangier Rover]

rangie,
im am happy either way but like you said im going to see whether it is to far gone for me to take on as i already have alot on my plate so today ill try ang get you and me more info,everywhere there is rust and how bad and what will need replacing and even though it has a 6 cyl in it it is a holden one.sorry i cant get any pics but if you can find a pic on the net it is a cream coloured station wagon 2a with a green bonnet andthe rear guard is cut into a trapezium not a normal arch bonus also it has the original number plates ay....ill try and get the full number plate for you too

In all fairness I'll talk to Leigh and mention you may have wanted it.
Would be a big job to tidy it up for sure. I wonder if that 186 went in earlier on.
Try not to post any pics yet with out asking the boss it as has not been advertised.;)

If you cant or don't take it on I'll get it to safety.

No big rush as I cant do anything before next wednesday.

Cheers Tony

[Landy Smurf]

riteo i cant take any pics anyway.bit weird since we are both tony

[Landy Smurf]

yeah thanks but you did ring first so its a bit evens stevens.where about are you at because if i didnt get it i would not mind helping or seeing it

[Rangier Rover]

yeah thanks but you did ring first so its a bit evens stevens.where about are you at because if i didnt get it i would not mind helping or seeing it

Only just over two and a half hrs from you. About 80kms N/W of Merriwa.

[Shonky]

Regarding the motor, does anyone know wether the Leyland brothers themselves put the Holden in?

The 107" Station Wagon used in Wheels Across a Wilderness was converted, so whats to say they didn't do the same to this one?

Lord knows, the 2.6 was roundly disliked by most!

[seano87]

Well, I have been to All4x4 today and have seen the car, and taken lots of pictures. For those interested, I will email you them if you PM me your email address and will answer questions as best I can about it.

Seano

[Phoenix]

I've got a few good (large) photos of the one at the museum in SA, it's a ripepr of an unrestored vehicle.

I would have to say that the holden 6 was likely done by the leyland brothers, so that part is likely to be original.

[Landy Smurf]

i heard someone came in today taking photos anyway here is the rundown the chassis is stuffed so is the doors and the firewall isnt to far off the lining is average except on the passengers door its stuffed they want $1500 for it first in best dressed to rebuild it i think your looking at an easy 5k im not buying it they bought it for $100 lucky bastards the number plate is ayi077

[seano87]

What I was hoping for:D
Have checked the numbers and we have a....

352 Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Station wagon
Wheel base: 109in
Engine: 6-cylinder
Model years: 1966-1971
Destination: Completely knocked down (CKD), right-hand drive (RHD)
01103 Serial number
G Design: Six significant design modifications
Suffix used from April 1969 till October 1971

Should have a sals rear end being a six with a few other tricks I hope:D

Further to what you have found out, it is in fact a 1970, and the serial number is close but not quite. Its 201103C but perhaps G, a little hard to say decisively from the photo I took off the spring hanger. (edit: with some photoshop intervention, it looks more to be a G)

In terms of its overall condidition, it is fairly good overall. It terms of restoration it wouldn't be a huge task. The body looked pretty straight, interior is fair to good with a few rips in vinyl but nothing really major except lining on doors.

The biggest concern is some rust throughout the chassis, but nothing looked to be excessively bad - but I couldn't really get underneath too much, they said it was pretty bad so I will believe them. Exhaust is a bit rusted and holey too, but that's hardly a big issue!

It does have a rear sals differential, head lamps in guard. Most of the interior is complete, appears to be missing 2 dash gauges however.

There are a few more little comments about its condition I could make but I like how this is being drawn out :D

Hope that has whet people's appetite a little more about it all...

It will be good to see it snapped up and a little TLC given to it, and hopefully displayed as it deserves.

Seano

[DeeJay]

So its not one that crossed the continent but was used in thier later TV docco's.
Even then not for long,as the Leylands dumped Landies in favour of Jeeps pretty quickly - no doubt a cash incentive was involved.
Sorry, but I can't see what the fuss is about.

