Embarrassment

[banjo]

Oh dear i think this is going to hurt...Where to start
Well i have been on a pension for a few years now because i have AGROPHOBIA servere panic disorder.i have trouble going out to the point where i have locked myself in the bathroom in colds sweats with my heart in my throat thinking i would passout or pee or crap myself..i also have done this when i have had people coming over to visit or in this case (people offering to come & help )..it has ruined my life & my immediate family (wife & kids)..you know we used to go up to our local bush (hillsborough ) when we had a nissan SWB kids loved it but it sometimes could take me an hour to get there & we only live literaly 5 min drive from it..
its been realy hard for us because our families think its a big joke .they seem to think its funny to take the micky out of me ..but 27 years of abuse mentaly,physically,mentaly sexualy..
So i dont deal with people to well cause if i have to leave or (hide)as such they dont understand so we just dont do it but its now realy taking its toll on the wife & kids..
we had to file bankrupt a few years back now & the way this rover is going it could send us there again..wife (karen is realy worried )
i had a friend who i used to do stuff with because he didnt care that if we where going some where if i needed to turn round & head for home he didnt say anything i would just settle myself down & then turnround again & keep going & catch up to him & this could happen a few times before i got there & sometime i couldnt get there but he was ok with it so we got on real good but he went & died on me & i have taken it hard & since then i havent been able to do anything realy & we used to go bush alot just for the day out to sugarloaf & out the back of glendale & up hillsborough man i miss those days we all had fun me the kids & wife plus my friend..we used to work for ourselves i am a diesel mechanic by trade havent touched tools since i done my trade 20 years ago but we used to wash & grease trucks that kept us going was good money cause we used to do about 20 trucks a week..
Now the best i do is going down to the local shops again 5min drive away but i do go for a walk round aldi the cheap shops & the paper shop gotta get me rover mags..but this rarely happens .karen does all my running around picking up parts & the like..
i seem to get on better with woman the shrink says its because most of the abuse i suffered was from my father..
hence the reason we only see a few family members ..
we thought it bout time i told use as we have had offers of help with the car..
dont know how i would handle it..but if it wasnt for karen i know i would be dead she saved me..
the best thing so far is my kids..
& i have to say i have never found so many people to offer to help when they havent even met us ..thats cool.
i can only hope that when the car is sorted i can get some part of our life back & start going back to the bush...
So we would like to say many many thanks to everyone who has offered to help...
Not trying to be sobby just thought if use new the problem it mite make it easier to understand why i cant except the offers of help but i (we) really appreciate them i dont know how i would handle people here for the time it could take...
THANKS Jason & Karen..

[Disco_owner]

Hang in there mate , I hope you get that part of your life back and start going camping with your family again and spending more time with them.:(

[justinc]

Mate that took a lot to post that here, and I for one applaud your honesty and guts, well done:)

If there is anything I can do to help with parts etc, just PM, there's no danger of ME visiting, we're too far away, but I can still send stuff:)

Keep moving ahead, and your other half and kids are a tower of strength and inspiration, well done as a family:)

Take care,

JC

[Ausfree]

Man, that took a HEAP of courage, you must be feeling pretty low at the moment and felt the need to get things off your chest. Is'nt it strange how some people can breeze through life, with very few problems as in they have a happy childhood, get married to a wonderful partner ( you sound like you have achieved that, mate with a great wife!), have a great job/career, the kids grow up and have successsful careers.

Mate, trust me, I can associate a lot with what you have said, as in:
1) Cruel father, mine used to beat the crap out of mum.
2) Bankruptcy, been there done that and still trying to recover even though it was ten years ago.
3) First wife dying at the age of 27 from a massive asthma attack leaving me with two kids aged six and one. This was in 1974 so it was some time ago.
4) Diagnosed with bowel cancer in 2004, I have recently been given the all clear, but it was very draining going through chemo and radio therapy.
Mate, I guess what I am trying to say, some of us get dealt a lousy deal in life's game of cards and it seems as soon as you get over one problem another surface's.

I can't help you with parts for your Landy, having trouble with mine at the moment too, (aarrgghh) as I am not too mechanically inclined. But unlike other forum users I only live ten minutes away, so if you need somebody to talk too, I can help in that department.
I know Aldi and the cheap shops at Cardiff well.:):)

[MickS]

You need to change the title of the thread to "Guts and Courage"...mate, only those that have really been in a position such as yourself can empathise with what you are going through. I am one of those, and still am suffering from the same things you do and more. Only problem is, I have no support from my ex- spouse - she walked out on the kids and I.

I can offer no advice....panic attacks are one of the most debilitating things that can happen to someone...just surround yourself with those that love you, communicate through forums such as this, trust your medical team and continue on your treatment plan - be it CBT, desensitization etc...good luck mate.

[WhiteD3]

Jason,

I read your post and understand your situation; my heart goes out to you and Karen.

My wife has had agoraphobia for 25 years. While its severity changes over time, depending on what's happening in our lives, its always there. Right now we can travel reasonably easy around the suburb but anything beyond that is a major exercise involving mental preparation and planning, and Xanax.

Going somewhere and having to turn around, lying to people about the reasons for not going to parties and functions, making excuses, not being able to maintain friendships (Bit hard to invite people over if you can reciprocate right?), yep been there done that, still there now. The people thing is most difficult aspect I think; if you're a good liar like me, people eventual think you're either antisocial or just plain don't like them, so they stop contacting you, when in reality the opposite is true. Even good friends lose patience or interest after a while.

I could write more but that'll only depress you and me even more, so hang in there is all I can say.

Mark

[banjo]

Jason,

I read your post and understand your situation; my heart goes out to you and Karen.

My wife has had agoraphobia for 25 years. While its severity changes over time, depending on what's happening in our lives, its always there. Right now we can travel reasonably easy around the suburb but anything beyond that is a major exercise involving mental preparation and planning, and Xanax.

Going somewhere and having to turn around, lying to people about the reasons for not going to parties and functions, making excuses, not being able to maintain friendships (Bit hard to invite people over if you can reciprocate right?), yep been there done that, still there now. The people thing is most difficult aspect I think; if you're a good liar like me, people eventual think you're either antisocial or just plain don't like them, so they stop contacting you, when in reality the opposite is true. Even good friends lose patience or interest after a while.

I could write more but that'll only depress you and me even more, so hang in there is all I can say.

Mark

EXACTLY you learn to hide it .no cure just have to try & manage it & live with it my doctor put me on tofranil for it ,it helps to a degree.but its so hard on karen as it would be for yourself..

[banjo]

i sit here reading all these replies good wishes would just like to say a big thank you even though we still low at the moment it helps to know that there are people who understand and who offer good wishes karen

[justinc]

i sit here reading all these replies good wishes would just like to say a big thank you even though we still low at the moment it helps to know that there are people who understand and who offer good wishes karen

Karen, Jason and family,

I understand a lot more now than I did before reading these posts about the impact this condition can have, and as a result wish you guys all the best and keep positive, a family together can overcome all sorts of challenges:)

Take care and best wishes,

JC

[LandyAndy]

Well done Jason.
Wishing you and your family all the best for the future.
Hope you get that old Landy sorted sooner than later.
Andrew

[Blknight.aus]

keep your eyes on the end of the trail and remember the fruit at the end of the harder track always tastes the sweeter.

[banjo]

THANKS everyone..
karen

[Gillie]

My mother had agoraphobia. from memory it started when I was around 6 or 7 years old. A single parent bringing up two kids with agoraphobia would of been pretty hard and reading your story made me reflect on my own. She wouldn't leave the house etc. I used to do the shopping on my bike when I was around 11 years old. She had a good friend that used to drop in for a coffee on a regular basis which helped alot I think. The turning point for her was two women came to stay with us from some agoraphobia group. I don't know why they came to stay with us, whether they helped Mum or really what the full story was but she gradually improved. It started in little steps where she could drive to the shops. There were times she would start to panic and would ask me to talk to her on the way home. Occasionly she didn't get to the shops. However, she got to the point where she could drive perhaps up to a 15 km radius from home. One time we went to Yamba for a holiday which involved a 2 day trip on a train. Whether she suffered any attacks or not only she would know. She passed away when I was 14 (thats about 20 years ago) so I can't ask her about it :( .
I doubt she fully recovered but got to a point where it didn't create too much of a problem. I beleive she helped others with agoraphobia as a contact or councellor spending time on the phone talking to others.
Searching google came up with Agoraphobia (http://www.tne.net.au/~swag/) Whilst I don't think the name is the same as the group that helped mum the symbol looks familiar so maybe they had a name change.
Being young at the time I never fully understood. But I reckon Families are good. All the best and thanks for sharing your story.

[WhiteD3]

Gillie,

Thanks for the link, I don't know if my Mrs has been there but I'll pass it on.

Cheers.

[Gillie]

Well worth a look.

This website
http://www.angelfire.com/ab3/agoraphobiaaustralia/start.html
has some fascinating stories from 5 agoraphobia sufferers. For anyone wanting to understand agoraphobia and what people go through they are all a MUST read.

[banjo]

thanx gillie we been on that first site thismorning & will have a look at the other soon..first we've seen of then the first is good thow...

[banjo]

Well managed to get out to bilo today i sat in the car while karen went & picked up a few things ,i think i should of stayed at home the heat plays havic with my medication drys me out big time ....ah well atleast i got out ...

[WhiteD3]

Well managed to get out to bilo today i sat in the car while karen went & picked up a few things ,i think i should of stayed at home the heat plays havic with my medication drys me out big time ....ah well at least i got out ...

Banjo, I always thought (rightly or wrongly) that the key to controlling this thing is desensitisation. To explain; there was a time early on when I thought someone or something would come along and cure this thing in SWMBO, or that she'd grow out of it over time (she was 22 when it first started, 47 now). Neither happened. My theory was that if she put herself through trigger situations she would eventually overcome it.

More recently I've come to accept (not like, not happy, but accepting) the fact that she'll always have it and so I've modified my theory, from desensitisation to "confidence". My theory is that she slowly but frequently (say every weekend) hop in the car with others (me and the kids mainly) and drive somewhere. Working up from just round the block, to the local shops, to a park, down the coast, etc. My idea being that she build confidence in her ability to deal with the symptoms (by this I mean stay in control) through preparation and self-monitoring.

Like all things mental though, it works when you're feeling happy, well and confident, but can be a major setback if you "fail".

Recently this approach has seen some improvement but there's years of work ahead of her.

I'm blabbering on about all this to simply say "good on ya" for getting out. Keep doing it! Panic attacks won't kill you (Easy for me to say!) but you can draw some satisfaction in doing these things, and hence the confidence for next time. No doubt you'll say "where's the achievement? Anybody else does this without thinking about it". True, but what other people can do or not do doesn't help you, does it?

I've read the above a couple of times and I'm not sure the tone is right but its meant to be happy and helpful.

Anyway, cheers.

Mark

[banjo]

Hi Mark just read what you said & i wouldnt take anything you say as sarcasim or malice as you are dealing with the same problem...i only put it up here that i went out because of the positive feedback i was given by all ,this is the first time i have let anyone know about it with the exception of peter haylock (the guru) from kotara if it wasnt for karen & the guru i would never have got this car done..
i will keep posting on here when i manage to go out as the feedback is helping & by just letting everyone on here know has been of great help to build confidence in myself so karen says since telling on here i have tried to push myself a little bit as i would love to be able to go 4x4 ing with some of use at some stage & possibly camping..

PSSSSSSSSSSSS whats a SWMBO i am sure it meens wife ..
ps i have just come back from picking up our papers & pamphlets just to prove to myself i can deal with the heat well sort of by the time we got back i was drenched the damn tablets do this to me i can dehydrate in minutes..
i am more worried the car wont start since it did it to karen that should be fun if or when that happens dont know how i will handle that ,but i still drive it i wont drive karens 4runner that would be easy ....:eek::D
now i have to sit for about 6hrs & fold the papers & pamphlets sounds like fun hey ,,,,NOT but it does put fuel in the cars for us....

[Landy Smurf]

it always helps to tell people(so i have found out) my heart sank for more then one reason when i was reading your post. :( the thing that gets me through the best is. you only have one life it is yours so live it well

[bblaze]

SWMBO - she who must be obeyed
doing well, congrats
cheers
blaze

[Fusion]

Keep your chin up and try to stay positive mate . It can be very hard at times . Take care and be happy :) . Can always send a PM for a chat if you need it ;) .

[Landy Smurf]

SWMBO - she who must be obeyed
doing well, congrats
cheers
blaze
thats funny because wife is shorter to type

[DiscoMick]

You're showing a lot of courage just by posting here - well done. I don't have any personal contact with this problem so reading this certainly helps my understanding.
I did have one moment of panic standing on a really busy street corner in Bangkok several years ago feeling very overwhelmed by it all, but I'm not sure if thats the same thing as you're talking about.
Does being able to communicate using the Internet without leaving home make it easier?
Keep going - most people are actually sympathetic I think once they understand this is real.

[Chops]

Well done Banjo mate,, I've seen some couragous people in my time,, but you've got this one,,,
I've read this thread from top to bottom, we certainly have some amazing members here thats for sure,, Thanks to all of you for sharing stories/advice.
I wish this had been here to read two years ago when my mother suffered panic attacks just before her death,, I was so lost on what to do, and when you get a call from 400k's away its hard to deal with as I felt totally helpless.

Good luck and God bless you both,,,keep up the good work,,:)

PS,,, for the heat,,, wet towels and lots of water maybe (??),,

[banjo]

THANX discmick & chops the internet has helped a little bit but this site has been the best for me as we all share the same comman intersts,& in the last weeks since i have told everyone here has done so much for me use will never know how much, again thanx to everyone from all of us here Jason Karen Fred (micayla) Boy (cody)..
Hey chops the wet tshirts & singlets help round home as we dont have aircon just the portable fans to push the hot air around...but karen brought me one of those water bottle thingys you put on your back for biking or hiking that we had forgoten about & found just resently so i am going to fill it up & put it in the freezer & use that going to put it on the back of the drivers seat with the hose coming round to the front we think that mite help...
i realy want to get back to our local bush with the kids they love it up there we find old car bonets & doors & the kids drag them up the hills & slid down it great fun to do & watch..
our local bush is hillsborough.

[banjo]

OH yeah i actualy went & helped karen deliver the post & paphlets today aswell ,well i drove & karen threw but it took bout 40mins.. so thats a hat trick for me out 3 times in one day..
i couldnt of done that without this site & everyones good & encouging feedback...i'm on a roll..

[Ausfree]

Mate, glad to hear that you are trying to help yourself and not sitting on your arse complaining about it, keep going and the best of luck to you and your family, I really mean that!!!!:):)

[Gillie]

great to hear of some milestones being acheived! great effort.

