Beware of a expensive 2nd hand red Defender Twin Cabs.

[JohnF]

A friend, John, wanted to take his Isuzu motor and gearbox out of his County, and put it into a Defender dual cab. And I was thinking I sould get his County and put my Isuzu and gearbox into it.

On a RFS Fire Brigade Training Day I had seen a couple of Red Defender Dual Cabs ex striker, Cat Nine, fire trucks with their motors out and in pieces sitting in pieces in the paddock of Yorklea Fire Control Centre, a few kilometres South of Casino, New South Wales. These had had their trays/tanks/pumps, etc. removed so were sitting there in just Cab & Chassis form. So I told John about these two Dual Cab Defenders.

The other day I rang John, and asked if he had purchased one of them. John told me that He went to Yorklea, but found they had been sold in a local Council Auction, one for $7000-- and one for around $8000-- . John said both had been under water in a flood, hence he would not have wanted to buy them anyway [No, I do not want to see your pictures of your snorkel sitting above the water with your Land Rover underwater to prove that there is nothing wrong with a Land Rover being under water].

So hopefully no one from this forum purchased these two Defenders, or if you did, realise they have been underwater, and you must now rust proof them.

Just thought I would share this just in case forum members do know the person who purchased these Defenders, so that he can be warned to rust proof them & check for and water in diffs, Swivel hubs, etc.

[BigJon]

[No, I do not want to see your pictures of your snorkel sitting above the water with your Land Rover underwater to prove that there is nothing wrong with a Land Rover being under water].

I do! :p:twisted:

[JohnF]

actually I do enjoy pictures of Land Rovers deliberately underwater [when they still are running] but I meant do not post one just to prove a LR can go under water.

[Bigbjorn]

If they had been immersed in salt water above the door sill level for any period or fresh water up to the dashboard or steering wheel for more than 48 hours then they should have been declared to be statutory write-offs.

The VINs of statutory write-offs are recorded by all registration authorities and can never be registered again. Do you have the VINs from the auction catalogue? If so, post them on here so members will recognise the vehicles.

[LandyAndy]

Brian
Its pretty unlikely that floods involve salt water,cant imagine they were on the beach enjoying the sand!!!
Andrew

[Bigbjorn]

Brian
Its pretty unlikely that floods involve salt water,cant imagine they were on the beach enjoying the sand!!!
Andrew

Andrew, strange as it may seem to someone from the waterless west, we do have salt water tidal rivers and estuaries over here. Anyway, if they were in a fresh water flood for 48 hours they are still a statutory write-off.

[V8Ian]

Andrew, strange as it may seem to someone from the waterless west, we do have salt water tidal rivers and estuaries over here. Anyway, if they were in a fresh water flood for 48 hours they are still a statutory write-off.
I have photos on my phone (wish I could get them off) of three triples simutaniously parked in the Nullagine River about 70 km east of Marble Bar. So much for the waterless west.

[JohnF]

If they had been immersed in salt water above the door sill level for any period or fresh water up to the dashboard or steering wheel for more than 48 hours then they should have been declared to be statutory write-offs.

The VINs of statutory write-offs are recorded by all registration authorities and can never be registered again. Do you have the VINs from the auction catalogue? If so, post them on here so members will recognise the vehicles.

I was not at the auction, sodo not have he catologue. certainly the engine looked very coroded, but I did not look that close when I saw them--probably in November. I was told the RFS was very happy to ge that much money for them. It wil help our RFS budget.

[scott oz]

..........................Anyway, if they were in a fresh water flood for 48 hours they are still a statutory write-off.


Curious, why are they automaticly statutory write-off's

[The ho har's]

actually I do enjoy pictures of Land Rovers deliberately underwater [when they still are running] but I meant do not post one just to prove a LR can go under water.



Look at my sig pic:D


Mrs hh:angel:

[Bigbjorn]

Curious, why are they automaticly statutory write-off's

A requirement of legislation.

Quote from the training manual.

"Definitions

Written-off vehicle
A vehicle is classified written-off when it has been in an accident, or suffered some form of water, fire or malicious damage. Written-off vehicles as either a statutory or repairable write-off.

Statutory write-off.
The vehicle is too badly damaged to be repaired to a standard that is safe for road use, therefor it is suitable only for use as parts or scrap. The vehicle's identification number (VIN/Chassis) will be recorded as a statutory write-off and the vehicle will not be allowed to be re-registered.

Repairable write-off
A repairable write-off has been assessed as uneconomical to repair. "

A repairable write-off will only be re-registered if it is repaired and passes a written-off vehicle inspection. A Safety Certificate (RWC) is required before the WOV inspection.

[flagg]

Curious, why are they automaticly statutory write-off's

To stop some poor sod from buying one not knowing that it was submerged in salt water and has only a few years to live (if that).

It would be too easy for a ******* of a person to buy a water damaged car up cheap, give it a wash and a service and sell it off without the buyer any the wiser... until the thing collapsed in a pile of rust.

flagg

[Bigbjorn]

All the stock at Leyland Truck & bus, Rocklea, trucks, bus chassis, Land Rovers, tractors, were submerged for about 5 days in the 1974 flood. All were sold "as is, where is, your risk, no warranty applies". This could not be done today as all would be statutory write-offs.

We often wondered what problems surfaced after a few years service.

The then proprietors of 4WD Hire Service, Jack Heap and Bob Beard, bought a swag of flood LR's for use in thier business. They did whatever refurbishment they thought necessary.

A couple of cane farmer brothers from Mackay bought a Boxer BX8 truck cab and chassis for their own use, and put it on the train to home. A few days later they were in contact to buy a couple more if any were still available. They sold the truck to a neighbour at a pretty good profit and had buyers waiting for more.

a North Qld. dealer bought all the farm tractors in one hit.