Helping forum members

[Psimpson7]

Helping people on this forum can be frustrating.

Back very early in December a member of the forum was having some issues on a Defender.

He basically had suffered a failure of a particular part which caused a critical electrical item to not work.

This aprt wasn’t in stock with LR and would take a while to get.

I had a second hand one in my parts kit which I offered to lend him.

He accepted via PM and I sent it over at my own expense guaranteed next day delivery. He offered to send the postage cost by return but I said not to worry, and just return it when he had the replacement one.

Predictably I haven’t heard from him since….. (He didn’t even email saying he had received it which I would have done)

So I followed up and sent an email a while ago which got no response and have done so again today to see if that generates any reply.

I do have his work address, name and phone number but don’t really feel I should have to chase this. At least an email saying he was still using it and would get it back asap would have been polite, or even that it didnt arrive if it had got lost etc. No reply atall is a bit slack.

Frustrating, and it makes me far less likely to offer help or parts to anyone else unless I know them. spoils it for others IMO

Maybe a refundable deposit is needed!


Rgds
Pete

[Scouse]

:(

Disco?
I thought it was an light relay on a Defender.

[Psimpson7]

Yep Defender sorry... I had been keeping it pretty general but that was a mistake. Defender. edited to correct

[Cap]

Im sorry to hear about your situation Pete. I must say that the people I have delt with on here have been fantastic (for similar situations). I suppose if you look at their post rate (I do), see if they have been around for some time and contributed to the forum then they are most likely safer to deal. On the other hand, if they only have a few posts, joined recently then I wouldnt want to offer anything free until such time that they have 'proven' themselves... which of course is only based on personal judgement.

Hope you get this issue sorted out.

[Killer]

Well I would like to publicly thank you Pete for helping me out, when I had issues with my Defender. All the folk I have dealt with on this forum have been most helpful and generous, I hope you get your part back Pete, and I hope the experience doesn't stop you helping others, your Land Rover knowledge is fantastic.

Cheers, Mick.

[Chucaro]

Im sorry to hear about your situation Pete. I must say that the people I have delt with on here have been fantastic (for similar situations). I suppose if you look at their post rate (I do), see if they have been around for some time and contributed to the forum then they are most likely safer to deal. On the other hand, if they only have a few posts, joined recently then I wouldnt want to offer anything free until such time that they have 'proven' themselves... which of course is only based on personal judgement.

Hope you get this issue sorted out.

I agree 100% with the above post.

[Rayngie]

Stooge,

don't judge everyone by the post count ( although i do get your drift ), i've been around here for years and still only got 400 odd posts!!, and have received a load of help from a bunch of very helpfull people too..

I think if someone's good enough to help you out, then at least reply to his requests for the bits back, maybe the contact details should be passed onto the mods to contact him in a non public manner?.

Ray,

[disco_thrasher]

Pete that sucks big hairy ones

hopefully it sorts itself out shortly if not i have a few work ascioates who will get it back for ya :D

kelvin

[SIImad]

Hey Pete, just remember the old Jackson 5 song "One bad apple don't spoil darn bunch" :). There's always one in the pack, but the majority in this forum are a pretty great bunch of guys and gals.:D

Hope you get some satisfaction regarding the part. :)


All the best,

A.J.

[Ace]

Thats not good mate, communication these days isnt hard and it doesnt take long to shoot off an email or a PM. In some ways they have stolen the item, even though there was a previous argreement that he could borrow it.

I have to say that I have recieved plenty of help from members on here and they have always been great. People going out of their way before trips to pick things up for me, parts just given to me because people didnt need them anymore (thanks Scouse). But in return i do what i can to help others out aswell. Its a two way street.

This is one of the best forums on the internet in these terms and its a shame when someone like this ruins it, as they say there is one in every bunch.

[big guy]

Not good at all and to be honest a bit sad.
There could be certain circumstances that have prevented him from making contact.

No internet, totally forgotten and now feels rotten so he just leaves it.

Give him benefit of the doubt and a quick phone call with the facts and a friendly reminder I do believe is all that is needed and puts your mind at ease.