[Landy Smurf]

i no that you said that you are not up for meeting people(well at least at the moment) but you sound like the kind of top bloke i would want to be around have chinways with :)

[Sleepy]

G'day Jason,
I have a family member that has panic attacks. We take it one day at a time (geez sounds like I'm in a footy team ;)). Two steps forward, one step back.

Keep working with your experts and surround yourself with those you love and trust.

Good onya for facing it.

Come and talk land rovers when your feeling crap - always makes me feel better.:)

[banjo]

Hey sleepy its funny how landys seem to make people happy even when they are coing wrong,

[Ausfree]

Hey sleepy its funny how landys seem to make people happy even when they are coing wrong,
Boy, is my Landy going wrong, been off the road for three weeks after it cracked an Auto Transmission cooler, hope to pick it up tomorrow from the mechanics at Edgy, I am bracing myself for the final bill!!!:o

[banjo]

Yep i'm waiting for the step back i know it will come something will set it off & i will take 2 steps back happens all the time just have to deal with it..
BUT on a brighter note i had a huge step forward today i went out but it was with a differance i went on my own i got bored while karen went shopping so i got the rover out & went for a drive ,i only went down the road to cardiff bilo then went round to aldi , i thought if i seen karens car at one of them i would stop & go in but today she desided to shop at glendale,,so i did a few laps of cardiff then came home..i tell ya i couldnt get me head in the door when i got home was on to much of a high..:clap2::arms::burnrubber::banana::banana:
i know its sound dumb but i havent gone out on my own for many years..
maybe i should give this site my medicare number as use have done & boosted my confidance more in just over a week than any shink has done in years.. i stoped seeing them years ago..
the doc says since i dont do well with people inperson that i should try & build some friends over the phone get to trust them & then maybe try & meet or have them over for ten mins & slowly work the time they stay for a vist each time, up till they could stay for an hour ,but that wont work as i hate talking on the phone i wont even talk to karen for more than 5 min at most.....plus when people are here (the little family i see) i keep walking out & in its just a nurvous thing,& i am to embarrest to say to anyone that i am nurvous & its time to go....
i think its just the male thing i have trouble with as most of it came from my father...
KAREN has come up with a novel idea if anyone is interested,I use to text my friend all the time allday till he died ,i still cant belive he went & done that silly old bugga..he was in his 70s i spose..
anyway karen said why not text people for a while see where it gets me & build some friendships build some trust..
as friends & friendship is new to me..it took years to trust old tom before he died..
ALTHOUGH i have started calling all use on here my friends wen i talk to karen bout the site..

[DiscoMick]

Well done. Keep going.
You can use the internet as a safe way to establish contact with people. Has worked well for my father in law who is completely deaf but has a lot of contacts online. It has really widened his life right out.

[Blknight.aus]

ahh wrong pane

[justinc]

Yep i'm waiting for the step back i know it will come something will set it off & i will take 2 steps back happens all the time just have to deal with it..
BUT on a brighter note i had a huge step forward today i went out but it was with a differance i went on my own i got bored while karen went shopping so i got the rover out & went for a drive ,i only went down the road to cardiff bilo then went round to aldi , i thought if i seen karens car at one of them i would stop & go in but today she desided to shop at glendale,,so i did a few laps of cardiff then came home..i tell ya i couldnt get me head in the door when i got home was on to much of a high..:clap2::arms::burnrubber::banana::banana:
i know its sound dumb but i havent gone out on my own for many years..
maybe i should give this site my medicare number as use have done & boosted my confidance more in just over a week than any shink has done in years.. i stoped seeing them years ago..
the doc says since i dont do well with people inperson that i should try & build some friends over the phone get to trust them & then maybe try & meet or have them over for ten mins & slowly work the time they stay for a vist each time, up till they could stay for an hour ,but that wont work as i hate talking on the phone i wont even talk to karen for more than 5 min at most.....plus when people are here (the little family i see) i keep walking out & in its just a nurvous thing,& i am to embarrest to say to anyone that i am nurvous & its time to go....
i think its just the male thing i have trouble with as most of it came from my father...
KAREN has come up with a novel idea if anyone is interested,I use to text my friend all the time allday till he died ,i still cant belive he went & done that silly old bugga..he was in his 70s i spose..
anyway karen said why not text people for a while see where it gets me & build some friendships build some trust..
as friends & friendship is new to me..it took years to trust old tom before he died..
ALTHOUGH i have started calling all use on here my friends wen i talk to karen bout the site..

Awesome stuff:D:D:D

ANYTIME you feel the need to chat, is a good time:) The ownership and interest we all share in a commonaliy such as Landrovers etc is a rare thing these days, can do people a lot of good feeling linked in a type of community. This place has its ups and downs and its side to sides too, but overall can give way more than it takes:):)

Keep it up !

JC

[banjo]

ahh wrong pane













dave i will give you a text msg .threw the day..

[Sleepy]

Nice work Jason,
Don't forget...phone, text or AULRO.COM :D:D:D
Maybe next time you go for a drive you could take some pictures for us.
We have a rule you see - It doesn't happen without pictures.:ohyes:

You don't have to show us your face but we love landy pics or maybe a nice sunset or something....ok maybe not the bilo carpark :lol2:....unless it's full of land rovers.....hahahaha

It's easy to post up photos when you get the hang of it.

[LandyAndy]

Good to hear Banjo.
ENJOY
Andrew

[DiscoMick]

My local Bunnings car parks seems to be the place to find Landys.:cool: Maybe its the DIY thing.

[justinc]

My local Bunnings car parks seems to be the place to find Landys.:cool: Maybe its the DIY thing.

:eek::eek: err, with or without the keys in the ignition???:wasntme::p

JC

[banjo]

My local Bunnings car parks seems to be the place to find Landys.:cool: Maybe its the DIY thing.



Karen said thats same out at glendale..

[banjo]

just got told i am an idiot again ,karen said if people are going to text you ,did you give then a number, ah no.idiot..
if anyone want to text the number is 0000000000..
hey dave i put you in me fone as dave from ipswich..


just noticed when we post it shows up in the right hand top where we from & how many post made & thanx & thanked but not our age...????????

[AnD3rew]

Hey Banjo

Have you ever tried Hypnotherapy? not sure how well it works with Agoraphobia, but I had a terrrible fear of flying which was getting to the panic attack stage, which was a bugger because I have to fly a lot for work. I went to see a Psychologist who practises hypnotherapy, it didn't cure me immediately but I got progressively better from that point on and now I actually enjoy flying.

Just make sure if you do try it to use a qualified psychologist as there are a fe wdodgy hypnotherapists out there with suspect qualifications.

[banjo]

Na havent tryed it but its something we can look into...

[Sleepy]

just got told i am an idiot again ,karen said if people are going to text you ,did you give then a number, ah no.idiot..
if anyone want to text the number is 0411089444..
hey dave i put you in me fone as dave from ipswich..


just noticed when we post it shows up in the right hand top where we from & how many post made & thanx & thanked but not our age...????????


My wife calls me an idiot all the time. It's a love-hate thing :lol2:

If you click on the username it will take you to each persons profile. If they enter their age you can see it there.

We are all pretty young (at heart?) :angel:

[JohnF]

just got told i am an idiot again ,karen said if people are going to text you ,did you give then a number, ah no.idiot..
if anyone want to text the number is 0411089444..
hey dave i put you in me fone as dave from ipswich..


just noticed when we post it shows up in the right hand top where we from & how many post made & thanx & thanked but not our age...????????

I am just about the only person in Australia with no mobile phone, and I am rarely near my home phone, but if you would like to have a chat via E-mail I would love to have a talk with you. My e-mail is "johnfry48@hotmail dot com."

Many of us have some sort of irrational fear. I was too scared to ask a girl out on a date--scared of rejection, so did not find any one to marry me until I was 37. Never took a girl on a date in my whole life.

[wardy1]

Hey Banjo, this thread is fantastic and reading through it we can all see just a hint of a smile on that mystery face I'm sure.
My wife suffered this sometime ago and she ended up learning to cope with it in much the same way you are. We found that setting a SMALL goal for the day every day worked wonders. She had many setbacks though...many a time I'd get a call to go and fetch her from somewhere or whatever. Try to keep the sense of humour too.
Your wife is a wonderful lady, and the kids too.

BTW, after about a year of this, she was able to let go of the drugs and has been great for the last 15 years now although she does suffer depression which she takes treatment for.

Good luck mate. Hope we meet in the bush one day.

[banjo]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/sdc10022q.jpg/)
THANX Jason & Karen

[banjo]

Karens going to shoot me for that.since that pics karen has had her lip & eyebrow pieced..

[p38arover]

:eek::eek: err, with or without the keys in the ignition???:wasntme::p

JC

When we lived on Norfolk Island we often left keys in the ignition - as did many others.

One night I drove my wife's car to the airport to see off a visitor. When I got home, my wife asked where was her car. "In the driveway", I replied.

She then told me that wasn't her car. It wasn't. :( Same brand, different model - a Corolla. Ours was a Starlet.

So back to the airport to swap it for our car.

[dullbird]

When we lived on Norfolk Island we often left keys in the ignition - as did many others.

One night I drove my wife's car to the airport to see off a visitor. When I got home, my wife asked where was her car. "In the driveway", I replied.


She then told me that wasn't her car. It wasn't. :( Same brand, different model - a Corolla. Ours was a Starlet.

So back to the airport to swap it for our car.

Thats funny:D

Should of kept it less likely to be faulty:lol2:

[banjo]

I have allways left the keys in the rover just on the floor .its to slow no1 would pinch it cause we could catch upto them on foot..

[Sleepy]

You look like a banjo player too Jason.

Have you still got all your teeth...hehehehehe.

I play 6 string guitar (badly) we should hook up and do some deliverance songs.

De, d, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dah.

:D:D:D

[banjo]

I still have a few teeth let ,i have all the front ones atleast....:eek2::no2::bangin::bangin::BigCry:

[twitchy]

You should be pleased with yourself for posting what you have. It is a big step telling people & a big achievement. I live with a Bi-Polar wife & I can tell you sometimes it's hard but ALWAYS worth it. Hell man if you can put up with a Land Rover..........:wasntme:

I hope your other half has read this thread & sees what great support you are getting from the great people here.

[banjo]

The surport i have recieved from this site is awsome i have never had so much surport ever before..
Karen has read them all & has posted in here as well .she has found the surport great aswell & is glad i finaly told everyone on here because its worked the best thing so far....
THANX Jason & Karen...

[Narangga]

Been busy and only just got back on the site and discovered the thread.

They say a trouble shared is a trouble halved. Thanks for having the G&D to share yours. If us sharing it has gone someway to halving it for you then the site has given us all darn good value.

Great to hear you are still able to use the Landie.

I was going to say something about the fiesty redhead in the photo with you but as you've been giving her a good wrap them maybe I won't! :wasntme:

Am a long way from where you are but if I get down that way I'll make contact to find out if we can catch up.

Keep the forum up to date on how you go long term too.

[DiscoMick]

I think my Landy isa bit bipolar - it certainly displays a variety of temperments. :D

[banjo]

A little insite as to how jason has got to the stage he is uptill i got with him & after i got with him.
when he was of crawling age he was smashed in the head by a sledge hammer as his father was a truck driver & had his own trucks & was fixing his trailer boards with him crawling around on it.thats what hes been told..
when he was about 5 or 6 his grandad dropped a claw hammer off the roof of the house sconed him in the side of the head & shoulder..
when he was 7 or 8 his parents thought it was time for him to read where did i come from cause they made his sister read it so they made him go to their room & read it but after about 10 or 15 mins at it his old man screamed at him to ask questions about it because his sister had read it & couldnt understand it so he wouldnt be able to either so they made him talk about it & ask questions.....(in depth)..
All the time telling him you never talk back to your elders & especially your parents,,,,that was told to him over & over till it brainwashed him..
when he was about 9 they used to strip him off then put him out a window naked & lock the house up except the front door so he had to run round the front so everyone could see him butt naked & screeming to get in.(they must of thought it was entertaining)...
then his parents split when he was 12 or 13 he was left alone for awhile as he lived with his mum & stepdad...
BUT his father got hold of him again when he was staying over every second weekend & eventually talked him in to beliving that his mother wanted him to leave & live with him..
As soon as that happend he was made to work so he could bring in more money to support his fathers sex & drinking habit i think
His father sat jason & his stepbrother down at the table for a sexual talk & when finished gave them both a rubber & said try these, they both threw them out & about a week later his father went right off his tits because they never came back to tell them how they used them or what they thought about them in detail..so his stepbrother left to live with his dad after that..thats a weird story just there as 2 couples knew each other & just swaped wives.so he knew his step brother & sisters before they became his steps..
jason used to date a larger girl at this time & his father & step mum thought jason said she was older thats why he never asked her over so they said they could show him how to treat an older woman as in do this & do that so that girl didnt last long he got rid of her before they could do anything to him or her..
there is a lot more that happend back then but thats all i know as he doesnt talk about that time ..
Then i came along that didnt go down well as i took jasons attention away from him...
So his father would get out his stick magz when i was there & say hey look at these then he would think jason & i would tell him bout our sex life .NOT..
but then i found out he would blow up at jason bigtime because we wouldnt tell him in detail what we where up to..
Then jason & i where in a car smash jason was hurt & was supposed to take time off work but no they made him go when he got there the boss asked him where his car was & he told them what happend ,They sent him home because they didnt want him to hurt himself more & make life bad for them,,when he got home his father went off big time again what the f are you doing home he told them what work said & all his dad said was well that bitch ain,t coming over if you are home because your hurt.mind you he poped his sholder out & broke 4 ribs & busted his wrist in the smash T boned in a mini,,,so his father got him to help work on his sisters car (mini) with busted gearbox so it had to come out no tools for the job just lifted it out...
Then we decided to move out.. well that went down like a lead balloon, as long as its not that bitches idea he said to jason..
So we moved out but jason still ran after them till he was about 26 or 7 because he had been brainwashed to think he had to...then we had kids & all changed we cut ties with his parents & have been working through it since then.. now at 38..So the kids had seen this for bout 6 years..
Anyway thats just a little bit of how he is why he is nowdays,there is a lot more to tell but this will help you all understand how it all came about...
THANKYOU KAREN
I stuck with him because ,well you can work that out we have been together for 22 years now..
you know once he sees this he will go & hide cause he will be thinking what if someone on here knows his father & goes & tells him,,Well i dont give a flying fruit let them..thats just another part of his problem.
PS say what you like bout the red head in the photo i will just give it back twice as much...:wasntme:

[banjo]

btw the cars name is cristine i told jason over an over in the rebuild this car is possesed everytime we fixed something on it something else went wrong so i decided to name it this from that old bad taste movie thanks karen

[Sleepy]

:eek2:


Karen,
I initially wrote a lot of sympathetic twaddle but not really sure what to say other than you sound like someone who really cares.
We can never undo the past, but we can leave it behind us, and look to the future.