[bigcarle]

the leyland DVD's are reguarly on ebay and there is a heap of them including ask the leyland brothers from the 70's with the VW campers:o
the one in the birdwood meuseum was donated by Mal Leyland (dec) which is documented in the east-west crossing DVD at the end;)
last word is mike was aeound the Glenn Innes way

owning it is like owning a peice of history:arms::TakeABow:

[Grover-98]

I think i might pay a visit to All4X4 tomorrow :) to see myself some Landy History :D

James.

[Jeff]

the one in the birdwood meuseum was donated by Mal Leyland (dec) which is documented in the east-west crossing DVD at the end;)
last word is mike was aeound the Glenn Innes way

owning it is like owning a peice of history:arms::TakeABow:

I think it was Mike that is deceased, and Mal is around Glen Innes.

Jeff

:rocket:

[Landy Smurf]

yeah if you do grover you should come and say hi you better be drivin ur disco

[Jeff]

So its not one that crossed the continent but was used in thier later TV docco's.

Sorry, but I can't see what the fuss is about.

Only the coolest TV doco series ever, and with the coolest vehicles ever. IIRC, the wagon, AYI 077, had the longer spring hangers like the army 2As and water tanks in the front mudguards. The table top was AYI 056?

Jeff

:rocket:

[Rangier Rover]

I may post some pics of the interior latter. Looks fairly straight but rust is a worry:eek: The resent owner has done a bit and I'd say has had a respray at some stage. Some originality may have been lost and has no Leyland Brothers decals etc. I'd say not as special as the Series 1 posted earlier.

[Rangier Rover]

This one is AYI 077

[Ausfree]

Has anybody thought of approaching Mal Leyland for a bit of background (photo's, history on the vehicle) is that possible?:confused:

[Mick_Marsh]

Has anybody thought of approaching Mal Leyland for a bit of background (photo's, history on the vehicle) is that possible?:confused:

Great Idea. Who knows him? I bet someone in this forum does (or at least knows someone who does).

[Landy Smurf]

so is anyone going to buy it for $1500 im definately not

[LandyAndy]

Hi Tony
If you do purchase the beast and are willing how about we start a Renovation Donation thread aimed at giving this old girl a new life.
Members can pledge $$$ parts and labour.
Yours to look after and own,OURS to enjoy the pride of we all helped do it!!!!
Andrew

[Mick_Marsh]

If I bought it, I would ship it over to Birdwood and have them store and display it unrestored. These vehicles have a tamber. (Is that the word I'm after?)


so is anyone going to buy it for $1500 im definately not

How much is it worth? I have little experience with buying a vehicle with my head. I always buy with my heart. Subject to inspection It may be worth $500 plus $500 for the historical significance. I'd offer $1,000. As a side note, about fifteen years ago someone offered me $1500 scrap value for my series 3 so the Leyland LR may be worth $1500.


So its not one that crossed the continent but was used in thier later TV docco's.
Even then not for long,as the Leylands dumped Landies in favour of Jeeps pretty quickly - no doubt a cash incentive was involved.
Sorry, but I can't see what the fuss is about.

Even so, in my opinion, it's still of historical significance.


In order to loan it, someone needs to own it. ;)

If 200 people chuck in 10 bucks, who owns it? (happy to put my hand up!)


Personally, I'd rather see it go to an enthusiast who can take it to shows, baby it, and... lend it to museums etc. :)


With 6,242 members - it shouldn't be too hard....even with only a third that number chucking in five or ten bucks...great publicity too. Would make a brilliant documentary just quietly...

I'd put in $100 if it was donated to and owned by "The National Motor Museum" If it was donated, they may even transport.

regards
Mick

PS I didn't sell the S3 for scrap. The head said yes, the heart said no. I still have it.

[Rangier Rover]

I'll try to sort it out tomorrow.;)
It will need help. Looks OK but the rust has to be delt with.:( The interior will be OK to restore other wise. Panels are savable. I'd prefer to repair the rust than change bulkheads and doors frames etc. May then have to strip the paint and do new interior and try to age the exterior for its period.
The chassis is another consideration though. The mechanicals and electrics are going to be the easy part.;)

I am working on its history now but may need a lot of help in this part.

