View Full Version : My Condolences To All Americans
Redback
18th February 2010, 06:22 AM
On Tuesday I was given 2 cans of Budweiser (thanks Phil I think)and that night I sat down to relax and have a nice cold beer:beer: well all I can say is, HOW THE BLOODY HELL DO YOU DRINK THIS STUFF:toilet::spudnikhurler:
This stuff that you call King of beers has got to be THE WORST beer I have ever had:mad:
So my simpathies go to all Americans, so sad:(
Baz.
River
18th February 2010, 06:33 AM
the only good thing is the adds are funny
Rayngie
18th February 2010, 06:41 AM
American's have no idea how to make beer....never have..never will.
or how to drink it for that matter...usually found on the floor after 6 beers which will be the weakest beer any of us will ever have tasted.
I once had a tour through the Coors brewery outside of Denver Colarado, at the time they produced more beer per week than New Zealands entire yearly production, massive place constructed only to make terrible beer....a lot of it.
Chucaro
18th February 2010, 07:16 AM
Their beer with their hot dogs is a lethal combination.
Instead to send the army overseas to "hot spots" they shoul export their beer :D
Hymie
18th February 2010, 07:17 AM
Sam Adams Boston Lager isn't too bad, probably the best of a bad bunch.
JamesH
18th February 2010, 09:30 AM
You picked it - it is the lower standard alcohol levels in the big beer brands that clash with the Australian palate.
There are lots of lovely US beers. Sam Adams, as mentioned here, and Anchor Steam are beers I remember fondly. I'd be surprised if a bit of research didn't reveal the modern boutique brewing movement did not start in the US.
No country deserves the ignominy of being judged by its massed produced beer. Fosters, VB, Export - bleahhh!
Redback
18th February 2010, 09:46 AM
You picked it - it is the lower standard alcohol levels in the big beer brands that clash with the Australian palate.
There are lots of lovely US beers. Sam Adams, as mentioned here, and Anchor Steam are beers I remember fondly. I'd be surprised if a bit of research didn't reveal the modern boutique brewing movement did not start in the US.
No country deserves the ignominy of being judged by its massed produced beer. Fosters, VB, Export - bleahhh!
Not judging the country, just the crap beer;)
I'm not a fan of Fosters or VB either but they are head and shoulders above Budweiser in taste.
I've tasted a few American beers, can't say I liked any of them and I certainly will never drink any of them again.
Baz.
stevo68
18th February 2010, 09:51 AM
You picked it - it is the lower standard alcohol levels in the big beer brands that clash with the Australian palate.
There are lots of lovely US beers. Sam Adams, as mentioned here, and Anchor Steam are beers I remember fondly. I'd be surprised if a bit of research didn't reveal the modern boutique brewing movement did not start in the US.
No country deserves the ignominy of being judged by its massed produced beer. Fosters, VB, Export - bleahhh! Good point...I'd rather drink a bucket of horse **** that drink any of those 3 mentioned. I would have to say the best Australian beers aren't those that are mass produced. I drink beer....probably too much :cool:...and dabbled in many types. Personally don't mind Gold off the tap as a light beer....but out of Oz brews, I tend to drink more the boutique type beer.....better flavour and less preservatives....or a good European beer. I leave the Fosters/VB/Export/Tooheys etc to the bogans :p,
Regards
Stevo
juddy
18th February 2010, 09:52 AM
Budweiser the US ripped the idea from Budweiser Budvar Brewery
History
The original Budweiser Bier or Budweiser Bürgerbräu, was founded in 1785 in České Budějovice (Budweis), Bohemia, which at the time (until 1918) was part of the Habsburg Monarchy. The company began exporting to the US in 1871.[2][3] In the U.S., Anheuser-Busch started using the Budweiser brand in 1876 and registered it two years later.
A second company (now named Budvar) was established in 1895 by mainly Czech brewers, which also started exporting beer under the name Budweiser (being the German way of referring to something from the city such as a beer, while "Budějovický" means the same in Czech). These exports into the US market led to the Budweiser trademark dispute. Negotiations between the three companies, the two from the original town and the American Anheuser-Busch, about using "Budweiser" reached an agreement in 1911 that allowed Anheuser-Busch to use the brand "Budweiser" only in North America.[4]
After World War I the Austro-Hungarian Empire was broken up, a number of new nations were created, including Czechoslovakia. After the fall of communism, both local breweries tried to secure rights to traditional names.
[edit] Trademark dispute
Since three companies had or have trademarks for the name "Budweiser", they have been party to many lawsuits in a number of countries. Because of such disputes, Budvar is sold in the United States and Canada under the label Czechvar.