Jason,
Sounds to me like you have a very fine friend/partner/confidant/helper.....


P.S. I know never to pick on rangas!:D

P.P.S. I think we need to change the name of this thread - Embaressment usually relates to "guilt" of which you should have none Jason.

[p38arover]

Jason has no reason to be embarrassed. I commend him for his strength in talking about it on the forum.

My hat's off to you, too, Karen.

Re your post, I'm gob-smacked that someone would have been treated like that. :mad:

[banjo]

OMG what have you done to me fatty..:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[banjo]

:eek2:


Karen,
I initially wrote a lot of sympathetic twaddle but not really sure what to say other than you sound like someone who really cares.
We can never undo the past, but we can leave it behind us, and look to the future.

Jason,
Sounds to me like you have a very fine friend/partner/confidant/helper.....


P.S. I know never to pick on rangas!:D

P.P.S. I think we need to change the name of this thread - Embaressment usually relates to "guilt" of which you should have none Jason.


na na na make sure use go out of your way to pay her off that way she can pick on use for awile & not me LOL..

[DiscoMick]

Some shocking stories in there. Some people should not be allowed to have children.
Jason, sounds like you're a very lucky man to have Karen by your side.
Don't be embarrassed. Facing the past is part of going forward. Keep going.

[banjo]

i delivered the papers & paphlets again this week just to get soaked karen toymotor leaks like a sieve.....
windows in the rover dont wind down yet & its to hard for karen to throw the bags out the window...

[wardy1]

Geez.... all that dough on all those 'medico's' and drugs....the cure was in your driveway LOL.

Thanks for the sms's Jason :eek:

Karen's post was certainly enlightening....to say the least. Hey Karen, you are a special kind of girl. The world needs more like you.

I know this thread will be helping a few others on the forum. Of that you can be proud Jason and Karen.

[Sleepy]

Banjo,
I'd like to hear more about your Land Rover too.:angel: Is that it in your avatar pic?

[banjo]

Geez.... all that dough on all those 'medico's' and drugs....the cure was in your driveway LOL.

Thanks for the sms's Jason :eek:

Karen's post was certainly enlightening....to say the least. Hey Karen, you are a special kind of girl. The world needs more like you.

I know this thread will be helping a few others on the forum. Of that you can be proud Jason and Karen.

THANX wardy i have a heap of those rude picture jokes somewhere on me phone as soon as i find them i'll send them on,damn new phone still trying to work it out..
KAREN is very special to me she is my best friend .
our daughter (fred) was starting to ge panick attacks last year if it wasnt for karen seeing it coming it could of been real bad .After visiting a doc & shrink a couple of times she was fine ,they think it was just a learned thing from growing up watching me go threw it..but she is fine now...
we think it was because she was stressed at school & proved an easy way to get out of school...

[banjo]

G'day sleepy the one in my avatar pic is my last one it was a 69 2a ,that was my baby i loved that car it done everything we asked it to do & only every broke twice once was a short rear half shaft & the accelarater cable in the mainstreet of cardiff,droveit on the choke to get it round the corner & off the road..
we only sold it because karen couldnt drive it no power steering & non syncro box...
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6825/landrover006.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/landrover006.jpg/)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6916/landrover007.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/landrover007.jpg/)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1033/landrover016.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/landrover016.jpg/)


this one is our curent one it has the holden blue 202 & full power steering .steering box is off a toyota 60 series ...
is going real good now was over heating we thought but it was just the sender not beeing compatable with the dash gauge now it just run an electic temp gauge & is fine ...
I dont get to drive this one much cant seem to get karens bum out of the drivers seat she loves it & tells everyone its her car..
It looks a little differant now it has the sill protectors (sliders) fitted...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/p280409124001.jpg/)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/p2804091240.jpg/)
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2076/421p.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/421p.jpg/)

I'm looking forward to getting this one out & dirty.
if karen ever leaves it home long enuff..LOL

[banjo]

Does anyone fill in there profile we where wondering the names & age of the people who have been chating in this thread karen doesnt think the younger members would understand but i think its more likely to be across the board..

[banjo]

Paul the build pics are here if you interested but there is alot 400+


Pictures by mebanjo - Photobucket (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg122/mebanjo/)

[seano87]

Jason and Karen,

I commend both of you for your courage and openess in discussing what you both have throughout this thread. I think there is no need for embarrassment, I wish I could be just half as strong and resilient as both of you sound as though you are.

In regards to the background info you posted a couple of days ago Karen, I admire the strength it must have taken for you to keep sticking around for Jason, you sound like 2 amazing people who definitely seem great for each other. I can understand a little what it would feel like to have been through all that you both endured, as my cousin (same age as me) went through a very violent upbringing, fueled with alcohol, drugs and sex, and in many ways not too disimilar to what you described, although I recognise every case is individual, and Jason's certainly sounds a bit worse.

At the end of the day, you are both amazing people, who have done a fine job of making a great life together, and I can only wish both of you the best of luck in continuining to make progress together, and I would like to thank you both, you've certainly inspired me as to what the stregth and power of humanity can be.

Seano

PS I'm a young-un Jason, 22. And a Ranga. :p

[Dmmos]

Jason and Karen,

I commend both of you for your courage and openess in discussing what you both have throughout this thread. I think there is no need for embarrassment, I wish I could be just half as strong and resilient as both of you sound as though you are.

In regards to the background info you posted a couple of days ago Karen, I admire the strength it must have taken for you to keep sticking around for Jason, you sound like 2 amazing people who definitely seem great for each other. I can understand a little what it would feel like to have been through all that you both endured, as my cousin (same age as me) went through a very violent upbringing, fueled with alcohol, drugs and sex, and in many ways not too disimilar to what you described, although I recognise every case is individual, and Jason's certainly sounds a bit worse.

At the end of the day, you are both amazing people, who have done a fine job of making a great life together, and I can only wish both of you the best of luck in continuining to make progress together, and I would like to thank you both, you've certainly inspired me as to what the stregth and power of humanity can be.

Seano

PS I'm a young-un Jason, 22. And a Ranga. :p

X2 - although without the cousin...

And DEFINITELY no ranga :angel: (I won't even dignify it with a capital R :p)

[banjo]

whats wrong with rangas our son cody is a true ranga as well this is from karen :)


http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/271/img0027tm.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/img0027tm.jpg/)


hes cute hey

[Dmmos]

whats wrong with rangas our son cody is a true ranga as well this is from karen :)


lol - fair enough...

[banjo]

Well i have to be honest guys i have nearly been in tears & Karen has been in tears reading everyones good ,posotive,encouragement..We have never had any sort of surport except from the doc..use have all boosted my conferdance so much & have helped karen it is incredable not one of our family on both side have ever done this at all.. i read karens post where she had told use a little about what has happened to me , i felt so small,, that is just a very small amount,because i find it hard to tell anyone even karen..
A couple of use have sms't me & i have added use to my phone with karen & the kids & my cousin that i see (thats how i met karen @ my cousins 16th bday party)..Witch is good as i told karen i now have friends i hope this is ok. (never had that before) once in high school but my parents soon scared him off....so this friendship thing is new & very exciteing for me..
I also class everyone on here as friends & i'm slowly remembering names & nicknames & seem to be on here more & more & greatly enjoying it..
i am using this thread as a sort of diary as to when i have been out & what i have done so if i start to bore use just say so...
WE CANT SAY THANKYOU ENUFF FOR YOUR HELP & SURPORT TO EVERYONE..
Thanx Jason & Karen

[bblaze]

Hi
I dont think you ever need to thank us/me or other users (speaking for myself here I suppose), I think it is us that needs to thank you, There is so much to learn form hearing other peoples stories.
So I thank you for telling yours
cheers
blaze

[Sleepy]

Nice Land Rovers Jason:cool:

Maybe you could think about a little tour in the bush, I'm probably a little too far, but I'm sure there is a few Sydney/Newcastle guys/gals that would be happy to join you for a day in the bush. No need to say yes or no but when you feel like it just let it be known that you are keen and I'm sure you'll get a couple of takers who know that area well.

I recall driving north from Wiseman's Ferry in the 1980's on a nice track - (Someone help me here:D) - but I'm sure there are lots of other fun tracks in your area.

Another thing I'm sure would be of interest to many of the series drivers here is your power steering set up - Maybe you could post up a few photos of your setup. You could start a new thread on this subject if you feel like it. I'm sure you'll get some interest.

Anyway, I'm enjoying reading your thread and echo bblazes comments.
Your not alone Jason.:ohyes:


P.S. I'm 47 (on the outside!:D)

[Ausfree]

G'Day again Jason, I put a posting in earlier on about life dealing some people lousy cards to play with, then I thought I had better back off as you really don't need to hear my life's story and problems on top of your own even though I have also been through a lot I don't suffer as badly as you do,though I do get down in the dumps when bad memories overwhelm me at times, you really don't need to hear about my problems when you have enough for several people.
I then had a look at your mebanjo site, MMMAATTE, what you are doing with your beloved Landies is incredible, keep it up I am impressed, being a local I recognise the houses in the background at Cardiff where you live but there is no way I would impose myself on you. I hope to meet you on Stockton Beach or some other place someday, thats if I can get my bloody Freelander going again.
By the way as far as age is concerned, I am an old bloke, in my 60's.:D:D

[banjo]

G'Day again Jason, I put a posting in earlier on about life dealing some people lousy cards to play with, then I thought I had better back off as you really don't need to hear my life's story and problems on top of your own even though I have also been through a lot I don't suffer as badly as you do,though I do get down in the dumps when bad memories overwhelm me at times, you really don't need to hear about my problems when you have enough for several people.
I then had a look at your mebanjo site, MMMAATTE, what you are doing with your beloved Landies is incredible, keep it up I am impressed, being a local I recognise the houses in the background at Cardiff where you live but there is no way I would impose myself on you. I hope to meet you on Stockton Beach or some other place someday, thats if I can get my bloody Freelander going again.
By the way as far as age is concerned, I am an old bloke, in my 60's.:D:D

hi ausfree what side of the lake do you live on,on my side or toronto side..
if you go past my place & i am out the front in the shed give us a toot & wave i mite just wale to get you back for a quick chat.
i will keep an eye out for a freelander.(clatons )the landrover you have when you dont have a series.but thats just because we cant aford one LOL..

[banjo]

This is what it looks like now..
side steps fitted
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/sdc10552x.jpg/)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/582/sdc10551.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/sdc10551.jpg/)


http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8742/sdc10548b.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/sdc10548b.jpg/)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/sdc10547w.jpg/)

i got this DIY window tint from supercheap its limo tint its good stuff & easy to do just have to take your time with it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/sdc10549c.jpg/)

[Ausfree]

G'Day mate, love yer Landie. Yeah I live at Cameron Park and my Freelander is at the local mechanics at Edgeworth, though it should by now be at ALL4X4 having the ECU problems sorted out. Seriously thinking about getting rid of it as the transmission is sure to fail now because coolant has gotten into it and this no doubt will cost big dollars on top of the big dollars I am expecting to pay for what has been done so far. the Freelander suited us because the wife didn't want a large fourby to manouvre around shopping centre car parks. Which means, sadly we go back to a conventional car. Would like to get a Disco 2 TD5 but she who must be obeyed says, "too big". We can only afford one car and it must be a reliable one as my wife's elderly parents are still alive and need transport for medical appointments and to do the weekly shopping.

It really is a shame because bodywise the Freelander is in excellent condition and as far as I can tell has never been offroad, thats why we bought it, but unfortunately I didn't do enough research before I bought it (I knew the petrol 1.8's where a money pit, but I didn't realise the V6's are also bad news) I should have bought a diesel.:( I am much wiser now but sadly I am going to be much poorer.:(

[banjo]

hey aus peter haylock is pretty good it mite not be to expensive..i use to have a 308 holden with a turbo 400 auto box it got full of coolant from radiator split twice the first time we changed out the radiator & flushed the box 6 times..we filled it up with fluid drove it for 20 min using all gears then changed the fluid & it was fine..the second time wasnt so lucky but when we pulled it out we had a look after striping out .we just fully manualised it, put in new seals filters & it never had a problem after that also put a custom rad in it..
Once you get the ECU sorted you mite be able to flush it a few time & change the filters & it mite be ok...
We cross our fingers for you..
but if use do sell before you buy something take your wife & get her to drive a disco & take her to a carpark to try..She mite be ok & if you dont lift it your inlaws should be able to get in..
we have a very elderly couple a few doors down that we help they treat our kids like grandkids & the kids call them granny & sandy....
they are able to get into karen old 4runner only just & karen runs them every where..

[banjo]

hey aus peter haylock is pretty good it mite not be to expensive..i use to have a 308 holden with a turbo 400 auto box it got full of coolant from radiator split twice the first time we changed out the radiator & flushed the box 6 times..we filled it up with fluid drove it for 20 min using all gears then changed the fluid & it was fine..the second time wasnt so lucky but when we pulled it out we had a look after striping out .we just fully manualised it, put in new seals filters & it never had a problem after that also put a custom rad in it..
Once you get the ECU sorted you mite be able to flush it a few time & change the filters & it mite be ok...
We cross our fingers for you..
but if use do sell before you buy something take your wife & get her to drive a disco & take her to a carpark to try..She mite be ok & if you dont lift it your inlaws should be able to get in..
we have a very elderly couple a few doors down that we help they treat our kids like grandkids & the kids call them granny & sandy....
they are able to get into karen old 4runner only just & karen runs them every where..

i think they are in there late 80s

[Ausfree]

Yeah, I do live in hope about the tranny on the freelander, my wifes parents are quite elderly, the old fella is 90 and still quite active and my mother in law is mid 80's and very short. She uses a small step to get into the Freelander so I think for that reason alone she might have problems getting into a Disco.:) I have all sorts of advice from the tranny WILL fail right through to what you are saying, in other words flush it several times and change the filter!!!!

[banjo]

Well the car is going real good apparently ,,karens had it out allday without a problem ..

[Fluids]

Sorry 'bout the hijacking, but ...

Ausfree. Take your wife out and MAKE her drive a D2 AUTO TD5.

My wife said the same thing. The D2 was the second choice on the list, because we were getting a Subaru Forester!! (nice car actually:) ) ...

Anyway, when we were looking at the Subi', I happened to comment when we lifted the tailgate that "there's NO way I can fit a guitar in this boot!" ... that started the ("no sweetheart, it wasn't an arguement!" :) ) ... _discussion_ about the D2. We took a couple for a drive and she was sold!

It's wheelbase is SHORTER than a commodore/falcon or larger jap passenger vehicle. It's WAY smaller than a Landcrusier/Patrol etc ... It's not as big as you think.

Seriously, get her in one.

Kev..

[Sleepy]

Hey Jason and Karen, what you doin in June???

OUTBACK LAND ROVER HERITAGE DRIVE 2010 (http://www.olrhd2010.com/index.htm)

A few of us are going:angel:

[banjo]

Hey Jason and Karen, what you doin in June???