Cheers Tony

[ellard]

Hi there all

Been reading this post with a gleam in my eye as like alot of others members on this forum - I am a bit of a History buff......

But do we have any pictures...........yet.

Wayne

[Rangier Rover]

It just looks like any other 2A.

Sorry but I wont post any pics of the out side yet.

The interior will give you an idea..
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=21682&stc=1&d=1263414120

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=21683&stc=1&d=1263414374



Cheers Tony

[Landy Smurf]

i am sorry but i just dont have the room or the money unless someone bought my s3 then i could buy it.i think we need to try and find the original photos and see what has been changed.but i honestly think that chassis needs to go and to do that you mose well do the lot

[Rangier Rover]

i am sorry but i just dont have the room or the money unless someone bought my s3 then i could buy it.i think we need to try and find the original photos and see what has been changed.but i honestly think that chassis needs to go and to do that you mose well do the lot

It will be a massive renovation to bring it back to its former glory:(

Would be a full strip and rebuild. Gal cappings and all. Few things have been changed and/or now missing.

Many here have renovated Landy's in much worse shape with little or no history so definitely worth doing!
I'd love get it back to what was in its last days of the Leyland Brothers but some want to keep it the way it is. We'll have some discussion on that here I guess what ever the out come.:)

Cheers Tony

[101RRS]

If this has some historic value - DO NOT RESTORE IT - just bring it back to a running state. Its value is in its 'patina' and to remove this just makes it the same as any other landie.

Many people have tried to restore historic and then found all its value and appeal is gone.

If there is a desire to restore to its historic originality then that is best left to experts in such matters - the cost would be prohibitive.

Garry

[Shonky]

I guess the hard thing is to find out which of the changed / missing things were Leyland Brothers changes, as opposed to changes by subsequent owners. ;)

From what I understand it could be renovated in much the same way as I did Ambrose - retaining the patina.

I for one would suggest that it is likely that the Holden conversion was done by the Leylands... They did it before (to the 107), and I doubt they would have liked the Rover 6cyl!

[Rangier Rover]

If this has some historic value - DO NOT RESTORE IT - just bring it back to a running state. Its value is in its 'patina' and to remove this just makes it the same as any other landie.

Many people have tried to restore historic and then found all its value and appeal is gone.

If there is a desire to restore to its historic originality then that is best left to experts in such matters - the cost would be prohibitive.

Garry The rust, whats now missing of it and the fact that it apears some one recently has tried to freshen it away from its originality are my concerns :(

[Grover-98]

I went into ALL4X4 today and had a word with a mate of mine Geoff Maeder who works there and has been putting the most time into this vehicle. I discussed with him the fact that the vehicle was being potentially purchased by a member of this forum. He was surprised to hear this and stated that he has been spending the past 2 weeks contacting and sending information to the Museum in Adelaide as he is trying to get the vehicle down there to be parked along side the other landy.

From what i have read on this thread this is something that we all want to happen if possible?! Perhapse we should wait for the final word from the museum and with any luck it will end up with its Brother :)

Thoughts on this?!


Kind Regards James.

[Rangier Rover]

I went into ALL4X4 today and had a word with a mate of mine Geoff Maeder who works there and has been putting the most time into this vehicle. I discussed with him the fact that the vehicle was being potentially purchased by a member of this forum. He was surprised to hear this and stated that he has been spending the past 2 weeks contacting and sending information to the Museum in Adelaide as he is trying to get the vehicle down there to be parked along side the other landy.

From what i have read on this thread this is something that we all want to happen if possible?! Perhapse we should wait for the final word from the museum and with any luck it will end up with its Brother :)

Thoughts on this?!


Kind Regards James.
I have spoken to Goef today in detail;). Yes we all do potentially want to see it go to the museum. However we all also want to see it as at was;) Told Geof my intentions. Not to restore it as new but with care make it like it was. As you may be aware a lot of the gear was removed off it when they got the Jeeps. The front guards are now different along with other minor things as well.

