WA DRIVERS BEWARE, REAR FACING MULTANOVAS

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

First time today I have seen it, but the surprise is I haven't heard of it.

Coming home from work tonight and only just around the corner from home. Turned left into Marangaroo Dve off Alexander, got halfway down the hill to see a car flashing its headlights coming the other way.
Checked my speed, all OK. Just up on the left hand side there is a bush they normally hide behind. Looked but couldnt see anything, until, I got about 15m from it. Sure enough std issue Nissan Xtrail wedged up against the tree and the camera buried back in the bush facing the same direction as me!!

I admit, I don't watch the "trial by media" nightly spews but there seems to be nothing on this unless I have missed something somewhere???

Guess now you wont be able to dab the pedal as your brake lights will be showing, but it also means now that the onus is on the owner, not the driver to carry the burden of the fine. With no photo to prove who was driving, think this is just another typical "Police State" mentality grabbing for cash.

However, with the amount of tossers who go flying along this section of Marangaroo Dve, hope it pulls a few off the streets.

I live in numberplate viewing distance of The Avenue in a cul-de-sac and at least every month, there is one accident, nightly 20 or so speeders.

But only the second time I have seen a speed camera anywhere near here.

So although they extend their method of income, they need to focus on where the "core business oportunities" really are.

Cheers

Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Asfar as Im aware,the rear shots are from a dual camera,if you are speeding on approach you get a rear shot too.
Its to get mojobikes and those who have "lost" their front plates!!!
Andrew

[UncleHo]

G'day LOVEMYRANGIE :)

Looks like you have an ex Qld plod that has moved west, up here they park one the side of the road sometimes hidden with the camera by the front bumper, and the "speed camera in use" sign facing at right angles to the road alinement , so if you were standing on the opposite kerb you could read it easily :(

entrapment????:wasntme:

[Rommel]

If the road is single lanes either way, the will capture traffic in both directions.

[mike 90 RR]

So although they extend their method of income, they need to focus on where the "core business opportunities" really are.


They Have ....

Rego stickers are now not being issued .... Now that we don't have a sticker to remind us everyday of when it's due .... Their gonna make a BOMB from all the punters that forgot to pay their rego


AND get this ... on the FAQ's ....

Q ... I wanna borrow me mate's car, How can I tell if the car is licensed??
A ... Ask your mate to show you the papers before driving it
Who ever ask's this Q to ya mates??? .... and you'l get done for driving a UNREGISTERED vehicle!!!!

Q ... I'm driving over East and I have no rego sticker / What do I do??
A ... Make sure you take your license papers complete with the receipt
I love that bit ... Means drive East with no sticker and get pulled up for a license check at every town you pass thru!!! ....


:twisted: the Fuzz are gonna make a KILLING!!!!! :twisted:


...... HA HA HA .......

[ADMIRAL]

No excuses. Takes about 10 seconds to confirm the status on any rego plate.

https://paylicence.dpi.wa.gov.au/webExternal/registration/ The biggest implication is not having any third party insurance if driving an unregistered vehicle. The lawyers must be rubbing their hands at the prospects!

[mike 90 RR]

The lawyers must be rubbing their hands at the prospects!

More winners & grinners ..... :D

It's OK if you own 1 or 2 rides ... But what if you have 3 cars & 3 trailers ....
Life is not B&W .... and the stickers help remind you .... ;)

mmmmm ... can see a new business of supplying "reminder of month Lic due" stickers to sell ...... :angel: (Hang on!!! we already had them once) :confused:

Mike

[Davo]

Yeah . . . I might make some of my own stickers. I always liked being able to tell by just looking at the windscreen.

What a stupid situation.

[cartm58]

you got pencil and paper write yourself a note as to when rego is due, got a pencil and calendar circle the date of renewal, got a computer and outlook or any other software like To Do set up a compute reminder on renewal, got a wife tell her not to forget, stop blaming the police and pollies about not having rego sticker not to remind you to have car registered

[THE BOOGER]

Dont you get rego papers about 1 month before renewal date and as for identifying the driver in NSW they pixalate the drivers face out so you cannot use the photo as proof of driver they want you to do a stat dec that way if they can prove you are lying your in bigger trouble. But having said that dont speed and dont drive unregistered cars no problem:)

PS the onus is on the registered driver to prove they wernt driving and you have to name the driver if you cant its your problem as far as the law goes

[3toes]

If you want a reminder on the windscreen do they still supply those small stickers to remind you when to change the oil? Use one with when the date rego is due. Can place it in the top corner of the windscreen so you see it every time you get behind the wheel.