OUTBACK LAND ROVER HERITAGE DRIVE 2010 (http://www.olrhd2010.com/index.htm)

A few of us are going:angel:

we could only wish DREAM

[Sleepy]

No worries:( - I'm gonna keep nagging though :p

[banjo]

No worries:( - I'm gonna keep nagging though :p

Sweet
your funny
karen

[Sleepy]

Sweet
your funny
karen

Nah, I'm sleepy - the other dwarf!

[banjo]

Nah, I'm sleepy - the other dwarf!

well i'm fatty
i was so skinny when i met jason he called me fatty & it stuck,,so that makes me another dwarf...the kids rip me off over my shortness..
LOL:cool::D:o:p:p:p

[Sleepy]

So when Jason said "OMG what have you done to me fatty.." and I cacked myself laughing that is ok? Fatty? (He says confidently from 1000km away:cool:)

[banjo]

yep its strange seeing jason write karen & when i post i write from karen so it will be fatty from now on as use are friends..

[banjo]

So when Jason said "OMG what have you done to me fatty.." and I cacked myself laughing that is ok? Fatty? (He says confidently from 1000km away:cool:)

ooohhhhh crap i forgot about that post...:cry::cry::cry:

[Didge]

Hey Sleepy, I was driving along the other day and ran up the back of a car. I got out and so did the other driver. He was a dwarf and he said "I'm not *&@#ing happy"
I said " which one are ya then?"

boboom! probably heard it haven't ya? :)

[Didge]

Hey Jason and Karen and WhiteD3 and Gillie, my heart goes out to all of you. I have a partial understanding of what you're enduring as my 18 year old son (I'm 50) has had OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) now for around 3 - 4 years. It can be a real strain on a family and to have support from those you love is vital and you're lucky to have it. Talking to you specifically there Jason, and the others (D3 and Gillie) are saints for providing support as they have for their families. I think this thread in particular is indicative of the support and love we feel for you, even though most of us don't know you in person. It has to be the most quickly subscribed thread I've read here; so many responses and support in such a short time. I can't believe I missed it. I agree with all those positive comments from so many and you are truly braver than you realise. Great to see the mug shots, too. Always good to put a face to the name. The way the mind controls us, all of us, is such a strange thing. Why do some people get depressed, etc when others don't? Jason, I think you've got some damn good reasons for your "condition", for want of a better word. Mate, given what I've read about your childhood you're doing really well to where you are now, so you really are a survivor and fighter. Jason, if it were any other condition I'd be there in a heartbeat to help, but obviously that won't help here, will it?! You're already taking huge steps in your own self help and treatment just by starting this thread and then maintaining it; it shows true courage and committment. In fact, I'm in awe of you; truly, cos I don't think I'd have the same level of courage. I sincerely take my hat off to you; and it's a big hat! :) BTW, sexy beast of a truck. What other vehicle of the same vintage can look that good. Oh, apart from our wives of course. lol. As with all the others, I offer my help and encouragement if you ever need it.
cheers Gerald

[banjo]

Oh crap fatty just read your post aswell as me pirasea now i gettin scared again she said its time for another post from her ..see i dont go into detail as i am emmbarest about it & this thread has helped me so much but it is doing even more for fatty as she tells her story & my secrets she has never been able to talk to anyone before as everyone we know wants nothing to do with it.i was diognosed(spell check anyone) with OCD about 7 or 8 years ago ontop of my other problems..
i get upset when i read everyones posts now i sound sobby as maybe its overwhelmed but on the some hand i get exciteted as the friendships we are building is awsome i have never had this before outside karen & i think it is a releef for karen..
But on another note it was payday yesterday & we have a little change so fatty going to pickup the bar for our spare wheel carrier,not that it matters we dont have a spare wheel yet LOL..
thanx Jason...

[banjo]

to everyone again thanks to pirasea my heartfelt best wishes to you and your family i know how hard it is for you all for someone so young who is just starting to experience life and trying to live with ocd .... it just shouldn't be last year at the beginning our daughter started little things that started ringing alarm bells big time in my head she was obsessed with cleanliness everywhere her room was always spotless cause she was always cleaning it she'd wear socks inside the house and leave them in her doorway when she went into her room she was forever washing her hands then up to her elbows so bad that skin dried ou thands started cracking and bleeding it scared me so much doctors were trying to help she kept telling us theres nothing wrong finally got her to understand there was started to see a child psycologist it took a lot of time and a lot of visits she got worse before better she stopped goin to school started having panic attacks they talked about giving her a special exception to be home schooled because she missed so much and i fought for her she was only 14 and there was no way why i had breath in me that i was goin to give up and let her be ruled by this what kind of life can they have locked inside a house afraid to go anywhere that was all i could see of couse this was tearing at jason to he wanted us to split up because he saw this as his fault because we were told that micayla's was a learned response she had friends life was is as normal as we can make it no major issues at school she was and is well liked we slowly got her back to school 1 lesson at a time she had a special pass so she could leave class an go up to an unused room in the office when she needed to i was told we just need to find a balance and learn to live with small things they need to do that aren't extreme so the hand washing is now not so bad the socks in her doorway i can live with that she is now back at school fulltime still has some little things there she doesn't like using the school toilets they to unclean she is allowed to use toilets in office otherwise i don't think she would go all day the school helped i guess i'm trying to say i feel for you it will get better hopefully he has learnt this to to balance what he feels he needs to do i wish you all the best.....karen or fatty whatever makes you laugh

[banjo]

Well the car is going good again allday today apparently ,(i cant get fatty out of it now)..
started the spare wheel carrier today its getting there..

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-3/97951-rear-door-spare-wheel-carrier.html

[banjo]

Hey ausfree how did you get on the the clatons i mean freelander .has it been upto kotara or have you got it back..

[Ausfree]

Hey ausfree how did you get on the the clatons i mean freelander .has it been upto kotara or have you got it back..
Yeah, its sitting down at All4X4, problems with the ECU are sorted, will truck it back to Edgy on Monday for the mechanic to flush out the radiator and then I will have to get the tranny flushed out also. Woko reckons there is a good place at Maitland that worked on the tranny of his brothers Freelander, so I will give them a ring next week. I am starting to get fed up with the whole thing, Freelander has been off the road for a month now, which is unbelievable.:mad::mad:
Drove past your place today saw your nice green Landy in the driveway, unfortunately I was on a tight time schedule so I couldn't stop. However if an old bloke walks up one day and says "gooday Jason" it'll probably be me.:)

[banjo]

Sweet bet ya cant wait..fingers crossed you should have it back by wednesday or atleast by friday.........Stockton beach look out.......

[matti4556]

Hey Jason - I bet ya don't realise it yet - but I reckon you are the one helping out a lot of other folk on this forum just by posting your daily achievements.;)
I am absolutely inspired by your story.
WELL DONE MATE.:)

It's all like the "Chocolate Elephant" - My son looks at his school homework and wonders how he is going to get it all done.
I tell him that the secret to getting the big task done is like eating a chocolate Elephant - one bite at a time!
Keep eating Jason - looks like you have eaten a leg off your elephant already!

p.s. - I am proud to be part of the LR community, and this thread galvanises my pride.

[Sleepy]

Good evening Fatty and Jason (and everyone else)
Driving home tonight I was thinking about you guys and wondering what I was going to read about tonight. I had a crappy day at work but you guys certainly help me put my day in perspective.
Nothing to add - Happy to listen :)
Thanks

[banjo]

A little bit more insite, jasons bigest fear is throwing up when he was a kid if any of the kids got sick their father would say have something to eat or eat your tea you will feel better then would go off at them for wasting when they where sick, work that out.even now if he is sick the whole neighbourhood knows.when we first started dating we where never allowed to go out we allways had to go where they were going..when his grandmother died we went to the funeral but for jason to get there we left 4hrs before to get there on time & he couldnt eat for 2 days before incase he felt sick..
His second bigest fear would be the dentist he has bad teeth when he was younger if he got a tooth ache they just said take a panadol or would say put some gloves on it to numb it not take them to a dentist..well to make things worse he had to have a tooth pulled about 16 years ago the dentist said only take 10 mins & he was rude as ,jason had a panic atack & the dentist just got ****ed off so that made it worse & took 2 & half hours to get the tooth out ,it was a bad tooth but not that bad .well when we left jason had a cracked jaw serverely cut gum & no stitches we couldnt stop the bleeding & when i rang the dentist back he just said to rinse it out with some peroxside..he couldnt eat for three days had to suck bex up threw a straw for the pain,hence he will not go back to a dentist..
jason used to work for balcombs scrap metal & had an account at the garage across the road to get fuel & grub he liked his pie at 4 in the morning,they told him never have an account,,,well one night he game over for t at my place we where doing the dishes & his father rang up abused the hell out of him & told him to get home ,they where going threw his draws & found his account blew the **** out of him over it..mind you he had had it for about 2 years & paid it in full every friday,they where just ****ed off cause it was money they could of had..
he allso has in the front of all our cars an old icecream container incase his sick its a comfort thing if it helps him get out i dont care what he has in there.
he missed our kids birth because his mum wouldnt let him drive as we didnt have a car at the time & she only had a 2 door little mazda 323 but she wouldnt let him drive so he didnt have to be in the back seat with no way out or feel in control if he was driving..thats all he wanted but na your not driving my bloody car she said..ah well not the end of the world..
He also worked at the old solo servise station on bluegum road jesmond he was on very minimal wages but he got his fuel for free & had acsess to the work shop & towtruck when ever he wanted well parents would say we mite borrow your car tomorow but never said for definite that was what they wanted just mite well he got up to go to work no note on the table to say we need your car so he went to work well he got it when he got home though because he took the car & didnt walk from marylands to jesmond.plus they would come in when he was at lunch & fill their car up & tell the boss to put it on his tab but jason wouldnt say anything as he knew he would of got the **** blown out of him if he did...so he just left it..

[Didge]

Hey Ausfree, I just sailed from Pittwater up to Lake Macquarie a few weeks ago. First time I've done that and first time I've been to that neck of the woods. Took a boat to Wangi. You certainly live in a beautiful part of the world. Why would you want to holiday anywhere else, eh? Yeah, I know; variety is the spice of life, etc, but hey what a backyard??? Eh??!!
cheers Gerald

[Didge]

Here here matti4556, mate I agree with everything you've said. Also why are my words being underlined?????
Whats funny Jason and Karen, is that, I've found over the years, the more people you talk to the more people and families you find who have problems like yours, or have strange medical problems or have the so called dysfunctional families. I fact, it's probably the norm. A perfect family is hard or almost impossible to find. An old school mate of mine who I'd always thought had grown up in the perfect loving country style family (kinda reminded me of the John Denver rocky mountain high style of family) turned out to be full of backstabbing and loathing for each other and fighting over family assets. I'm not saying in any way, shape or form that your family is like that; I guess I'm trying to say, hey even those families that appear "perfect" have problems and in fact may well be hiding their problems.

[Didge]

Hi again Jason and Karen, thanks for replying; forgot to say that earlier. From what I've read of the replies from both of you I reckon it's time you told these "knockers" in your family and close friends to get *&%$ ed". But I guess someone has already suggested that to you. Family and friends provide support, not ridicule! Thanks for your empathy regarding my son, but hey you're going through that and some, eh? When I read about Micayla, I thought "welcome to my world"; almost exactly the same problem, you'd think they were the same person. All the same problems. In fact, yesterday I bumped (accidentally brushed against) into my son twice and he had to strip off all his clothes, have a shower both times and put on new clothes (twice). AAARRRGGGHHHH! Also, let me tell you that whoever told you that Micayla's behaviour was a learned response needs a kick up the datehole. It's usually stems from anxiety. Obviously, Jason has more than enough pent up anxiety but Micayla's won't come from copying her father. So don't blame yourself Jason. Believe me, we're living with it right now. My son took Zoloft for a while (but unfortunately has stopped) and it did him and us the world of good when he was on it cos he became really relaxed, things just stopped worrying him as much and his mood changed from aggresive to passive and he became quite pleasant company. Heard of it?

[Didge]

Hi Ausfree, I was rereading this thread and saw your story again. Mate, my heart also goes out to you and your family. Your'e totally right in that some of us are healt lousy hands and others get all the aces. You and yours have had a real rough trot. My old man died in 2002 (70 y.o) from bowel cancer (had it for 8 years - stage 3) so I can only advise you to ignore any doctors recommendations to follow up 3or 5 years and do follow ups in half the time. take care
cheers Gerald (50 y.o)

[Ausfree]

Hi Ausfree, I was rereading this thread and saw your story again. Mate, my heart also goes out to you and your family. Your'e totally right in that some of us are healt lousy hands and others get all the aces. You and yours have had a real rough trot. My old man died in 2002 (70 y.o) from bowel cancer (had it for 8 years - stage 3) so I can only advise you to ignore any doctors recommendations to follow up 3or 5 years and do follow ups in half the time. take care
cheers Gerald (50 y.o)
Thanks for your kind thoughts, Pirasea, without trying to hijack Banjo's thread, Bowel Cancer is a terrible ailment that can sneak up on you without noticing, I am now a strong advocate of anybody over 50 ( I'm 64) having a colonoscopy every five years or so. As I have already had cancer I will be having one more regularly. Sorry Banjo this is your thread.:)

[banjo]

hey pirasea thats what my childhood looked like everyone even close family friends thought my oldman was the nicest guy on earth but when no one was around things changed ,they never had to live with him..even still today people will say hes a nice bloke they should try living with him..
Hey knowone hijacking this thread i enjoy reading them all sort of make me feel some normality so keep it going ....
One thing i have learned from telling everyone on here is it helps to talk & be honest about it...
I havent been out for a week so i think its time to go for a drive so i'm going to try after the realestate have been they showing some people threw as the house is for sale .sucks no one will buy it its falling down round our ears but it would be nice if an invester brought it wouldnt have to move then..looks like i'll go out the back for a smoke & a talk to the dog while they here..
karen recons i should go out & take pics of me & the car while out..HHHMMMMM.
PS freds on luvox it helped her so much but the doc wants her to stay on it for a little while longer just to be sure..

[banjo]

OH yah on my 21st birthday the oldman threw a party for me ,i never wanted one cause of the obvious but i went along all guests where friends of his & halfway threw the night he had that one to many & got violent well all he wanted to do was belt the crap out of me for the rest of the night then we could have a beer & be friends ,not one person helped bar karen.then he made me make a speach to thank everyone for coming..mide you he threw a plate full of food over the table where all the pressies where& knocked over the smelly candles over the ones used for mozzies well everything got burnt so i got bugger all left.he told everyone that if they get me something to get it engraved because i mite pawn it as i didnt work....
Karen & i where to get married not to long after that but that never happened cause karens parents where at the party & said if he is going to the wedding were not so we lost all out deposits & never got married...