Some of the boys at all Four X 4 know me quite well now so there is an element of trust here.;)
Send me a PM if any of you have any personal reasons to do so or a problem with my intentions as this really needs to cool off here on a public forum for a wile.:)


Tony

[Landy Smurf]

i think wait till we/geoff finds out from the museum and then if its no good we will go from there if i had the money laying around i would jump at this and then i would get up of the ground and buy it:D

[Mick_Marsh]

I emailed the curator at the national motor museum today. He didn't say yes, he didn't say no. This is what he did say:

Thank you for your email regarding a Leyland Brothers Land Rover. The National Motor Museum is always open to offers of donations of interesting and significant vehicles. All such offers are handled by an Acquisitions Committee. As such I therefore act as the Secretary of the Committee and receive all such offers. That said, I fear that the Land Rover in question may be one that was recently offered to the Museum and that the Acquisitions Committee has declined, I can't say for sure it is the same vehicle, but the circumstances sound familiar. I will happily take your offer to the Acquisitions Committee (or possibly back to the Acquisitions Committee should it be the same vehicle) if you would like. In order to do this I shall need an offer of donation, in writing (via email is fine), and some images of the vehicle as it currently sits.

I'm not good at reading between the lines but I think they may take it if it was donated to them. I'll get further clarification. If this is the case, I'm prepared to throw $100 into the hat. Anyone else?

regards
Mick

[Shonky]

I believe one of our own has already put wheels in motion to give this a good home. :)

My suggestion of an AULRO group buy was made when I thought the vehicle was going to be scrapped. We now know this is not the case. ;)

To the people saying that the vehicle should be presented entirely as is: the vehicle is not in it's Leyland Brothers condition. It has been in various private hands for over 30 years, and many of the distinguishing features have been re-modified or removed altogether. We all agree that the vehicle should be presented as it was during its famous years. To bring it back to that standard will require extensive research, and a fair deal of work. I suspect this is why the museum would have turned it down. (assuming it is the same one eluded to in the email Mick posted above)

It is on track for an ideal outcome here - lets not upset the applecart. :)

[Ausfree]

I emailed the curator at the national motor museum today. He didn't say yes, he didn't say no. This is what he did say:

Thank you for your email regarding a Leyland Brothers Land Rover. The National Motor Museum is always open to offers of donations of interesting and significant vehicles. All such offers are handled by an Acquisitions Committee. As such I therefore act as the Secretary of the Committee and receive all such offers. That said, I fear that the Land Rover in question may be one that was recently offered to the Museum and that the Acquisitions Committee has declined, I can't say for sure it is the same vehicle, but the circumstances sound familiar. I will happily take your offer to the Acquisitions Committee (or possibly back to the Acquisitions Committee should it be the same vehicle) if you would like. In order to do this I shall need an offer of donation, in writing (via email is fine), and some images of the vehicle as it currently sits.

I'm not good at reading between the lines but I think they may take it if it was donated to them. I'll get further clarification. If this is the case, I'm prepared to throw $100 into the hat. Anyone else?

regards
Mick
Any ideas why the vehicle was declined from a recent offer? :confused:

[Mick_Marsh]

I think it was because they were asked to pay for it. I'll ask why tomorrow.

[Ausfree]

OK I have just read Shonky's reply which answers my querie.:)

[Shonky]

Not entirely Aus - I was simply musing. ;)

Museums generally don't have a lot of money to throw at major refurbs, and often lack the man power and facilities also. I am unsure of the situation of the above museum.

Anyway - we are talking loudly in public here, and I'm sure none of us want this vehicle falling into the wrong hands.


