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DiscoSaffa
28th January 2010, 08:34 AM
Hi All
The weight of our beloved D3s is always a hot topic, but I came across this statement in another thread
“The disco's are an extremely heavy vehicle especially with the ballasting weights around the vehicle. Id like to thing the weight of the vehicle especially laidened, and wrong tyres in soft sand will bog any vehicle.”
It is the first I have ever heard about ballasting weights. Can anyone confirm this, and if so why, where and how much etc etc?
Might explain why the D3 is so much heavier than an RRS………

WhiteD3
28th January 2010, 09:21 AM
yadda, yadda, yadda.....

I've seen these statements everywhere since the D3 came out. The issue is not that it weighs 2486kg (D4 2.7 TDV6 base kerb weight), but how much more does it weigh compared to other vehicles.

FYI an LC200 GXL TD weighs 2720kg kerb weight.

Weights are from the brochures.

DiscoSaffa
28th January 2010, 09:30 AM
yadda, yadda, yadda......

I am with you on this....... bit tired of the debate, but it was the mention of ballasting weights that caught my eye...... it would appear we drive ships...... :D


FYI an LC200 GXL TD weighs 2720kg kerb weight. :eek: interesting...... and that is without the fancy composite chassis....... AND you are stuck with a 200 series LC :angel:

Tote
28th January 2010, 09:36 AM
There are two harmonic balancers behind the rear bumper. There are some threads on their purpose here if you do a search. I'm over the weight argument also, if you need to go somewhere the D3 won't due to it's weight buy a zook, you may notice some decline in the customer experience on the highway though.

Regards,
Tote

Tombie
28th January 2010, 09:43 AM
Its a BS argument anyhow...

My old defender weighed in over 3 tonnes... And went everywhere :cool:

The D3 is doing things far easier in 95% of the situations its been in.

DiscoSaffa
28th January 2010, 09:51 AM
There are two harmonic balancers behind the rear bumper. There are some threads on their purpose here if you do a search. I'm over the weight argument also, if you need to go somewhere the D3 won't due to it's weight buy a zook, you may notice some decline in the customer experience on the highway though.

Regards,
Tote

If that is all they are I gather they are not unique to the D3..... and they can't weigh that much.......

Interesting location for em as well...... :confused:

DiscoSaffa
28th January 2010, 09:52 AM
My old defender weighed in over 3 tonnes... And went everywhere :cool:

a 3 tonne defender..... :eek: that musta been quite a vehicle!!

300+
29th January 2010, 09:30 AM
If that is all they are I gather they are not unique to the D3..... and they can't weigh that much.......

Interesting location for em as well...... :confused:

I can't see them being more than 10KG each (there are two). Modern vehicles all have them and this is not the issue. If you are worried about this don't fill your tank more than a quarter full.

And put down the pie.:wasntme:

Cheers, Steve

Tombie
29th January 2010, 09:59 AM
a 3 tonne defender..... :eek: that musta been quite a vehicle!!

'Lara' - Always was heavy!

Not mentioning the 'fat ballast' in the drivers seat back then!

garryc
29th January 2010, 05:30 PM
Hi All
The weight of our beloved D3s is always a hot topic, but I came across this statement in another thread
“The disco's are an extremely heavy vehicle especially with the ballasting weights around the vehicle. Id like to thing the weight of the vehicle especially laidened, and wrong tyres in soft sand will bog any vehicle.”
It is the first I have ever heard about ballasting weights. Can anyone confirm this, and if so why, where and how much etc etc?
Might explain why the D3 is so much heavier than an RRS………


I weighed my S D3 and it was 2,500kg on the weighbridge. Now that I have bullbar, Kaymar rear bar with 2nd spare and long range tank it is 2800kg. Fill the tanks and put the gear in the back and its close to GVM with 2 passengers. If you have an HSE it starts at 2715kg same as the 200 Cruiser so there's not much you can add without going over GVM:o

rmp
29th January 2010, 05:54 PM
Bear in mind the kerb, or tare weight varies according to the definition used. Land Rover have used the EC definition which includes a 68kg driver and 7kg of luggage. Japanese manufacturers do not, hence the D3 appears heavier. Thus brochure weights are not necessarily exact comparisons.

A D3 is heavier than a RRS because it's longer, and usually has 7 seats.

Hoges
29th January 2010, 06:45 PM
Quote: "If that is all they are I gather they are not unique to the D3..... and they can't weigh that much......."

they're only a couple of Kg each...and are made of some sort of "elastomer" ...you can remove/replace them laying under the truck ... balancing it in one hand and ...:mad:

P38s and (some) helicopters utilise them :eek:...common solution to high frequency vibrations caused by drive lines... (so I'm told...)

WhiteD3
1st February 2010, 12:28 PM
Just glanced through this review on the Prado. Weight quoted is 2435kg.

Toyota LandCruiser Prado Kakadu - www.drive.com.au (http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=68621&vf=14)

DiscoSaffa
1st February 2010, 04:24 PM
Just glanced through this review on the Prado. Weight quoted is 2435kg.

Toyota LandCruiser Prado Kakadu - www.drive.com.au (http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=68621&vf=14)

2435kg of fugly!

rmp
1st February 2010, 05:10 PM
Just glanced through this review on the Prado. Weight quoted is 2435kg.

Toyota LandCruiser Prado Kakadu - www.drive.com.au (http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=68621&vf=14)

The context needs quoting too -- that's for the top-spec diesel auto, equivalent of the D4 HSE. The lightest model in the Prado range is 2210kg.