In the European Union, Budějovický Budvar is recognized as a product with Protected Geographical Indication. However, the trademark rights to the name Budweiser for some products other than beer are owned by Anheuser-Busch.[5]
In early 2007, Anheuser-Busch and Budvar reached an agreement that stated that Anheuser-Busch would market Budvar/Czechvar in the United States and several other countries for an undisclosed fee. However, both sides stated that this did not affect their lawsuits. Czechvar is listed in Anheuser-Busch's product lineup with brief product info sheet.
[edit] Privatisation
On 6 April 2007, Czech Agriculture Minister Petr Gandalovič, whose ministry is in charge of the state-owned company, announced that the Budvar brewery would be privatized. Gandalovič repeated the possible privatization process would depend on the outcome of the trademark dispute with Anheuser-Busch.
[edit] Brands
Budweiser Budvar Czech Premium Lager / Czechvar (Red, white, and Golden Label): The classic Budějovický Budvar lager. Contains 5% alcohol by volume.
Budweiser Budvar Pale Beer (Silver, white, and Golden Label): Marketed as a more accessible beer than the red label. Contains 4% alcohol by volume.
Budweiser Budvar Premium Dark Lager (Black Label): This beer is brewed in the same style as the red label, but is brewed from three different kinds of barley malts. Contains 4.7% alcohol by volume.
Budweiser Budvar non-alcoholic beer (Green Label): A non-alcohol version. Contains a maximum of 0.5% alcohol by volume.
Bud Super Strong (Dark Red Label): This beer is marketed as the super-premium member of the Budvar family. Contains 7.6% alcohol by volume.
Budweiser Budvar Yeast Lager: Unlike the other Budvar beers, Yeast Lager is served in kegs, not bottles. 5% alcohol by volume.
Pardál: Budvar calls Pardál "the perfect beer for sharp and full bitter flavoured beer lovers." Contains 3.8% alcohol by volume.
Budějovický Budvar is marketed under the label Czechvar in North America. The same label with a green bottle is used in Canada.
Budějovický Budvar is marketed as such in Australia
Budějovický Budvar is marketed as Budweiser Budvar in Europe
[edit] Advertising
In 2002, Budějovický Budvar set up a subsidiary company in the UK, Budweiser Budvar UK Limited, and saw a dramatic rise in sales for Budweiser Budvar in the UK, where the brand gained far wider distribution. For the start of the 2002-03 Scottish football season, Budweiser Budvar began sponsoring Scottish First Division side Falkirk F.C.. In the 2002-2003, Falkirk won the First Division but were denied entry to the Scottish Premier League as the member clubs voted out their groundsharing proposals. Budweiser Budvar UK Ltd subsequently released a statement confirming their continued sponsorship of Falkirk in spite of this setback showing support for the club. Budweiser Budvar continued to sponsor Falkirk F.C. for another two seasons when Falkirk won the First Division again in 2004-2005 in the new Falkirk Stadium and were this time promoted to the SPL as a fitting end to Falkirk's Budweiser Budvar era.
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Redback
18th February 2010, 10:04 AM
I brew my own and drink that mostly now and have done for a few years now, but I still buy beer too, a good beer should have an after taste, the bud I drank didn't, I might as well had a glass of water.
I like to buy differant beers from differant countries, just to try them, as well as the micro brewary beers of OZ.
Baz.
Redback
18th February 2010, 10:08 AM
Budweiser the US ripped the idea from Budweiser Budvar Brewery
History
The original Budweiser Bier or Budweiser Bürgerbräu, was founded in 1785 in České Budějovice (Budweis), Bohemia, which at the time (until 1918) was part of the Habsburg Monarchy. The company began exporting to the US in 1871.[2][3] In the U.S., Anheuser-Busch started using the Budweiser brand in 1876 and registered it two years later.
A second company (now named Budvar) was established in 1895 by mainly Czech brewers, which also started exporting beer under the name Budweiser (being the German way of referring to something from the city such as a beer, while "Budějovický" means the same in Czech). These exports into the US market led to the Budweiser trademark dispute. Negotiations between the three companies, the two from the original town and the American Anheuser-Busch, about using "Budweiser" reached an agreement in 1911 that allowed Anheuser-Busch to use the brand "Budweiser" only in North America.[4]
After World War I the Austro-Hungarian Empire was broken up, a number of new nations were created, including Czechoslovakia. After the fall of communism, both local breweries tried to secure rights to traditional names.
[edit] Trademark dispute
Since three companies had or have trademarks for the name "Budweiser", they have been party to many lawsuits in a number of countries. Because of such disputes, Budvar is sold in the United States and Canada under the label Czechvar.