I'm not helping either, so I am going to do my best to shhhhhh now. :eek:

[bigcarle]

my apologies on the previous post saying that mal had died when in fact it was mike :blush::eek:
personally by the sounds of it with the amount of rust and 'modifications' that it has, it should be restored to the way it was in the series and placed with its brother in the museum but be able to go on display at various places around the country to suitable organisations
my 2 bobs worth
and as financially limited as i am i would be willing to donate to the preservation of this icon

[Rangier Rover]

Its worth an ask:angel:
Can any of you come forward with any Links, Movies (DVDs) ,Books (Other than off the beaten track and further of the beaten track) or any TV series of even older photos that involve this vehicle?

http://walkabout.infotech.monash.edu.au/Butternut-solution/pix/0734405928.jpg

Tony

[Landy Smurf]

all that i have said on this topic is just my opinions
i apologise for stating how much they paid for it,should not have been said(i have learnt my lesson there) :(
im sorry to geoff i didnt realise that u were working so hard to achieve wat u were.:(
and when i said "lucky bastards" i meant lucky as getting a car so cheap with so much historical value
the only reason i started this thread was because of my passion for land rovers and specially this one my intentions were only for the car to get the best home/treatment
i hope that not to many people were hurt in this as i said its just my passion for land rovers :)
if anyone wants to talk to me feel free
also i am sorry to rangie and the forum for the trouble i have caused u

[isuzutoo-eh]

Hi Rangier,
not sure if you have seen this website:
Expeditions, Australia (http://www.allisons.org/ll/4/Australia/Expedition/)

*A 1963 88" petrol Land-Rover hard top (9.00x16 aero sand tyres). Army style guards front and rear, front jerry bar and rear tool box on tailgate*
might refer to yours.
-Mark

[Mick_Marsh]

*A 1963 88" petrol Land-Rover hard top (9.00x16 aero sand tyres). Army style guards front and rear, front jerry bar and rear tool box on tailgate*


That's the one at Birdwood

regards
Mick

[Shonky]

*A 1963 88" petrol Land-Rover hard top (9.00x16 aero sand tyres). Army style guards front and rear, front jerry bar and rear tool box on tailgate*
might refer to yours.
-Mark



That's the one at Birdwood


Actually it is the brother of the one at Birdwood. The Birdwood one is a Series I 107" Station Wagon, as pictured in previous posts.

I am told that the '63 SWB was wrecked at Dungog donkeys years ago and is lost. :( The wheels were still in the shed a few years ago...


This one is a '71 LWB Station Wagon. ;)

[Rangier Rover]

OK you lot;)
The cat is likely out of the bag now; I have decided to retrieve this thing into captivity so its safe.
I know we all have mixed feelings on this but you have to believe me the museum cant take it ATM. I do care what you all say but its the truth as many hrs have already been spent on research and information on this one and we cant convince the museum to take it as is. No room no funds etc. So please give me a chance to save this Land Rover and not make it any harder for me:)

As most of you are aware this was the last Land Rover they had before the Jeeps.

It has only had one owner since the Leyland brothers so we are the second. I will be able to retain the number plates at my expense by storage or transferring them to another vehicle so we wont ever lose them.

If we keep this one as is, as found well that's fine but cant be registered and proudly display its original number plates. So the decision we have to make is repair the issues and make it very roadworthy and bring back its identity or let it die:(

I'm working on finding the original bonnet, longer shackles etc. The original outer front guards may be lost though:( This one also ran the 900X 16 for a short time.
The bar work and water tanks may be long gone as Mike and Mal removed them when it was sold. With a lot of care some of it may be refabricated to perfection.

I still have a lot of information yet to be documented.

Tony

[Shonky]

Fantastic news! :D

It is sad that the museum didn't have the means to care for it, but the vehicle requires much work and effort which they simply couldn't provide.

This is the perfect outcome for the vehicle - I am so glad it has gone to a good home and that it will preserved in it's historically significant state! :D

[LandyAndy]

Great news Tony
Wonder if the Leylands(Mal) still have the bits removed sitting in a shed??? Would be worth traking Mal down,you never know what he has to donate to the cause.Pictures,records,etc etc.Im sure he would be very interested in its future.
If you decide to display it as is in a museum and you own the plates surely "copies" are acceptaple.ie order new replacements one at a time as you lost one;););),originals can stay on it for display purposes,you put the real ones on a suitable drive.
When you are ready and you decide what you want to do with the old girl make sure you start a thread where we can all pledge our help.Labour,parts and $$$$.
WELL DONE!!!
Andrew

[Rangier Rover]

Great news Tony
Wonder if the Leylands(Mal) still have the bits removed sitting in a shed??? Would be worth triking Mal down,you never know what he has to donate to the cause.Pictures,records,etc etc.Im sure he would be very interested in its future.