Things are coming back from memery as i read fattys posts i have blocked so much out its not funny...
someone once said to me when i mentioned about my olds hey you cant help bad luck.:eek:

[Ausfree]

Banjo, again i don't want to hijack your thread but after reading right through everything that has happened I might tell you a bit about my experiences with my father, I hope this helps.
Being older than you I was a little tacker in the 1950's and Dad would go to the pub of a Saturday afternoon and come home drunk and of cause mum would have a go at him for being away so long and that of cause would set him off, in front of me (bearing in mind I was about 6 to 8 years old) he would bash the living daylights out of mum, she would be laying on the floor crying and he would sit on her and still bash her, I used to scream out "Stop it, Stop it", I would run out of the house and hide either up behind the garage (for hours at a time, wasn't game to come back inside) or go down to my grandmothers place who lived two doors away.
I had a younger brother who is 6 years younger than me, and after the usual Saturday afternoon thump up I could hear my brother cying in his cot. Mum was bashed up, she couldn't help and Dad was prowling around the house in a drunken stupor and I was hiding up behind the garage in my usual spot. My brother kept crying so I sneaked into the house picked him up (luckily Dad didn't see me) and ran down to Grandma's place. She would usually feed us and let us play down there until things calmed down at home.
Dad fought with all his neighbours, even built an eight foot high fence around the yard and put barbed wire on the top, it was like living in a state of constant seige. The bus stop was at the front gate and the schoolkids used to site on the fence waiting for their bus, doing no harm and he told tyhem to p**s off, so he placed barbed wire on the front fence so the kids couldn't sit on it.
Dad never laid a hand on me (I was/am an asthmatic and I think that helped) but I remember my older brother copping some beltings, as a matter of fact my father kicked my elder brother out of the house at the age of sixteen.they never reconciled until my elder brother was thirty.
Dad did get off the grog in the early 60's and he never touched mum after that but he still remained argumentative/bad tempered/every body else is a mongrel/ distant to us.
Dad died at the age of 97 in 2007 and he was estranged from the entire family,the last time I saw him was in 1998. Not one family member attended his funeral, mainly because he didn't contact us to say he was sick, I know my younger brother (My older brother died in 2003) and myself would have been by his bedside if he had of contacted us, but as he got older he became worse in his atitude and in the end we couldn't take anymore so we slowly stopped visiting him to be constantly abused.
I have constantly asked myself the Question, Why are people like that?
By the way we found out about the funeral in the paper the day after.:( In his Will, Dad left his entire estate to a woman he met after Mum died in 1994, the family got nothing.:mad:
Banjo, I hope my experiences help you, and I could also talk about the biggest setback in my life, the day my first wife died and the devastating effect on the family that had, or I can talk about the step-son doing drugs and the battle we had on that front ( didn't mention that one before) he is your age and we now joke about a permanent cell with his name on it at Cessnock Jail, its a revolving door with him doing drugs, stealing, dealing drugs, robbery you name it:mad:

[banjo]

Well i went out for the drive managed to stop at the cheap shop at cardiff spent some money that made fatty happy..cant you go into a shop & not spend any money ..not realy.its amazing what you can find in the base wherehouse.

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Then went nextdoor to the video store & walk around in there i even found a DVD to watch..more money she says..

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Left there & went for a drive then ended up downat warnersbay stoped at my fav shop GASWELD was in there for awhile.. your gettin any money ..

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Left there & drove around & up hillsborough RD to have a look at all the new shops found autobarn didnt stop there it was packed.
Cardiff is so bad with traffic while woolies is beeing built it was crowded all round down there..
Well thats my day out so far..i made it into 3 shops..was going to go into aldi but it was full with one checkout working, pass...:ehigh5: :banana::burnrubber:

passed disco & gave the wave didnt get one back so i gave him the reverse finger wave & he still didnt wave,,disco drivers must be above us series owners,,LOL

[seano87]

...

passed disco & gave the wave didnt get one back so i gave him the reverse finger wave & he still didnt wave,,disco drivers must be above us series owners,,LOL


Oi! I drive a Disco and don't think I am above you, probably more the other way round, I have a lot of respect for series owners! :p I'll give you an arm out the window madman wave if I ever see the truck out and about when I'm around your way :D

All in all sounds like you've had a pretty good day, and I'm certainly glad to hear about the progress you've been making. Its also been good to hear some of the background info, well, not good in terms of it happening in the first place, but good that you seem to be getting more comfortable letting some more details out of what must be a continually tough topic for you to recollect on.

With the house on the market, where are you going to go when it sells? (Sorry if that's already been mentioned, I haven't noticed if it has...)

Seano

[banjo]

Oi! I drive a Disco and don't think I am above you, probably more the other way round, I have a lot of respect for series owners! :p I'll give you an arm out the window madman wave if I ever see the truck out and about when I'm around your way :D

All in all sounds like you've had a pretty good day, and I'm certainly glad to hear about the progress you've been making. Its also been good to hear some of the background info, well, not good in terms of it happening in the first place, but good that you seem to be getting more comfortable letting some more details out of what must be a continually tough topic for you to recollect on.

With the house on the market, where are you going to go when it sells? (Sorry if that's already been mentioned, I haven't noticed if it has...)

Seano

hey seano not sure where will end up hopefuly stay here somewhere as the kids dont want to change schools plus the young fella just started high school.we was looking up your way but its to close to my mother & 2 sisters. mother lives at lougth park ,one sister lives at ashtonfield & the other live at metford i could live near sister at metford but not the other 2..plus fattys family have just moved up to metford aswell.
not only that we dont have a bond ,we do with this realestate but you cant interchange (transfer) to another realestate.
so it will have to be something that this realestate has for offer..
unfortunatly everytime they do this we seem to get all there houses that realy need cleaning up the last one we where in had old chook run lawn hadnt been mowed for i dont no how long ,when we moved in here we thought we had to get weelie bins ended up finding them uder the grass on there sides.didnt even know we had fences till we cleaned the place up..

Hey uas fattys going to reply to your post we read it ,she is going threw the same thing now..

[banjo]

The people that where here today to look at the house where real keen & they where young so this mite be all they could afford & do up as they grow as such..he had a clip board & was ticking all these things on it ,.so we will just have to wait & see..
I hate moving it meens i have to pull all me benches down & go threw all the tools .moving the furniture is the easy bit we dont have that much...

[DiscoMick]

Been enjoying this thread but haven't posted much. I admire you guys for getting on with life despite everything.

I'm in my 50s and in Brissie so you won't see me driving past.
Nice Landy, by the way.

My wife had a depression breakdown a while back and it took her a while to get back on top. She's good most of the time, but knows when she's getting edgy and takes action to beat it. Thats not the same situation as yours, but I guess it shows most of us are a bit fragile in some way. You're not alone.

The granddaughter is a bit obsessive and showed some behavoural problems at school, but we've put it down to a combination of confusion and repressed feelings about her parents getting divorced, plus her IQ is about 4 years above her age, so we think she's just a bit bored sometimes at school. Love and caring seems to be the best treatment.

Incidentally, Ausfree, my wife loves driving our Disco, which has power steering and is easy to park (except in low parking stations). She's short but the side steps help her in. So I'd certainly get your wife to give a Disco a try, if I were you.

[banjo]

Been enjoying this thread but haven't posted much. I admire you guys for getting on with life despite everything.

I'm in my 50s and in Brissie so you won't see me driving past.
Nice Landy, by the way.

My wife had a depression breakdown a while back and it took her a while to get back on top. She's good most of the time, but knows when she's getting edgy and takes action to beat it. Thats not the same situation as yours, but I guess it shows most of us are a bit fragile in some way. You're not alone.

The granddaughter is a bit obsessive and showed some behavoural problems at school, but we've put it down to a combination of confusion and repressed feelings about her parents getting divorced, plus her IQ is about 4 years above her age, so we think she's just a bit bored sometimes at school. Love and caring seems to be the best treatment.

Incidentally, Ausfree, my wife loves driving our Disco, which has power steering and is easy to park (except in low parking stations). She's short but the side steps help her in. So I'd certainly get your wife to give a Disco a try, if I were you.

i fight depression i have my high & low days but since yakin on here about it the low days seem to be fewer so thats good..

[DeanoH]

How do you find the blue engine in the Landy. Was that in old one or your current one. Did you manage to get that @#5$%*& vari-jet carby or whatever they had to work or did you put something else on ?

Keep up the good work.

Deano

[banjo]

Hey DeanoH the blue 202 is in the current one green one .its a good engine now we have it set up . na we use a holley 350 on it its not to bad.fuel consuption isnt to bad either..but the best thing is the power steering..:eek:
we had thought it was getting hot but it was just a sender compatarbilty with the dash gauge but we just use an electric temp gauge & its ok..
could do with another gear thow..

[Ausfree]

Hey, Banjo, how come you scored a park in Harrison St Cardiff, every time I go there its parked out, looks like you had plenty of room.:D:D

[banjo]

Fattys always going off the few times i do go out i allways seem to get a park right out the front of where i have to go..
but i had to walk from the corner back to the cheap shop.
Karen said shut up you had to walk 40 feet she had to park in bilo yesterday just to go to the post office...
What where you in when you went past.i remember your profile saying you where a driver,taxi,courier.Bus..
i seen an old van go pst slow it was in undercaot only....

[DeanoH]

Used to have a SIIA many years ago. 4cyl petrol. Got it balanced and fitted extractors as I was sick of cracking manifolds every time I crossed a creek. Went like the clappers but felt as if it was a gear short. It had Rover diffs both ends, no Salisbury, bolted in Rover 90 (sedan) diffs which changed it from about 4.7 to 4.3 from memory. Was a real cheap half a gear upgrade. Though you could get 'Fairy" overdrives which bolted on to the back of the transfer case which gave you a proper extra gear. Maybe someone on the forum can point you in the right direction.

Deano

[Ausfree]

Fattys always going off the few times i do go out i allways seem to get a park right out the front of where i have to go..
but i had to walk from the corner back to the cheap shop.
Karen said shut up you had to walk 40 feet she had to park in bilo yesterday just to go to the post office...
What where you in when you went past.i remember your profile saying you where a driver,taxi,courier.Bus..
i seen an old van go pst slow it was in undercaot only....
I drive Stretch Limo's so if a Limo goes past and the driver waves. you know who it is. I have to go to Sydney airport tomorrow to pick up some people to bring back to Newcastle. I work for the mob just up the road from you, thats why I knew the houses in the background of earlier photo's you posted.:D:D Also drive mini buses, have to go to Buladelah on Monday to bring some people back from a fishing trip.

[banjo]

Used to have a SIIA many years ago. 4cyl petrol. Got it balanced and fitted extractors as I was sick of cracking manifolds every time I crossed a creek. Went like the clappers but felt as if it was a gear short. It had Rover diffs both ends, no Salisbury, bolted in Rover 90 (sedan) diffs which changed it from about 4.7 to 4.3 from memory. Was a real cheap half a gear upgrade. Though you could get 'Fairy" overdrives which bolted on to the back of the transfer case which gave you a proper extra gear. Maybe someone on the forum can point you in the right direction.

Deano

na the pto for the winch is atatched to it.but it would be nice...

[banjo]

I drive Stretch Limo's so if a Limo goes past and the driver waves. you know who it is. I have to go to Sydney airport tomorrow to pick up some people to bring back to Newcastle. I work for the mob just up the road from you, thats why I knew the houses in the background of earlier photo's you posted.:D:D Also drive mini buses, have to go to Buladelah on Monday to bring some people back from a fishing trip.

cool we will defanetly keep an eye out now..

[Narangga]

Thanks to both of you for sharing everything. Bottling stuff up doesn't work so it's good that you can share it here.

I get busy during the week so I'll check back on the thread again next weekend.

All the best.

[Sleepy]

Evening Jase and Fatty,
Wow 2 pages since yesterday - sounds like you're having a good day :)
Nice to see you out and about.
Great reading - I wish use guys would use punctuation though :lol2:
Geez I sound like a school teacher:D:angel:

So tell me about the tatoo sticker - You got ink?

Does your green landy have a name?

(I thought Arbuckle might be a good name, get it? Fatty Arbuckle :lol2:)

Sorry, shouldn't laugh at my own jokes.

[banjo]

Hey paul yep we both have tattoos mine are all old as i havent got any new ones ,for obvious reasons ,cant sit there for long let alone get there ..Fatty has a couple of new ones ....she has a betty boop on her forearm & tribal thingy on her wrist there her latest ones the next is a butterfly..we know the owner of impact tattoos & the body piercer his kids go to school with ours & he lives just up the street from us...
Fatty is my little freak she has piercings,nose ,eyebrow,lip,belly hole & spacers in her ears- she likes them & i not complaining..
Fatty calls the car christeen she recons its posest -we would fix something just to have it stuff up..
but i like your better..yeah i had a good day today was out for about an hour & a half & made it to a few shops ..havent done that for heaps..

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She also has one on her boobie & both her hips are done..

[Sleepy]

Fatty calls the car christeen


That's right you did say that earlier - Ooops forgot!:angel:

[banjo]

Well i had a crap day today i went out to the shed to do more work on the wheel carrier that never happened...Fatty says that i'm probably just come down from the high of being out this week...Played crap on puter all day instead......maybe tomoz will be a good day -not realy as my mother calls in every monday morning before she goes to ten pin bowling & she wants me to put windows 7 on both her laptops....,yay lucky me...
Kids are driving us insane at the moment wont do a thing we ask or tell..
FATTY'S worried bout cody he wants to play leage this year & he starts training on tuesday arvo,-shes got hold of some head gear & shoulder pads ,,...pore kids ganna be wraped up.next she will want him the use a cricket cup....LOL

[Sleepy]

Don't worry Jason - go with the flow. Not every day is a good one.
I had a good day today - got lots of stuff done at work. Don't like working Sundays but it's nice and quiet so get plenty of extra stuff done.
Get Cody playing AFL, then he wont need all that padding :D :p

[banjo]

What do you do for a living sleepy.is it interesting....i thought you mite of been a teacher from my punctuations,

[Didge]

Hey Jason, see I told you that most families have got something going on in their families. You're thread here is bringing out all sorts of stories. Like you, most us go on living with it and not really talking about it. Apart from you condition I reckon you're a lucky man having a chick like fatty. Sounds like a bit of a wild child to me - lots of fun.
As for the disco drivers , yeah, I find most of them don't wave (probably apart from those on this site) but the series drivers do - cool. It's great, eh? Keep ya chin up mate.
cheers Gerald

[banjo]

Fred is just as bad shes trying to catch up i recon she has her tongue,ears ,belly - had her nose done but took it out..now she wants these things called dermals - piercings on your chest .each to there own, looks painfull to me but she recon it will be ok -dont have worrie about her gettin the to nsoon i told her we wherent going to pay for those & she doest want to work hahahaha her problem....