Here in the UK they have a strange system where you have a cardboard disk you place in a plastic pocket on the windscreen which shows the date the rego is due. It is coloured for the year but in a very subtle colour so you cannot see if it out of date from a distance. It does though have the expiry date hand written on it by the post office when you purchase it.

[p38arover]

Sure enough std issue Nissan Xtrail wedged up against the tree and the camera buried back in the bush facing the same direction as me!!

I realise you are talking of relocatable speed cameras but don't your fixed speed cameras aim at the back of your car like many/most of ours in NSW do?

[Frenchie]

I realise you are talking of relocatable speed cameras but don't your fixed speed cameras aim at the back of your car like many/most of ours in NSW do?

Nope they have up to now been front only. Means bikes can get away with anything.

[JamesH]

I saw what appeared to be a permanent dual facing camera on Leach Highway. It may have been a traffic flow camera, however.

[lardy]

If the road is single lanes either way, the will capture traffic in both directions.

mate do you really own an armoured deefer?

[richard4u2]

i got done about a year ago down at busselton, the camera faces one way but can clock a car traveling towards the camera as well as away , since then been looking at the guide lines for camera operators , they must be more then 100 meters from a speed change , the one that got me was 120 meters from a 90 to 70 speed change on caves road and there is not allowed a metal object in the photo, in mine was a house for sale sign but it was a plastic one, bummer , mine was 79 in a 70 zone

[BMKal]

I realise you are talking of relocatable speed cameras but don't your fixed speed cameras aim at the back of your car like many/most of ours in NSW do?

As far as I know Ron, they don't have any fixed cameras over here yet.

If they do - they are only a new addition to the armoury. They do have "red light" cameras on some intersections in Perth, and there has been some talk of installing dual purpose speeding / red light cameras in some of these locations. They've also been talking about installing fixed cameras in the Graham Farmer Freeway tunnel ever since it was built - but I don't think they have done so yet.

I could be wrong though - haven't been down in Perth driving around for a little while now.

[Hoges]

PS the onus is on the registered driver to prove they wernt driving and you have to name the driver if you cant its your problem as far as the law goes

Yep , a former NSW "national living treasure" discovered that.. !!!:twisted::wasntme:

[Jamo]

Whinge, whinge , whinge....Blah, blah, blah...

If you don't want the camera to get you... DON'T SPEED! (Personally I don't see how it affects Defender drivers anyway!:p)

And..On one hand some of you are saying you think we are becoming a police/nanny state and yet a reminder notice/invoice in the mail one month before the rego is due isn't good enough. You still want the govt to hold your little hands and give you a nice bright sticker, maybe with a cute little animal on it, to remind you AGAIN when your rego is due!

Awwwww.

[Frenchie]

As far as I know Ron, they don't have any fixed cameras over here yet.

If they do - they are only a new addition to the armoury. They do have "red light" cameras on some intersections in Perth, and there has been some talk of installing dual purpose speeding / red light cameras in some of these locations. They've also been talking about installing fixed cameras in the Graham Farmer Freeway tunnel ever since it was built - but I don't think they have done so yet.

I could be wrong though - haven't been down in Perth driving around for a little while now.

The red light camera on Riverside Dve/Barrack St is a combo camera now. I've seen heaps of people get nabbed speeding up to beat the lights. :p

[BMKal]

The red light camera on Riverside Dve/Barrack St is a combo camera now. I've seen heaps of people get nabbed speeding up to beat the lights. :p

Thanks Frenchie - I'll remember that. Not that I'd ever speed up to beat the lights anyway. :angel:

[BST4X4XFA]

Hi there,

Saw a rear facing camera being set-up by the police where the Mitchell split into the James str off-ramp and the Kwinana at around 12 noon. Fortunatly the fender cannot speed on the freeway:cool:.