I'm working towards:) Just have to be very careful and also considerant so cant rush things in this part.


If you decide to display it as is in a museum and you own the plates surely "copies" are acceptaple.ie order new replacements one at a time as you lost one;););),originals can stay on it for display purposes,you put the real ones on a suitable drive.
It's now very public so all must be above board. I'm going to contact the RTA to see if we have any exceptions.


When you are ready and you decide what you want to do with the old girl make sure you start a thread where we can all pledge our help.Labour,parts and $$$$.
WELL DONE!!!
Andrew

Thanks,
This will be the scary bit:eek: I know all will want to be a part of this and in many ways will be wile I remain a member here.;)

I cant expect any of you to contribute any $$$ but some spare parts and labour of love is welcome over a BBQ etc.

First job will be building some sort of a restoration shed to get all this sort of thing well away from my work place.:) Doesn't have to be flash so will be looking for second hand material from demolitions, storm damages and remains of old buildings on this property etc.
Now where are those boy scouts!

[Larry]

[QUOTE=Rangier Rover;1160067]........... I know all will want to be a part of this and in many ways will be wile I remain a member here.;)........../QUOTE]





Although many members have been strong in their thoughts on what should or shouldn't happen with this vehicle, the fact is you are the one who put your $$$$ forward.

So, what ever you decide to do with it is good with me!:D:D:D

I look forward to watching the progress (no pressure).:p

[dobbo]

$1500.00 are they serious?????????? They most likely got it for $20 worth of fuel in the tow truck.

Has anyone actually proved that it is really the real vehicle


I wonder what the Turdis is worth after Dobbo has driven it?

[isuzutoo-eh]

$1500.00 are they serious?????????? They most likely got it for $20 worth of fuel in the tow truck.

Has anyone actually proved that it is really the real vehicle


I wonder what the Turdis is worth after Dobbo has driven it?

Nothing.


:D

[dobbo]

Nothing.


:D

my point exactly so why is this company charging so bloody much for the vehicle in question?

[isuzutoo-eh]

Because the Leylands were popular heroes that inspired a few generations and are associated with the particular vehicles, which were the tools that allowed them to do what they did to achieve their popularity.
Watch The Collectors on TV one night, it is usually the story behind the item that is worth the big dollars.

[dobbo]

Because the Leylands were popular heroes that inspired a few generations and are associated with the particular vehicles, which were the tools that allowed them to do what they did to achieve their popularity.
Watch The Collectors on TV one night, it is usually the story behind the item that is worth the big dollars.

Exactly my point


I have inspired a few generations and am associated with my particular vehicles, I am a popular hero to some, women through themselves at me, I am very attractive man;). The Turdis is one of the tools that allowed me to do what I do to achieve my ever increasing popularity.


So

I wonder what the Turdis is worth after Dobbo has driven it?

[Rangier Rover]

No one should have ever mentioned money;) Price in or out for that matter and I have promised to keep the real facts confidential so we'll leave it at that:)

And it did not come on a tow truck either;)

We have plenty of proof its the actual Land Rover in question. I'll reveal some of this soon.


Tony

[Landy Smurf]

No one should have ever mentioned money;) Price in or out for that matter and I have promised to keep the real facts confidential so we'll leave it at that:)

And it did not come on a tow truck either;)

We have plenty of proof its the actual Land Rover in question. I'll reveal some of this soon.


Tony

No one should have ever mentioned money Price in or out for that matter in my defence i never named the company or anyones full name that work there.i agree i shouldnt have said $100 but i dont see anything wrong with saying $1500

[bigcarle]

good on ya rangie rover for saving this icon!!!!:tease::clap2::BigThumb::TakeABow:
i might have some more info on the car from that time (photo from book) can post a pic later (when i work out how:D)
or would you like that PMed

[Sleepy]

Good onya Rangie,
Let us know your plans after you work up a plan.
I will be probably a bit too far to help spannering but may be able to help other ways.
Agree this is not as valuable as their west/east vehicles but nonethless worth saving.