[Sleepy]

What do you do for a living sleepy.is it interesting....i thought you mite of been a teacher from my punctuations,

Nah not a real teacher - although I do train a few people. I am in the aviation business.

You are doing well with the fullstops:) - now let me introduce you to the "SHIFT" key :lol2:

[banjo]

hey i still type with one finger

[banjo]

one laptop down 1 to got & a desk top to put vista on...

[banjo]

not realy sure what i am doing with computers -but the worst i can do is wipe the hard drive witch i have plenty of expieriance done that lots ..-now i follow the prompts on screen ,,,,doesnt allways work thow....

[Ausfree]

Hey Banjo, you're a man of many talents!!!!:D:D

[banjo]

i'm on a role i havent broke ant yet today..

[banjo]

To the person or persons we dont know who we would like to extend a heartfelt thankyou for our gift we received today, we where totaly gobsmacked & speachless we never expected it at all..
again we cant thank you enuff..

THANKYOU FROM US BOTH
Jason & Karen..

[banjo]

Well done the folding today 2400 pamphlets later another 400 papers tomorow..yay..:eek::eek:
the people that came to look at the house on saturday liked the house & we now have the building inspecter coming tomorrow at 10..Fatty's stressing big time now as there are no houses in our area in our price range the all $300 plus a week..& the realestate wont let us know till the last minute that the house has been sold because the owner is still getting his rent & they getting there commision.so we will get two weeks notic again as we arent on contract anymore we signed a 6 month lease 10 years ago..& they done it to us in the last house we rented from them...:mad::mad:
so who can i move in with for a few weeks while fatty's craby....LOL..

[banjo]

Hey aus hows the free lander get it back to edgy...what was the verdict...
I wouldnt worrie about going to stockton beach,,you could go to samari beach instead i think the scenery looks better even better at the far end not this end near the rock..LOL..:eek::eek::twisted::twisted:

[banjo]

Hey Banjo, you're a man of many talents!!!!:D:D

hey have you allways had that avatar pics ,or is it i just havent looked hard enuff..

[Ausfree]

Hey aus hows the free lander get it back to edgy...what was the verdict...
I wouldnt worrie about going to stockton beach,,you could go to samari beach instead i think the scenery looks better even better at the far end not this end near the rock..LOL..:eek::eek::twisted::twisted:
Not a happy chappy at the moment, got the Freelander back today after spending $1600:eek::eek: the mechanic admitted he caused the problem with the ECU and he wore the cost to All4X4 for the repairs to the ECU plus the cost for a tow truck to take the car there and back. Spoke to Bob Hunt Auto's at Maitland about flushing out the Auto box, which they will do, but the bad news is its only a matter of time before the box fails. the cooling system will have to be flushed again as I have just come back from looking at the coolant and it still has sludge in it. The mechanic did say it will have to be flushed again, and its only a matter of time before the rubber hoses all fail because of contact with the tranny fluid.
I am sitting here having a beer at the moment drowning my sorrows.
P.S See you got a surprise delivered today, it was not me, but my best wishes go out to whoever did it.:):)

[Ausfree]

hey have you allways had that avatar pics ,or is it i just havent looked hard enuff..
Nah, put the avatar there yesterday, I felt a bit out of it with everybody having an avatar, so I posted one. though the way I feel about Landrover at the moment I might put something not quite so complimentary there.:mad:

[banjo]

Mite of been cheaper maybe to replace the radiator & flush the auto a few times. or get a radiator out of a manual & run a separate auto cooler.To repair the radiator they would have to pull it apart to try & seal the bottom tank & that never works..wonder what a new rad would be worth ????

[banjo]

Someone reminded me today dont know who (fatty) of the time we had a sherif knock on our door not long after we moved out .My parents had rang before to say he called in there first & it was probably to do jury duty,,far from it..When i first started having my problem a doctor sent me for so many tests it wasnt funny & at the time i was work long hours & weekends so i didnt get time to pay any of the bills,so i gave the money to my step mother to pay that was fine,untill the last test it was the one they stick a garden hose with a camera on it down your throat, when the bill came in i gave the money & medicare rebate thingy to my parents to pay,Well they didnt thats what he was there for so we had to pay the bill plus 6 months worth of interest & i was just laid off Fatty saved that one ..When we confronted parents they just said yeah we paid it..yay:eek::eek::eek:

[Ausfree]

Mate, as you now know, when the sheriff comes a-knocking on your door, its always bad news.:(

[banjo]

Realy bad low day today so far, got stuck with the building inspector here for three hours plus the pest inspection guys turned up,,looks like the house will be sold after talking to the building inspector the people he was doing it for realy realy want the place..Fattys stressed big time cause there nothing around here for rent...Going to have a shed clean out soon so i will have some small parts & some tools if anyone is interested (free)..ah well i better go & fold me papers mite feel better after that(not) cant deliver them till in the morning ,young cody has his first footy training tonight...
AUS let us know about your car ....i would be fuming if my car was at a machanics for that long..

[Sleepy]

go with the flow Jason. Worrying about shid aint gonna change nothin. Maybe make a list:


Give fatty a cuddle
Find a place
Clear the shed
Fold the papers
etc
etc


Then you can have all your worries sitting on a bit of paper not clogging up your head.
And most of all SMILE :)- Smiles are free and even if you don't feel happy you may make those around you happy.
Chin up buddy. Things have a funny way of working out in the end.

[banjo]

Yep done the papers & was lucky we got them delivered before the kids got home, only just thow.
Mite have to take the door top off the landy so we can deliver the papers in that,sick of driving the crapota..least we didnt get wet this week..

[Ausfree]

Hey, Buddy having people going through YOUR house when the owner wants to sell it. Its like an invasion of YOUR privacy. About 15 years ago we rented for about two years and the while we were looking to buy in the Cameron Park area, the owner said, through the agent, "not a problem with a rental of about 18 months, no worry", 6 months later the mongrel said "sell" and we had to move, my wife was soooooo stressed out with people coming through the house all the time. She went for a walk each time people came,she was so angry.

Its a very stressful time for you mate and my thoughts are with you and Karen, hang in there mate, think happy thoughts, better times are ahead.

Drove past your place this afternoon, had to drop some people off over in Cardiff South and of cause, past your place is the shortest way back to base. Looked out for you, but you must have been delivering your pamphlets.

Cheers mate:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[banjo]

Yeah getting faster with delivery Fatty keeps yellin slow down & i keep saying throw faster you throw like an old woman,try & get them near the letter box dear..

[Ausfree]

Yeah getting faster with delivery Fatty keeps yellin slow down & i keep saying throw faster you throw like an old woman,try & get them near the letter box dear..
Hey, Mate what you are saying in your post is at odds with your little saying at the bottom of your post above the picture of your green Landy, what you should be saying is "Getting there Quickly, C'mon Karen throw faster".

Only yankin your funny chain mate.:twisted::twisted::D

[Ausfree]

Hey' you've changed it!!!:o

[banjo]

I tried it ,liked it,kept it...

[Ausfree]

I tried it ,liked it,kept it...
You're a funny bugga!!!:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

[banjo]

Well they came home from footy training & cody said it was fun , love it & only got smashed in the face once..
bit of a change from soccer thow..










.

[banjo]

Hey aus is your freelander white ,your avatar pic looks like a badge off a white car,never seen a white one round here seen a dark green ,red & a black one but never a white 1...

[Ausfree]

Actually, you are quite observant, Banjo, the avatar is the Landrover logo on my Freelander behind the rear door, the colour is the most common one in freelanders, it is called white/gold which doesn't show real well in photo's. My Freelander is a bit different in that it has 17" wheels with low profile tyres, ideal for road work, not real good in the rough. I will see if I can bring a photo up.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/1171.jpg

As you can see it is a nice looking car but boy is it giving us headaches at the moment.:):)

[DeanoH]

...... the people he was doing it for realy realy want the place....

Hang in there Jason/Karen with a bit of luck the potential new byers'll want to rent it out for a while and you'll be sweet, or they'll already have an ironclad rental that they can't change the lease of. Who knows? tell em theres Hells Angels next door who'll be really p....d if you have to leave as they'll need to find a new supplier.
The point I'm making (badly) is worry about things you can change and flow with the rest. You'll get through it cos youre tough.

Lotsa luck Deano

[banjo]

Pour Fatty is stressin big time now the realestate rang this mornin to say that they have recieved a deposit on the house & that we wil be getting people here for the inspections this week..Haha they where here yesterday ...

[banjo]

go with the flow Jason. Worrying about shid aint gonna change nothin. Maybe make a list:


Give fatty a cuddle
Find a place
Clear the shed
Fold the papers
etc
etc


Then you can have all your worries sitting on a bit of paper not clogging up your head.
And most of all SMILE :)- Smiles are free and even if you don't feel happy you may make those around you happy.
Chin up buddy. Things have a funny way of working out in the end.


thanks sleepy it is hard but will get there karen

[banjo]

Hang in there Jason/Karen with a bit of luck the potential new byers'll want to rent it out for a while and you'll be sweet, or they'll already have an ironclad rental that they can't change the lease of. Who knows? tell em theres Hells Angels next door who'll be really p....d if you have to leave as they'll need to find a new supplier.
The point I'm making (badly) is worry about things you can change and flow with the rest. You'll get through it cos youre tough.

Lotsa luck Deano

karen here thanks for that idea i like that ....i wasn't very charitable when they were here after looking through the house they asked to look in the shed i said no worries won't be able to see much because cristine was put away for the night .When i opened the door the lady was WOW can i have your car as well i didn't answer but the thought was why not you taking my house would you like the shirt off my back too lol.

PS sleeps i'm better then jas i use full stops and the shift key unlike some

thanks karen

[banjo]

Actually, you are quite observant, Banjo, the avatar is the Landrover logo on my Freelander behind the rear door, the colour is the most common one in freelanders, it is called white/gold which doesn't show real well in photo's. My Freelander is a bit different in that it has 17" wheels with low profile tyres, ideal for road work, not real good in the rough. I will see if I can bring a photo up.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/1171.jpg

As you can see it is a nice looking car but boy is it giving us headaches at the moment.:):)

nice looking car aus karen

[Sleepy]

sleeps i'm better then jas i use full stops and the shift key unlike some
Thanks Fatty, I can't even spell caleneder :lol2:
I think you spell betterer than Jas too. But let's just keep that between you and me and the internet. :p

[Ausfree]

nice looking car aus karen Thanks Karen, after a month laid up,hopefully you'll see it chugging around Cardiff again, with my wife driving. All depends on the results of the transmission flushing tomorrow:confused:

[banjo]

Thanks Karen, after a month laid up,hopefully you'll see it chugging around Cardiff again, with my wife driving. All depends on the results of the transmission flushing tomorrow:confused:


good luck tomorrow hope everything goes ok an you are back getting around in the rover

[Ausfree]

good luck tomorrow hope everything goes ok an you are back getting around in the rover
Thanks mate, how come, as I said before, some people breeze through life and other people, every which way they turn, its a drama!!!:(:)

[banjo]

Well i was mowing the front lawn this morning & this luxury car pulled up,& the only person i know with a luxury car is AUS with his work ,the bloke waved at me & opened his door ,so i turned the mower off thinking this is AUSFREE & i was about to meet him, sweet i thought so he gets out looks to be of aus age so i say g'day how u going he says good mate & you while walking towards me & i was just about to say your AUSFREE arent you & i'm finaly going to meet someone off the site - when he asks me do you know where the RTA has moved to as its not at cardiff any more..:wasntme:

[Ausfree]

Yeah, sorry mate, I have driven past a few times, not many, but I am usually driving a STREEEEETTTTCCCHH limo. I was home today flushing the radiator in the Freeby.:(:D

[spudfan]

Banjo, 14 years ago at the end of December my wife went into labour, 4 weeks early. I phoned the local doctor who told me to take her to hospital (40 miles away). It had snowed over Christmas a lot then froze so the roads were like glass. We headed of in the 90 Turbo diesel. I drove the 40 miles with the centre diff locked. 8 miles to go and my wife was kneeling on her seat into the back of the 90. I knew things were getting tight. Is that tears in my eyes or rain on the windscreen? Flick the wipers and it is not rain. We finally reaced the hospital. The 90 was red when we left home now it was white with frost. 30 minutes from hitting the car park the new addition to the family was in my arms. Cutting it tight was not the word for it.
Our new daughter turned out to have special needs. She was whisked to to the maternity ward and placed into an incubator and wired up like a Christmas tree. My wife decided she was not leaving without our daughter as she was trying to feed her. Everyday my other daughter and I made the 80 mile round trip to visit. One month later we moved up to stay near the hospital. I was taught how to feed our new daughter through a tube which I inserted through her mouth into her stomach. I was told to make sure I did not put it into her lungs by mistake. How will I know I asked? She will go blue I was told. Take it out and start again I was told.
Anyway about a month later we all got home to our own house. Later on in life we almost lost our youngest daughter owing to medical mixups. She suffered and we suffered but we survived. Then there is the constant fighting with health services and educational services over what is best for our daughter. Yes there were dark times and probably will be again. The future is out there but day by day does us. Our daughter is now 14, happy, beautiful and a bundle of joy. Definately life can be hard at times but it has it's rewards. Wish you well on your road ahead.

[banjo]

Hey UAS is the freelander back home & running all right now..

[banjo]

Had the bloke from the bank around today for the evaluation, he said he was happy to evaluate it for the what they selling it for...Went down to our realestate to see if they can help in a house for rent for us..Na not in your price range they said,but use have our bond we cant transfer between realestates anymore so we will have to stay with use..We got nothing for you - but we need our bond back so we can look for one elsewhere ..Na you will just have to wait till you get it back...MONGRELS.Fatty said well how about i go home & change all the locks & claim squatters rights....

[Ausfree]

Hey UAS is the freelander back home & running all right now.. Yeah mate, got home about half an hour ago. You should have seen the strawberry icecream that came out of the tranny, flushed 20 litres of fluid through it, and its running like a dream, but it is only a quick fix, Bob Hunt said it will fail before long, so he is going to price a replacement box. He checked the Intermediate Reduction Drive Unit which I was worried about and it was fine.

Have the car booked in next Thursday, for a chemical flush of the coolant system, do you want to come for a drive? It is booked in at Maitland for 8am and will take about 4 hours, so if you want to come I will pick you up about 7am.:D:D

[banjo]

UM na thanx i'll pass ..thanx for the offer..

[banjo]

If the Intermediate Reduction Drive Unit is ok & its been flush,,did they change the filters.if its fully cleaned out with new filters wouldnt it be ok.

