Overhaul Service

[Kalincho]

About to have the local mechanic do a bit of an overhaul on the old girl, I have been researching what seems to be the fluids of choice to give the local mechanic. (I have been slowly purchasing bits and pieces to supply)

If there are any suggestions / feedback on what else should be done it would be appreciated.

Front and Rear Dif Oil change with Penrite Sin 75. (not sure the last time this was even done!)

Transfer case with Penrite Dextron DX II (ditto)

Motor Oil with Penrite HPR10

spark plugs with Bosch super plus. (read heaps of alternative arguments for Iridium etc but cents makes sense.)

New Serpentine Belt, Pollen filters and air filter. (giving up on the K&N)

Bleeding the brakes and changing pads, front and rear with Bendix pads.

Any advice on Rotors, I don't intend to haul a trailer etc, so at this stage I think slotted and drilled rotors may have to be given the miss ... would anyone argue that it's a must? :confused:

I have looked at the DBA rotors but these are a expensive investment. There is another brand I have researched called Quinton Hazell, has anyone used these rotors before? About half the price of the DBA's

Since the rebuild the motor we changed the auto trans filter and oil and the engine been pretty much refreshed, I have got a light leak which seems to be coming from the oil filter, here is hoping that a new one fixes the problem and it is not leaking from elsewhere! :o

Whats the story on tie end rods, the last report said that they have a bit of play in them, should this be something that needs immediate attention? I have had the bushed on the panhard rods done and have invested in a Bilstein damper, as far as I can tell everything seems fine...;)

Thanks for reading this far, any advice would be a great help.

Cheers

Kalincho.

P.S.

Here is one for all those Air Suspension purists.

I have an issue with the coil conversion after less than a year.. I had King Spings put in by a well known suspension specialist here in WA (who has done many a castration) and now the rear springs seemed to have sagged to a point where the front is noticeably higher than the rear, its already been back once, for an adjustment, though now its worse than before! Here I was thinking it was the end of my suspension troubles!

[Kalincho]

I forgot to mention that the car is a 1995 P38 HSE with a 4.0L motor.

[Hoges]

TF case oil...I use Mobil AgriFluid ..it's for tractors :eek: has quietened the TF case amazingly well. NOT for auto transmissions! Has very high heat tolerance. Got the "good oil" :Rolling: on this stuff from others here and also from rangerovers.net.

Brake rotors: DBA advise against slotted and drilled for normal use. Slotted is OK...but the cross drilled version is designed for serious street use (whatever that means :wasntme::twisted:) and the race track. They are more prone to cracking. Personally I got some Brembo bog standard ventilated rotors listed for the P38 ...about $70 each. Not real happy with the standard Bendix pads I put in. They tend to squeal when used when driving sedately around suburbia...and for the first time I noticed some fade coming down the range from Toowoomba a few weeks ago...admittedly I had 700kg of box trailer...unbraked, but had a minimal load even so... other than that they perform quite creditably.

re. coil springs...yep they do sag. Has a fair bit to do with how they were heat treated. You can get them reset...but ensure the correct spring rate is retained. If they're only a year old I'd seriously consider a warranty claim...

[mike 90 RR]

.. I had King Spings put in by a well known suspension specialist here in WA .... and now the rear springs seemed to have sagged

Kalincho .... Go straight down to the WA distributor for King Springs and show them the problem

West Coast Suspension
188 Railway Pde Bassendean 9378 2133

Mike
:)

[PaulP38a]

You could always supplement the coils with some adjustable poly air springs, adjustable from within the cabin with a switch that controls the air compressor and height/pressure of the air-springs...

I seem to recall that there are few vehicles that have this adjustable and self-levelling capabiity as a standard feature :wasntme:
Then there are the rest that have to add it as an aftermarket option :p

I have a couple of mates with (non-Rangie) vehicles, that have fitted the aftermarket poly air-bag kit (eBay and Air Bag Man) to correct the sagging rear-end. They rave about how good it is to correct for heavy loads and sagging coils.

I just say "yeah, that's cool" and drive off in my EAS-enabled P38A. :cool:

[Kalincho]

Mike, That was the people that put the springs in... I think I will have to take it back again.

[Kalincho]

Mike, no apologies, it was not West Coast Suspension, I had the conversion done at Wilkinson Suspension in Bassendean, do you think that West Coast Suspension will help?