Now if only we could find that orange kombi

YouTube- "Ask the Leyland Brothers" Theme Song

Ahhh I remember that t-shirt - very well :o;)



I wonder what the Turdis is worth after Dobbo has driven it?

Does it come with matching manbag?

[dobbo]

Does it come with matching manbag?

whats does that mean? Why would I be associated with a manbag?

[Sleepy]

Not to worry dobbo - I was having a lend of you. No offense intended - relates to a comment you made about 90 drivers. I can't find it so I'll shut up.

OK found it http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/92801-90-coming-back-8.html#post1120098

[Rangier Rover]

Good onya Rangie,
Let us know your plans after you work up a plan.
I will be probably a bit too far to help spannering but may be able to help other ways.
Agree this is not as valuable as their west/east vehicles but nonethless worth saving.

Now if only we could find that orange kombi

YouTube- "Ask the Leyland Brothers" Theme Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On6yjlUur5A)

Ahhh I remember that t-shirt - very well :o;)




Thanks.
Yes I agree this Landy is not as valuable as its older brothers but the main reason I have endeavored to salvage it is it may be the only other one left in existence. Still will be interesting for some to see etc.
Funny thing was the Kombi went places:eek: They used to give it some:twisted:

I wonder if it will ever turn up?

[LandyAndy]

Nevermind the theme song.
That wet tee shirt was AWSOME:cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[bigbadwolf1966]

Nevermind the theme song.
That wet tee shirt was AWSOME:cool::cool::cool:
Andrew


LEYLAND BROTHERS MENS T-SHIRT - T-SHIRTS - MENS (http://klubretro.com/index.php/mens-1/t-shirts/leyland-brothers-official-mens-white-t-shirt.html)

just if anyone is interested in the t shirt without the contents...lol

[460cixy]

So what ended up happe ing with this vehicle any progress

[The ho har's]

Yes there is progress. though it is slow.

It is getting a 6cyl put back into it instead of the Holden donk it currently has:D

How do I know this?? I see it regularly:)

Mrs hh:angel:

[Landy Smurf]

what dd the leyland brothers have in it when they were driving it around?

[The ho har's]

what dd the leyland brothers have in it when they were driving it around?


Rover 6 I believe

Mrs hh:angel:

[460cixy]

Excellent that's good to hear

[ade30946x6]

It would be interesting to compile a list of the vehicles that Mike and Mal personally used during their popular and pioneering years on television and other film media and to identify what has happened to these vehicles, as far as is generally known, or rumoured. Here is a start:-

Land Rover Series 1 SWB - Unknown
Land Rover Series 1 LWB - Exists Birdwood Museum SA
Land Rover Series 2A SWB - Rumoured Scrapped at Cessnock NSW
Land Rover Series 2A LWB Tray - Unknown
Land Rover Series 2A LWB Safari - Exists NSW (subject of this thread)
Jeep CJ6
Jeep Wagoneer
Dodge Weapons Carrier Diesel powered - Exists Vic
VW Kombi
VW Kombi
Ford F100
Ford F100

[harry]

So, after reading this thread from the start, there still aren't any pictures of the outside of this vehicle.
As Pedro says, this thread is useless without pics!

[pop058]

request granted

[ramblingboy42]

i'm with you Harry. An hour behind you but I was going to make a similar comment.

I can understand why the Birdwood Museum dont want it.

[cuppabillytea]

I'm just checking in to see where this ends up.

[squizzyhunter]

Any updates? How's it coming along?

[The ho har's]

Last we saw it it was running well although it's brakes were a bit dodgy :) Ask Killer he thought I was going to run into the fence:D

Rangier Rover does get here much anymore, when we are next there I will take a more recent photo.

Mrs hh:angel:

[ade30946x6]

There is another thread on this.