In the European Union, Budějovický Budvar is recognized as a product with Protected Geographical Indication. However, the trademark rights to the name Budweiser for some products other than beer are owned by Anheuser-Busch.[5]
In early 2007, Anheuser-Busch and Budvar reached an agreement that stated that Anheuser-Busch would market Budvar/Czechvar in the United States and several other countries for an undisclosed fee. However, both sides stated that this did not affect their lawsuits. Czechvar is listed in Anheuser-Busch's product lineup with brief product info sheet.
[edit] Privatisation
On 6 April 2007, Czech Agriculture Minister Petr Gandalovič, whose ministry is in charge of the state-owned company, announced that the Budvar brewery would be privatized. Gandalovič repeated the possible privatization process would depend on the outcome of the trademark dispute with Anheuser-Busch.
[edit] Brands
Budweiser Budvar Czech Premium Lager / Czechvar (Red, white, and Golden Label): The classic Budějovický Budvar lager. Contains 5% alcohol by volume.
Budweiser Budvar Pale Beer (Silver, white, and Golden Label): Marketed as a more accessible beer than the red label. Contains 4% alcohol by volume.
Budweiser Budvar Premium Dark Lager (Black Label): This beer is brewed in the same style as the red label, but is brewed from three different kinds of barley malts. Contains 4.7% alcohol by volume.
Budweiser Budvar non-alcoholic beer (Green Label): A non-alcohol version. Contains a maximum of 0.5% alcohol by volume.
Bud Super Strong (Dark Red Label): This beer is marketed as the super-premium member of the Budvar family. Contains 7.6% alcohol by volume.
Budweiser Budvar Yeast Lager: Unlike the other Budvar beers, Yeast Lager is served in kegs, not bottles. 5% alcohol by volume.
Pardál: Budvar calls Pardál "the perfect beer for sharp and full bitter flavoured beer lovers." Contains 3.8% alcohol by volume.
Budějovický Budvar is marketed under the label Czechvar in North America. The same label with a green bottle is used in Canada.
Budějovický Budvar is marketed as such in Australia
Budějovický Budvar is marketed as Budweiser Budvar in Europe
[edit] Advertising
In 2002, Budějovický Budvar set up a subsidiary company in the UK, Budweiser Budvar UK Limited, and saw a dramatic rise in sales for Budweiser Budvar in the UK, where the brand gained far wider distribution. For the start of the 2002-03 Scottish football season, Budweiser Budvar began sponsoring Scottish First Division side Falkirk F.C.. In the 2002-2003, Falkirk won the First Division but were denied entry to the Scottish Premier League as the member clubs voted out their groundsharing proposals. Budweiser Budvar UK Ltd subsequently released a statement confirming their continued sponsorship of Falkirk in spite of this setback showing support for the club. Budweiser Budvar continued to sponsor Falkirk F.C. for another two seasons when Falkirk won the First Division again in 2004-2005 in the new Falkirk Stadium and were this time promoted to the SPL as a fitting end to Falkirk's Budweiser Budvar era.
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So does this mean you like Budweiser:confused:
korg20000bc
18th February 2010, 10:15 AM
Like Eric Idle asked-
Q. Why's American beer like having sex in a canoe?
A. Its ****ing close to water.
stevo68
18th February 2010, 10:30 AM
So does this mean you like Budweiser:confused: It just means he learnt to cut and paste;),
Regards
Stevo
korg20000bc
18th February 2010, 10:32 AM
You know beer makes you more intelligent?
It certainly made Bud wiser. Boom boom!
Hymie
18th February 2010, 05:53 PM
I brew my own and drink that mostly now and have done for a few years now, but I still buy beer too, a good beer should have an after taste, the bud I drank didn't, I might as well had a glass of water.
I like to buy differant beers from differant countries, just to try them, as well as the micro brewary beers of OZ.
Baz.
That's why they call American Beer "Sex on the Beach".
Yorkie
18th February 2010, 06:40 PM
not quite american but close enough and inspired by the olympics i just bottled a canadian blonde, interested to see how it tastes.
looks ok but will go back to a regular lager next batch.
cheers
:D
DeanoH
18th February 2010, 06:50 PM
Budweiser the US ripped the idea from Budweiser Budvar Brewery
History
The original Budweiser......................................... ....................................... Budweiser Budvar era.
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All well and good juddy. It still tastes like crap!
Pretty amazing really. For a country as technically advanced as America, no idea how to make beer. Millers, Coors Bud......all the same, terrible.:(
Deano
justinc
18th February 2010, 09:25 PM
Yup, Dish water tastes better IMHO.