[mike 90 RR]

Mike, no apologies, it was not West Coast Suspension, I had the conversion done at Wilkinson Suspension in Bassendean, do you think that West Coast Suspension will help?

Correctomundo ..... West Coast Suspension are DISTRIBUTORS for King Springs
Now I would not have told you to go there, if they couldn't help .... So YEP, go there :D

My understanding about Kings is that they are prone to sagging .... I have them in my ride and they are 2 years old / Not sagging yet :)

Last time I went to Wilkies ..... I ended up arguing with em in 2 minutes flat, Fancy them saying standard shocks and springs on a RRC aren't suitable & real 4x4 gear .....That got me arked up and then I gave them both barrels of spring rates and the fact's about Boge shocks .... That put them in their place ...... Cripes, all I wanted was some prices .... I blame that on the clothes I was wearing at the time tho, NEVER turn up at mechanics place in a "suit n tie", it does not go down well :(
BUT they do know their trade, My Gen111 V8 SS ute mad mate goes their all the time ... and he recons their Ace :)

Mike
:)

[rofosixone]

just leting you know ,i have had no problems with my atlantic british coil conversion kit which are specialy made to suit p38a rangie"s.
only thing i found is frount drivers side (au version) sat lower due to weight from battery ect ect were before coil conversion with air ,computor would self level it ,even when had a slow leaking flat tyre and frount was going down as air was comeing out of tyre , computor and air bag was self leveling that as well ,was fun to watch as driveing.
any how to fix it ,had to put a round disc or spacer under the coil to make rangie level again (not wonky looking any more now level looking across bonnet ) ,can see pic"s on my photobucket site for what spacer fitting looks like otherwise the old saying you pay for what you get comes to mind ,cheers .

[Hoges]

You could always supplement the coils with some adjustable poly air springs, adjustable from within the cabin with a switch that controls the air compressor and height/pressure of the air-springs...

I seem to recall that there are few vehicles that have this adjustable and self-levelling capabiity as a standard feature :wasntme:
Then there are the rest that have to add it as an aftermarket option :p

I have a couple of mates with (non-Rangie) vehicles, that have fitted the aftermarket poly air-bag kit (eBay and Air Bag Man) to correct the sagging rear-end. They rave about how good it is to correct for heavy loads and sagging coils.

I just say "yeah, that's cool" and drive off in my EAS-enabled P38A. :cool:

:bangin::BigThumb:

[rofosixone]

but if his coils are faulty in such a short timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee /how does the above apply to what hes talking about (his back coils ) .
i would take them back /get them fixed ? or changed or change the coils to a better brand (like mine) which are trouble free instead of puting poly bags inside bad coils or should say fauty made coils ect ect ,hows that above info going to fix his problem.
sorry, not air isue ???????????????.
also can put spacers to raise (cheap why out if not changeing them ) or to fix (expensive way /but still cheaper than air breakdown ) get different brand coils meant ,made and tested for p38a ,not guessed ones .

[Kalincho]

Took the car in and they replaced the rear coils, sits up straight now and all is dandy again. They put longer coils in to balance the car, claiming that the spare wheel and donut gas tank was causing it to sag:(:mad: .. not sure but glad its sorted.

Now for the service!

Ps. ditched the K&N filter and have a brand new paper filter. ;)

[DT-P38]

No offence rofo, but I reckon paul may have been having a dig at the dumping EAS routine kalincho has done... me thinks he was being a funny bugger... or trying to anyway!!!

[Kalincho]

Alas, the EAS is gone, but no smoked lens, front or rear adorn my P38:D;)

[rofosixone]

good to see they fixed your coils kalincho by puting longer ones ,should have measured it better in the first place maybe there use to fixing toyotas ect .
ps to above 2nd thread , DT P38 i only get upset if members dont return new dvds (that cost $45 /$60 each)OR NEW uk MAGS back to library otherwise insults or haveing a go at me dosent worry me /
jealousy its a curse he he he .

[PaulP38a]

No offence rofo, but I reckon paul may have been having a dig at the dumping EAS routine kalincho has done... me thinks he was being a funny bugger... or trying to anyway!!!

damn! you're on to me :D

Serioulsy though, consider the poly air bags if other options fail to support the coils sufficiently.