[Ausfree]

No, didn't change the filters, he seemed to think it wasn't necessary, but he reckons one of the clutches is worn because the fluid had a slight burnt smell to it. Oh, sorry you can't make it, would've been a good time to have a chat. Maybe next time!!!:D:D

[Ausfree]

Just a thought, if you're on a pension, can't you apply for a loan from Centrelink to cover a new Bond until the old Bond money comes through?:confused:

[banjo]

Na unfortunatly that how we finished the car off & got the blue slip & green slip & plates rego was free..Hey if you go shoppin at glendale the sarvo beeing that its late night shopping can you tell Fatty to bring me rover back as shes had it all day & was only home for about an hour...
cause shes out there with the foot at the corner then over to the centre..:D

I'm starting to feel like i have sold me car cause its never here.:wasntme:

[Ausfree]

Na unfortunatly that how we finished the car off & got the blue slip & green slip & plates rego was free..Hey if you go shoppin at glendale the sarvo beeing that its late night shopping can you tell Fatty to bring me rover back as shes had it all day & was only home for about an hour...
cause shes out there with the foot at the corner then over to the centre..:D

I'm starting to feel like i have sold me car cause its never here.:wasntme: I have the same problem with my missus and the Freelander!!!!:)

[banjo]

I think i mite take the car out tomoz i'm gettin cabin fever ,plus i want a drive before Fatty uses all my fuel then tells me she needs fuel for her crapota..
Did anyone get the new 4WD Action with the duel cab deefa in it .nice bit of gear,i havent read the story but it looks good ..fill you in more after i have read it..its red.

[Sleepy]

Can't be all bad if it's RED.
Geez Jason, I was thinkin of you today. Had a day from hell :twisted:-- really shiddy. But then got home to my smiling missus and happy kids - kinda brings us back to the important things in life eh? Of course my dog Max also will give me the same warm welcome no matter what day it is.

[banjo]

Ah well managed to go out for a little while today.went to get the pamphlets got there gate locked thats ok had the combo for the lock but someone had locked the big shed ah well get them on monday..So i just went down to cardiff & home again better than not going out at all i spose..
Fatty called in at the realestate today & seen the head guy of the rental department & he said he would find us a place as we have been with them for about 15 years he said he would look after us,said they have a unit coming up that mite suit us...Not sure if the other members of the unit block would take to kindly to me building stuff in the shed though..But he said if its no good he would still find us something.he said he would personly look for us .
Just got a phone call from the high school cody is light headed so fatty's gone to get him..
Hope its not his passing out spells he has had before as i mentioned on here somewhere before,he kept passing out & looked dead i nearly started CPR on the last one he had ..
He says hes been playing leauge at school & i hope that doesnt have antthing to do with it as he just signed up for footy at glendale..
If its not one thing it another..
Hoping i mite be able to get out over the weekend will just have to wait & see..

fatty said i shouldnt push to hard as i dont want to go backwards more than i have gone forwards .as that has happened before i went 2 steps forward & about 10 steps back..

[Sleepy]

G'day Jason,
Sounds like the real estate guy is a good one (I knew there would be a good one somewhere :angel:)
Hope cody is ok. Don't jump to conclusions though. It might be something as simple as "not eating well" or "not playing enough AFL' (sorry 'nother mexican joke).
As I said before, I enjoying reading your thread - don't really know why, but you and Fatty need to know we are "listening". Even if we don't know the solution(s) either.
Good to see you getting out and about - even if it is only a little trip.
Sounds to me like it is 10 steps forward and 2 back.
Baby steps mate - you will learn to find a place in your mind where things are balanced. Good vs Bad, Up vs. Down, Happy vs. Sad. Land Rover vs. Crapota (OK, drop that last one!!!)
Avagoodweekend.
Cheers
Sleepy:zzz:

[banjo]

Hi everyone its been a while since i last posted & i have to say again a big thankyou to everyone of you for your surport towards us it is a great help to us both even for me as jason now has some where & someone else to chat with..
I am actualy going out for a lunchon on wednesday with a lady from the school, her kids are in cody's classes & i know her from primary school aswell so i'm realy looking forward to it as i havent been asked to come along for years..
With every body talking to jason it is making a differance he tries to make an effort to go out now even though they are baby steps & its going to be a long process you are all making headway with him, he is still embarassed at times & worried what to say to people he feels he should be trying more to go out but i keep telling him to not worry & just do what he can not over do it or he will end up going down hill & that hill will be so hard to get back up, & i am enjoying a little bit of freedom from the worrying of him because he will sit on the computer & chat with you & i can go out without the worry of him being at home alone & panicing..It is a great relief to have all be it very little it does help me & i'm so grateful to you all ..
Please bare with him as he is now learning to have conversations with people & comunicate.We only ever got to talk to older people when he was younger as we had to go everwhere his parents went ,not with people our own age & now we have a wide range of ages to talk with...
He gets quite excited when someone posts or talks to him here & i havent seen that in him since for i cant remember when..
He has at times asked me what should i say to everyone ,its like he said before its a learning curve for him & he loves this site & he has been trying to interact in other posts & threads..he's trying hard it's hard as he has never opened up so much before we have kept this to ourselves for so long it just got easy .....
He is learning everyones names & their personalities for the first time in a long while,& he is relaxed more & i am very pleased to hear that you all enjoy reading this thread & happy to chat to jason & me.... karen

[banjo]

thanks paul cody seems fine slept well just heat an not eating his lunch i think high school is to exciting to worry about eating to busy playing league or soccer (not aerial ping pong lol)
thanks karen

[Ausfree]

Karen, I thought when I invited Jason, to go with me up to Maitland it might have been a big ask, but then again I invited him because he would have been in a Landy (even though he reckons there not proper ones) and we could have discussed Landies. However, I expected him to say no, but that is good he is making some progress. Even though I have also been through the mill in my life, getting out and about doesn't worry me, but everybody is different. I still have flashbacks though. Any way my thoughts are with you and Jason. Cheers:D:D:D

[banjo]

Thankyou ausfree ,atleast jason said no before he would just makeup some excuse as to why he couldnt go sleepy asked him to go on the outback trip & he **** & paniced as soon as he read it. Also the guy from singleton we dont know how to say his name (sorry), asked him us if we wanted to go to camping at lake st clair you should of seen him then nearly in cold sweats ..that in itself is a huge step for him & i know when he read it he paniced & didnt know what to say or do..but he told the truth..& i know in myself he will be able to do things in time..
thanks karen.

[Sleepy]

sleepy asked him to go on the outback trip & he **** & paniced as soon as he read it.

Yeah I'm panicking too - 2 weeks in a Series 3 Diesel - Ahhhh :o I'm gonna go deaf.:lol2: Sorry to give you the freaks Jason, just trying to be friendly.:):):)

You know what Fatty and Jason, like ausfree, I never expected you guys to say yes. And it certainly doesn't offend me if you say no. Maybe one day.:)
Dinga doesn't want to come either - she values her hearing too much.:o:):p

Sometimes Jason, you can just imagine going somewhere (what do those hippies call it?) "transcendental meditation". My daughter and I used to do it. Close you eyes and imagine - you can "travel" anywhere!....if it gets a bit scary all you have to do is open your eyes.
(Kinda the opposite to 4wding, cause then I close my eyes when it gets scary!:lol2:)

[banjo]

YEP i glued all that foam matting in mine & i still cant hear the radio..
i like your wagon seen it when you first showed it on here.
should be a great trip in it are the kids going with you ??
I can remember going camping heaps up at Barrington tops as a kid we use to stay at white rock camping area it had a natural water slid in the rock loved it .untill the old man ha that one to many anyway...
I would love a wagon or a SWB for my next project....

[Sleepy]

Yeah an nice S2A 88" would be nice (or maybe a S3 GAME) but no room at the moment :(
Nah going solo.
Earplugs will be my friend :lol2:

[Narangga]

G'day mate - back for me weekly fix. :D

Good to hear the real estate guy is going to do the right thing - especially after 15 years with him. I'm sure something will work out for the best soon. But isn't that why we all drive Landies? ;)

Know you've been busy and are taking things one day at a time (which is the best thing for all of us to do) but have you done any more on the tyre carrier for Christine yet? Gee I wish I had the mechanical skills you obviously have listening to you talking with Ausfree.

Keep on keeping on mate.:thumbsup:

[DeanoH]

YEP i glued all that foam matting in mine & i still cant hear the radio..
....

Dunno if foam matting will do much for you? I put this stuff in the OKA and it is brilliant. Theres a 4 litre Turbo Perkins under there, makes the SIII seem as quiet as a Rolls Royce by comparison.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/1053.jpg

BTW Don't get stressed mate, take it easy', little steps, one day you'll get there. Look at the bright side, people care. Like in 'Lion King" Akuna-matata.

Deano

[banjo]

Dunno if foam matting will do much for you? I put this stuff in the OKA and it is brilliant. Theres a 4 litre Turbo Perkins under there, makes the SIII seem as quiet as a Rolls Royce by comparison.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/1053.jpg

BTW Don't get stressed mate, take it easy', little steps, one day you'll get there. Look at the bright side, people care. Like in 'Lion King" Akuna-matata.

Deano

Hey i like the look of that stuff should of put some of that down first..

[banjo]

Hey dale i'm in the process of making the top mounting bracket will put some more pics up tomoz after i have finished welding it..Fatty's going up to ALL4X4 this week to find out how much 4 bushes are..
The way i am making it there wont be any weight on the rear door,the rear door i have on it has already cracked from the weight of a tyre by the previous owner...Plus i have to make some sort of bracket for the bottom & where the pivot will be on the door .....

[banjo]

Well went out again this mornin went to look for some scrap metal up behind our place ,we have an industrial area so off we went.well everyone now locks there scrap bins inside & i couldnt get any, but we did find a sheet of checher plate about 2m X 1m just fitted in the rover..:eek:
Was sitting down having lunch when Fatty says its valentines day today..Ah well atleast i took you out to get some scrap,her reply was YOUR SO ROMANTIC ARENT YOU ,My response was atleast it was in the bloody landrover what more could you want..:p
She hasnt realy said much since then..dont know why...:wasntme:

Hey Dale i did some more to the rear wheel carrier & the pics are up..

[banjo]

Hey AUS hows the freelander going.hasnt died again yet has it. :eek:.you workin this week i'll keep an eye out for ya..
See if you had a series that $1600 could of brought you a complete one for spares..LOL..:wasntme:

[Narangga]

Well went out again this mornin went to look for some scrap metal up behind our place ,we have an industrial area so off we went.well everyone now locks there scrap bins inside & i couldnt get any, but we did find a sheet of checher plate about 2m X 1m just fitted in the rover..:eek:
Was sitting down having lunch when Fatty says its valentines day today..Ah well atleast i took you out to get some scrap,her reply was YOUR SO ROMANTIC ARENT YOU ,My response was atleast it was in the bloody landrover what more could you want..:p
She hasnt realy said much since then..dont know why...:wasntme:

Hey Dale i did some more to the rear wheel carrier & the pics are up..

How ungrateful! What more could she want - you taking both the women in your life out together on Valentines Day!

Had a look at the pics of the carrier. All you need is the bushes and it will be full steam ahead.

What colour will you paint it?

[banjo]

Just black rust paint..

[banjo]

No, didn't change the filters, he seemed to think it wasn't necessary, but he reckons one of the clutches is worn because the fluid had a slight burnt smell to it. Oh, sorry you can't make it, would've been a good time to have a chat. Maybe next time!!!:D:D

Hey AUS you can buy clutch packs for auto boxes there not to expensive its more the labour for taking the box out & pulling down to put the new ones in.& if you get all the mesurements of your clutch pack you can look around & more than likely you could get a heavy duty pack..shame its not a turbo box i have a brand new heavy duty clutch pack & a manual shift valve body in the shed some where..i'll find it when we have to clean out for the move..plus if it was a turbo box i could do it for you...& it wouldnt cost you a thing as i already have everything..

PS if it had water in it wouldnt it make sence to change the filters,from what i can remember with mine i couldnt get the water out as the filter are so fine..if he had changed the filters & realy flushed it it would be ok you just have to make sure all traces of water (coolant) is out..i never had trouble with mine after doing that...

i dont mean to sound abrupt or sarcastic i just think the filters should of been changed....& i cant stand machanics taking advantage of people..
I use to do the services on old toms car & his daughters as the machanic was charging then $80 just to change the oil...
& i would of just changed the radiator over in your car since it was split i recon there mite be a chance it mite go again unless they replace the whole bottom tank.....BUT I COULD BE WRONG & HAPPY TO BE PROVED WRONG.....

[banjo]

Well its a very crapy low day today i got some bad news on the weekend .remember old tom i told use about,well karen called in to see his wife for me to see how she was traveling, & it turns out its just got worse for her.there daughter was just diagonsed with ovarian canser & it was only found because she had a cold.well after going through all the stuff at the hospital when she had the opperation the doc walked out looked at them all in the waiting room then loked all around the room found a tissue box went & pick it up went over to the family & said we took out a tumor the size of this tissue box...then to top it off the keemo she is on is the lowest posable ,they tried her on the strongest & the medium & she went into anapharlaktic shock with both of them..if she was on the strong one she would have a 70% chance a beating it & about 50% on the medium one ,..they have given her a 20% chance on this one she on ,she calls it the home brand..shes in good spirits.
I found out when old tom use to call in he would allways say to me just calling in to make sure your not dead he would call in every week just to check up on me for that reason...I found out he was realy worried about my depression cause i was fighting it bad at the time before he died...
now his wife on top of all her troubles is worried about why i havent been out in the shed working at all as she goes past regularly..
& was asking karen how i was as she knows i was close to tom so karen told her that i had taken his death hard but stop worring about him he has me & now he has made some friends to talk with.& is finaly relaxing a bit & chating to people..but i think she will allways worrie cause its her nature she is such a loverly lady & i feel so bad for them at the moment...
So thats about it for today i am so sick of this depresion part of my problem i get so down & i wont take any drugs for this part as they are all so addictive i dont want that on top of it...
Ah well i will have the pamphets to do at lunch time ,mite take my mind off a few thing i hope.. :confused: [bigsad] i feel like this :toilet:..

[banjo]

Well we only had 1200 pamphlets today wooohooo...

[series3]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Hey Banjo I really like your series mate, my family is from the maitland area so when I'm around I'll keep an eye out for your green machine.

Did your 2a have a Holden engine as well?

Sam

[banjo]

Hi sam this one is blue 202 the yellow one s2a was red 173 before that one was a 61 2a diesel 2.25 before that one was a s3 2.25 before that one was a s2 red 179 & before that one was a s3 baby poo colour 2.25.All LWB i would like to do a SWB now or a wagon...
the green one now has limo tint on the side & rear windows & slider steps looks better anyway.