JC
EchiDna
21st February 2010, 06:16 PM
In the US (and most of the rest of the world actually) they typically think we only drink Fosters - this thread only proves one thing to me - ignorance of what is actually drunk in a country is not only the per view of the yanks... *sheesh*
dmdigital
21st February 2010, 06:55 PM
In the US (and most of the rest of the world actually) they typically think we only drink Fosters - this thread only proves one thing to me - ignorance of what is actually drunk in a country is not only the per view of the yanks... *sheesh*
I'd second that.
subasurf
21st February 2010, 07:00 PM
Everyone knows American beer is terrible. However, it's not like Australian beer is all that great either.
I''m yet to find an Aussie beer better than Windhoek Larger or Weihenstephan.
Having said that, there's a Micro Brewery right on the beach here in Fremantle that does make an exceptional wheat beer.
JamesH
22nd February 2010, 10:09 AM
Interesting article in the weekend paper here in Perth about Little Creatures, a boutique brewery in Fremantle and my favourite domestic beer.
They got their inspiration in the US where the boutique breweries were making pale ales. They worried if there was a market here because we only seemed to drink lagers. I don't know why it seemed that they never heard of Coopers who until relatively recently have been a lone voice in quality brewing, but there you go.
bruiser69
22nd February 2010, 10:25 AM
I brew my own and drink that mostly now and have done for a few years now, but I still buy beer too, a good beer should have an after taste, the bud I drank didn't, I might as well had a glass of water.
I like to buy differant beers from differant countries, just to try them, as well as the micro brewary beers of OZ.
Baz.
I do too. Put down a Morgans Blue Mountain Lager with additional ingredients to give it taste similar to Boags Premium. It is only two weeks old but tastes very similar to Boags already. No preservatives , colourings, just pure malt, barley hops and brewing sugar. I even use filtered water so no chemicals.
Unlike commercial force brewed beers, home brew only improves with age.
When I'm forced to brink commercial beers I go for Boags, Beez Neez, Little Creatures & Cascade.
Cheers..B
Redback
22nd February 2010, 05:32 PM
In the US (and most of the rest of the world actually) they typically think we only drink Fosters - this thread only proves one thing to me - ignorance of what is actually drunk in a country is not only the per view of the yanks... *sheesh*
No offence, but I didn't say all Americans drank Bud or did I say anything to hint that's all they drunk.
assuming again (sheesh):mad:
loanrangie
22nd February 2010, 05:37 PM
No offence, but I didn't say all Americans drank Bud or did I say anything to hint that's all they drunk.
assuming again (sheesh):mad:
They need some of Baz's homebrew whiskey to wash the taste out with.
digger
22nd February 2010, 08:25 PM
no preservatives....
great taste...
good range...
aussie owned....
1 word....
COOPERS
DIGGER
Sprint
22nd February 2010, 11:22 PM
a friend of mine once woke up with a monumental hangover and a mouth resembling the proverbial bottom of the budgies cage.....
she grabbed the glass she saw beside her bed, and took one mouthfull.....
she still refuses to accept it was anything other than urine........ even given the few bud cans dtrewn around her house......
probably had the same alcohol content too.....
HBWC
23rd February 2010, 12:15 AM
no preservatives....
great taste...
good range...
aussie owned....
1 word....
COOPERS
DIGGER
agreed motion past its just to expensive in wa
D-Fender
23rd February 2010, 12:40 AM
The trick to yank **** is, you have to already be drunk to drink it.
loanrangie
23rd February 2010, 09:56 AM
Everyone knows American beer is terrible. However, it's not like Australian beer is all that great either.
I''m yet to find an Aussie beer better than Windhoek Larger or Weihenstephan.
Having said that, there's a Micro Brewery right on the beach here in Fremantle that does make an exceptional wheat beer.
At least even the commercial aussie beers have flavour, the yank crap is like water. I like to taste what i'm drinking , i like Windhoek and even Amstel and Castle is not a bad drop. Even some of the east african beers taste better than most yank beers.
disco2hse
23rd February 2010, 10:24 AM
You know beer makes you more intelligent?
It certainly made Bud wiser. Boom boom!
groan :wallbash: :Thump:
:D:p
V8Ian
23rd February 2010, 11:31 AM
Regardless of the label, if it's in the Chillingham fridge it's
Cooper's
disco2hse
23rd February 2010, 11:47 AM
Now you are sadder,bud wiser:angel:(sorry)
So you should be. :p
Redback
23rd February 2010, 03:56 PM
Love Coopers, in fact it's what I was drinking at the AULRO Gathering on the weekend:beer::BigThumb:
Baz.
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