Cheers,

Jurgens

[bruiser69]

Whinge, whinge , whinge....Blah, blah, blah...

If you don't want the camera to get you... DON'T SPEED! (Personally I don't see how it affects Defender drivers anyway!:p)

And..On one hand some of you are saying you think we are becoming a police/nanny state and yet a reminder notice/invoice in the mail one month before the rego is due isn't good enough. You still want the govt to hold your little hands and give you a nice bright sticker, maybe with a cute little animal on it, to remind you AGAIN when your rego is due!

Awwwww.

Maybe when you get the Porche Cayenne you might change your mind..these are cop magnets:D I think Qld will go same way with rego stickers cause the last ones all peeled of in our deadly (climate change) sun!
We already have some fixed speed cameras which are useless cause all new GPS know where they are. Next comes speed cameras in red light cameras..useless again cause at least last years GPS have all red light cameras logged.
The only idiots these cameras are going to catch are drivers who can't afford a GPS. The way that majority of Qld mobile traps are sited at bottom of hills ,generally behind other vehicles or trees with warning sign AFTER the vehicle is purely revenue raising. The ones I regularly go thru are not black spots, but 80k multilane separated sections with low accident history. Thank God for the drivers in the opposite lanes who flash there lights and deprive these Govt revenue raisers.

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

i got done about a year ago down at busselton, the camera faces one way but can clock a car traveling towards the camera as well as away , since then been looking at the guide lines for camera operators , they must be more then 100 meters from a speed change , the one that got me was 120 meters from a 90 to 70 speed change on caves road and there is not allowed a metal object in the photo, in mine was a house for sale sign but it was a plastic one, bummer , mine was 79 in a 70 zone

I had one at the 80 zone from Mitchell to the Kwinana Freeway interchange where you go under Charles st, just on the bend.
Didn't have to pay it as it wasnt on a straight section of road, and another with a handheld coming down a hill a few months later. I know I was doing the limit, but the linear difference between where he had it focussed on me at the top to the drop in angle he had where had it at the bottom where I pulled up, BIG difference. He was 20m back from the bottom on level ground!

I said to him, "so how fast did it register?' he says "75 but i will give you 72..."
"Really??" I said ..." did you have to drop the angle of the gun as I was coming down??" (this is a 20m drop over about 150m or so...).
Looked at him, said "write me up and I'll see you in court".
He looked at me, put his pen away, closed his book and got the "I'll let you off this time" routine....

ALL readings from a handheld MUST be on level ground!


As for keeping tabs on your rego renewal, wouldn't you just leave your last sticker on there as an annual reminder???? DERRRRRRR:p:p:p

Cheers

Andrew

[HangOver]

radar detectors are legal you know ;)

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

They are, but by the time they go off, your already in the beam. Handhelds now are laser pointed, and Multanovas have crossbeams. Not much you can do but hope!!

Cheers

Andrew

[HangOver]

i think they work ok with the multinova's but your stuffed with the handheld lasers. Only chance you have there is that the cop glances the beam off/through the car in front and hits you for a split second while he targets the car in front.

Still if they save you from one or two tickets they paid for themselves.
Not that I advocate speeding, I rarely go more than 10 over and thats just a $50 fine.

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

Have a look at this page. Police Radar Laser & Speed cameras in Western Australia, detectors, jammers, fines (http://www.delonixradar.com.au/western-australia/)

Had an email come to me some time ago and you used to be able to get it onscren but think now they make you pay for a lot of the info.
But non the less, the info they do provide is quite good.

Cheers

Andrew

[grounded]

right on mate - but don't forget the first thing an insurance company wants after an accident is your gps so they can see where you've been driving, for how long etc etc. they can go against you bigtime!!

[feral]

As for keeping tabs on your rego renewal, wouldn't you just leave your last sticker on there as an annual reminder???? DERRRRRRR:p:p:p

Cheers

Andrew


Arhhh....No.

In Victoria you can be fined for having old registration stickers still attached.

Now, who said it wasn't revenue raising?