[Ausfree]

Yeah, doubt if that "turbo" clutch plate would fit, Banjo, the motor is a rover V6 mounted sideways and attached to a "Jatco" 5 speed auto tranny. Apparently the tranny is Japanese, built by Nissan as it is on a few of the Japanese cars. Being a newby to Landrovers and with them using terms like "Tiptronic Change" I thought it was a BMW box. But I have been proven wrong, I have spoken to a few mechanics and they all say it WILL fail after water entered the tranny. Even the fluid they use is a special synthetic type ( I have the oil type written down here somewhere).
When I took the car to Bob Hunt last week he gave it a full flush, and he has just refilled it with the same fluid they use in Fords, he couldn't see the sense of spending all that money on the right fluid when it is just a waste.
The tranny fluid does not go into the radiator but into a cooler that is mounted behind the radiator, and cooled by radiator coolant. Bob has recommended that should I decide to replace the tranny to put a cooler in from the diesel model which is air cooled, so I won't have the same problem again.
Thank you for your offer, but as I said I don't think the clutch pack you have is the right one. Cheers Mate:D:D

Always open to suggestions from an old 'Rover Professional" such as yourself though!!!!:):)

[banjo]

No worries AUS just thought of it thats all..so whats the new one going to be ,disco,defender or a real series .....
That under $10,000 yard on the corner of the main road had a beauty green disco there a couple of months ago i think they had $6000 on it .....
Hey you could allways just let your wife drive it all the time & when it breakes again say aaaahhhhhhh you broke my rover she mite let you get what you want & just get a little car for her to pickup her parents in...tell her it would be more comfortable & easier to get into for them....LOL..:wasntme:

[Ausfree]

Have'nt written the Freelander off yet, both my wife and myself like it so a final descision will be made when Bob Hunt gets a price on a relacement tranny. No rush the car is going fine at the moment. Apparently you can get new ones from China??? of all places. The cost will not be less than $3000.:eek::eek: So we have to weigh that up against trading the car after owning it for 6 months and taking a loss of maybe $5000 to $6000:(:( So you can see we are in a corner. As I have said before the car bodywise is in mint condition.:):)

[banjo]

I was just yankin your chain...na i hope all goes well with the freelander & you can get in the bush for some fun.....

[Ausfree]

I was just yankin your chain...na i hope all goes well with the freelander & you can get in the bush for some fun.....
Are you coming too???:D:D

[banjo]

I could only hope ,but we do love going upto hillborough quarry its fun but karen said its all been block off..kids love getting old stuff to slide down the hills on,car doors & bonnets mainly..

[banjo]

HHHHMMMMMMMMMM i made it to wizard ..so what come next & at what leval of posts...

[Ausfree]

HHHHMMMMMMMMMM i made it to wizard ..so what come next & at what leval of posts...CONGRATULATIONS on becoming a Wizard!!!!!:D:D

[banjo]

Took these while we were out this morin nothing special just thought i could so i did..first 2 were just at aldi..

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3864/sdc10578x.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/sdc10578x.jpg/)

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4046/sdc10577s.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/sdc10577s.jpg/)

these ones where taken at a little spot i found...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/sdc10579e.jpg/)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/sdc10581.jpg/)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/sdc10580n.jpg/)

We realy need to get a life i think or out more as such..

[banjo]

Fatty took these while out visiting later but it was only the new guy there & he doesnt know fatty to well so she just took some pics..she calls in to see peter & say G'day & some times takes him up some crossiants..
She a big suc..na we know peter & fatty just likes to go & chat , mite be the pommy accent..

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3581/p1602101013.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/p1602101013.jpg/)

This one would make a good business card..

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/p1602101012.jpg/)

i'm bored..

[Ausfree]

G'Day Banjo my missus was in the Aldi carpark this arvo, watchit there now you have to get a ticket from a machine and you have two hours of free parking after which I believe you are fined. My missus said there was a guy wandering around checking the tickets. I also have been down to ALL4x4 on several occasions, but I am not known down there and I find the staff not all that friendly. They are OK but a smile would go a long way. Cheers mate:D:D

[DeanoH]

This one would make a good business card....

Here you go then.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/807.jpg

Only problem, Hmm...............The drivers side door seems to be a different shade of green. Come on 'fess up. Or is it that the rest of the paintwork has faded more?:D

Deano

[HBWC]

nice pics of the s3

[DeanoH]

Though I like this one best.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/809.jpg

Deano

[DeanoH]

...................watchit there now you have to get a ticket from a machine and you have two hours of free parking after which I believe you are fined. . Cheers mate:D:D

Don't know what the rules are up there, but down here such fines have no legal standing. They're just bull****. But if having the man with the bag and the peaked hat stops people being selfish and inconveniencing others then well and good.

Deano

[banjo]

Though I like this one best.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/809.jpg

Deano


Hey you know why this pics is so good Fatty says that the car is sooooo good that even god likes it & is shining on it,...

[banjo]

Here you go then.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/807.jpg

Only problem, Hmm...............The drivers side door seems to be a different shade of green. Come on 'fess up. Or is it that the rest of the paintwork has faded more?:D

Deano


Yeah we ran out of paint & we went & got some more made up told the guy we wanted 2lts he made 3lts & made us pay for the 3lts & then stuffed up cause they couldnt match it & they where the ones that mixed the first lot..
it was a custom mix & they wrote it all down when doing the first lot & still cocked up.. i do a lot of spray painting & now we have a new paint surplyer..
the old mob put all new guys in & went down hill from then we found out off some other guys that had the same trouble...

[DeanoH]

Hey you know why this pics is so good Fatty says that the car is sooooo good that even god likes it & is shining on it,...

More like we all drive Land Rovers so need all the help we can get! :D

Deano

[banjo]

G'Day Banjo my missus was in the Aldi carpark this arvo, watchit there now you have to get a ticket from a machine and you have two hours of free parking after which I believe you are fined. My missus said there was a guy wandering around checking the tickets. I also have been down to ALL4x4 on several occasions, but I am not known down there and I find the staff not all that friendly. They are OK but a smile would go a long way. Cheers mate:D:D

The kids leave for school early now bout 8.15 so we left & went down to bilo to get some boxes they saving for us to pack our stuff in but they hadnt had the delivery yet so i went straight to aldi to get some at 8.30..well i was finishing a smoke then went to get out & karen said they dont open till 9, WHAT i'm hanging aroud till then so we took some pics & left..
the other 3 where taken at the old soccer club behind the squash courts just up the road..

[DeanoH]

Yeah we ran out of paint & we went & got some more made up .............

And heres me thinking you'd dinged the door and had to get it fixed! Shame on me.
When I had my old SIIA I used to buy my tail-lights/indicators in boxes of a dozen as I would always be backing into things. No kidding, cheaper this way.:wasntme:Yes it was!

Deano

[Ausfree]

Don't know what the rules are up there, but down here such fines have no legal standing. They're just bull****. But if having the man with the bag and the peaked hat stops people being selfish and inconveniencing others then well and good.

Deano Yeah, there was a story on TV about a month ago about this mob in Sydney, apparently they are pretty quick to issue $88 fines if you are a minute over time, my wife said there was a bloke paying pretty close attention to the tickets in windscreens of cars parked there. They make there money out of issuing "fines" which I believe have no legal standing. Apparently they can get you for breaking a "contract" that you make when you enter their carpark. I think it stinks.:mad:

[DeanoH]

Yeah, there was a story on TV about a month ago about this mob in Sydney, apparently they are pretty quick to issue $88 fines if you are a minute over time, my wife said there was a bloke paying pretty close attention to the tickets in windscreens of cars parked there. They make there money out of issuing "fines" which I believe have no legal standing. Apparently they can get you for breaking a "contract" that you make when you enter their carpark. I think it stinks.:mad:

Same exercise down here. But it's still all bull****. Remember, they have to take YOU to court and prove that YOU have entered into a contract which YOU have renegged on. These people work on the average persons ignorance of the legal system and their fear of going to court. Scumbags basically. What did Daryl say in "The Castle" ...........tell 'em to get *******. Got to be careful here, family thread.

Deano

[Ausfree]

Hey Banjo, I know you think a Freelander is not a "real" Landy, but what do you think of my new spare wheel cover I bought on Fleabay, they are hard to get for FL1's and I have been looking for ages. Got this one from Western Australia of all places. I wanted a wheel cover with the "Landrover" logo on it, but I did'nt want any advertising for a product. I hit the jackpot because this one also had "Freelander" on it. Whaddya reckon!!!:D:D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/802.jpg

[DeanoH]

. Whaddya reckon!!!:D:D


Even better if it went!

Sorry, cruel of me. Whats the go with the gearbox, gone to heaven or what?

Deano

[banjo]

Hey aus you own a new landrover so you rarely need to get parts ,,All mine have been series there for i need parts regularly karen use to visit every week building this one sometime twice a week for 3 years,, ching ching..:eek:


Karen said a lot of the workers down at the new woolies park there thats why you now have to pay..
Karen use to work at the french hot bread shop opposit aldi on the other side of woolies she still does when the owner wants to go back home for visits (Viatnam) & they are having heaps of trouble down there with the workers..
theres many days they get into arguments over it..

Where they are doing the work there on the main rd side is just crap,i nearly smashed into a cop this mornin he turned into bilo street & i was right behind him when he desided to stop to chat to the hairdresser who was unloading her car in the no standing right on the corner.i dont think he was very inpressed cause i was about an inch off him to get out of the trafic coming up from the lights & i kept moving forward so he had to move he was giving dirty looks in his mirror i just smiled & kept moving forward he got the shats & moved wasnt happy though....:wasntme:

[Ausfree]

You are being cruel, the car is running great at the moment, but descisions have to be made, because as I have already said the gearbox will not last!!!:(. Six months tops according to those who "know"!!;)

[banjo]

Hey Banjo, I know you think a Freelander is not a "real" Landy, but what do you think of my new spare wheel cover I bought on Fleabay, they are hard to get for FL1's and I have been looking for ages. Got this one from Western Australia of all places. I wanted a wheel cover with the "Landrover" logo on it, but I did'nt want any advertising for a product. I hit the jackpot because this one also had "Freelander" on it. Whaddya reckon!!!:D:D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/802.jpg

Its nice i have never seen one with freelander on it looks good.
Karen & i buy plain ones & i airbrush them although we usually do pictures not logos,havent done one for awhile mite have to get a blank one for ours.

[Ausfree]

Hey aus you own a new landrover so you rarely need to get parts ,,All mine have been series there for i need parts regularly karen use to visit every week building this one sometime twice a week for 3 years,, ching ching..:eek:


Karen said a lot of the workers down at the new woolies park there thats why you now have to pay..
Karen use to work at the french hot bread shop opposit aldi on the other side of woolies she still does when the owner wants to go back home for visits (Viatnam) & they are having heaps of trouble down there with the workers..
theres many days they get into arguments over it..

Where they are doing the work there on the main rd side is just crap,i nearly smashed into a cop this mornin he turned into bilo street & i was right behind him when he desided to stop to chat to the hairdresser who was unloading her car in the no standing right on the corner.i dont think he was very inpressed cause i was about an inch off him to get out of the trafic coming up from the lights & i kept moving forward so he had to move he was giving dirty looks in his mirror i just smiled & kept moving forward he got the shats & moved wasnt happy though....:wasntme:
I am a customer of the barber in Harrison St; and he tells me the same thing. I can't understand it, if the workers and business owners block up all the car parks, how are they going to get customers?:thumbsdown:

[banjo]

Hey Banjo, I know you think a Freelander is not a "real" Landy, but what do you think of my new spare wheel cover I bought on Fleabay, they are hard to get for FL1's and I have been looking for ages. Got this one from Western Australia of all places. I wanted a wheel cover with the "Landrover" logo on it, but I did'nt want any advertising for a product. I hit the jackpot because this one also had "Freelander" on it. Whaddya reckon!!!:D:D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/802.jpg

I like the midle brake light i wouldnt be able to contain myself i would paint it up to look like a cartoon alien sticking its head out from behind the wheel..

[banjo]

I am a customer of the barber in Harrison St; and he tells me the same thing. I can't understand it, if the workers and business owners block up all the car parks, how are they going to get customers?:thumbsdown:

They where cuting my hair when i was a kid when there where up the back opposit the pub..hes a nice bloke ,i keep geting his & his brother from walsends names mixed ,paul & david..

[banjo]

I like your plate,,
AAAAHHHH 12 hp
i thought they had more horse power than that...:Rolling::Rolling:

[Ausfree]

I don't know why they made the centre stop light like that, possibly something to do with the rear window being able to raise an lower, which is good because you can get a nice breeze through the car if you lower slightly the front left window and lower the rear window.I still think they could have intergrated the stop light above the window in the frame or something. Looks like that alien who "phones home" or something. the car by the way is not "new" it is a 2001 model.:D:DThe engine is a Rover V6, which is only 2.5 litres but develops 130KW of power. Goes OK but I would have thought if you are going to make a V6 at least make it a 3 litre, but thats the Poms for you.:):)

[DeanoH]

I like the midle brake light i wouldnt be able to contain myself i would paint it up to look like a cartoon alien sticking its head out from behind the wheel..

I'm with you on this one.:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/798.jpg

That dinky little tail light needs to be turned into something not, well, limp wristed shall we say.:eek:

Deano

[DeanoH]

:D:DThe engine is a Rover V6, which is only 2.5 litres but develops 130KW of power. Goes OK but I would have thought if you are going to make a V6 at least make it a 3 litre, but thats the Poms for you.:):)

What was the last engine Rover designed that was any good......................................hmm. Too hard? One things the pomms, especially Rover, have never been any good at is designing engines. Always too small, too under powered, too complicated, too heavy etc. But brilliant body/coachwork. The Yanks on the other hand always made good engines but couldn't design a decent car to save their lives.


Deano

[Ausfree]

I'm with you on this one.:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/798.jpg

That dinky little tail light needs to be turned into something not, well, limp wristed shall we say.:eek:

Deano Hey, I like "The Martian" he is one of my favourite cartoon characters!!! Along with Wiley Coyote, Yosemite Sam, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Road Runner, I can go on. love em all!!!!:D:D

[Ausfree]

What was the last engine Rover designed that was any good......................................hmm. Too hard? One things the pomms, especially Rover, have never been any good at is designing engines. Always too small, too under powered, too complicated, too heavy etc. But brilliant body/coachwork. The Yanks on the other hand always made good engines but couldn't design a decent car to save their lives.


Deano You're right there mate, this engine is very complicated/computerised, the engine is brilliant when it is going and I love that Rover V6 exhaust note, it is unique. However, I have found the motor is very touchy, with a record of slipped cylinder liners etc, you would think in this day and age these sort of problems would be a thing of the past it is nearly as bad as the K1.8 litre four cylinder version, which I believe is a real headache. :o:)

[banjo]

You're right there mate, this engine is very complicated/computerised, the engine is brilliant when it is going and I love that Rover V6 exhaust note, it is unique. However, I have found the motor is very touchy, with a record of slipped cylinder liners etc, you would think in this day and age these sort of problems would be a thing of the past it is nearly as bad as the K1.8 litre four cylinder version, which I believe is a real headache. :o:)



Na its not a headache its just a landrover thats why we all love them so much.well thats my excuse ....