Just make that call and see where it leads.

You will sleep easy.:)

[FenianEel]

Hey Pete,

You are one the most helpful on aulro. Don't let this dampen your enthusiasm or willingness to help.

There may be extenuating circumstances, but it's not hard to answer a message.

Like life, there are some dead set oxygen thieves and opportunists on here, and i've been unfortunate enough to be stooged, stiffed and stuffed around by a few, even when you're trying to help them.

HOWEVER......, :D they are about 0.0001% of the populous on here. It's full of great, helpful, some humorous, resourceful good natured people.

I'd keep smiling, ask for your part back, and ask the "borrower" to WISE UP;)

[isuzurover]

Sorry to hear that Pete. Hope you get the part or the cash ASAP!

Does the person in question still post on here.

I think Offender90 had a similar experience lending items to someone on here.

[Psimpson7]

Thanks for the replies guys. I agree that the majority of users are great, but it only takes one to cause drama! I will most likely keep offering help to people if I can be of any use!

Interesting to here that Bojan has had similar Ben.

the borrower doesnt apear to have logged in since mid December.

[DeeJay]

Thanks for the replies guys. I agree that the majority of users are great, but it only takes one to cause drama! I will most likely keep offering help to people if I can be of any use!

Interesting to here that Bojan has had similar Ben.

the borrower doesnt apear to have logged in since mid December.

He might be overseas or in hospital, I would keep at him.. you never know.

[DeanoH]

You've either been stooged, the recipients plain forgotten or some major event has happened to push this issue into the background for him.
Call me naive, but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt till I knew better.

Deano:)

[dmdigital]

That really sucks! I've received great help from people on this forum, most recently only last week.

I'd be giving him a call to check if he's "just plain forgotten", but also PM Inc about which user it is.

[Psimpson7]

I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now and follow up with a call at the end of the week if I haven't got a reply back.

Let you all know what happens.

[p38arover]

I know what you mean, Pete.

I've been trying to contact a member for months after I gave him a hand a year ago. He has moved, his phone nos. are no longer connected, and he doesn't respond to emails or PMs.

Like you, I feel betrayed.

[Bundalene]

Sadly, we have experienced the same disappointment with a member about 12 months ago. He had a starting issue with a TD5 Defender and we gave him a loan of a crank angle sensor, on a 'trial and return basis'. We went out of our way to drop off the item as his vehicle wasn't working. He seemed like a really nice guy .....

Several weeks later we sent a PM, asking how he went with his problem, as sensor as this is part of our spares kit for holidays. Got a reply saying sorry - been overseas, problem was a faulty new fuel pump, will send the sensor back.

The item never arrived and after several follow-up PM's ..... we received no further replies...... so I gave up. (A reply saying "I lost it" would have been OK)

But I still help out where I can and will continue to do so as this site is full of fantastic, helpful people.

Pete, I hope you have better luck than I have.

Erich

[disco_thrasher]

Pete i am a firm believer in KARMA

[whitakerb]

Mike90RR came to the rescue for me the day before I went away on a trip, by giving me a spare Ignition amp for my V8 at the time. Thanks again mate. [thumbsupbig] In return, he was after said parts. Unfortunatly I cannot deliver on those parts just yet.

As soon as the parts becaome avail, they are his, and I feel bad that I havent repayed his generosity. So mike if you want another amp in the meantime, just let me know (please)....

Now I'm hoping mike doesnt feel the same way about me as you guys feel in regards to some other Aulroians, but for a lot of people on here, I wouldnt hesitate in handing over parts, or help if you needed it. My only condition is that, they do the same to the next poor bugger...

So for you lot who go out of your way to keep other landys going :twobeers: :twobeers:

Ben

[extreme]

Hi Pete,
sorry to hear that you have been taken advantage of, dont be discouraged. I dont think you could say no to somebody that needs help or advice because thats the type of person you are. Keep up the good work.

regards extreme

p.s. I am even closer to 200 posts after posting this

[Dave_S]

I've had a couple of bad experiences in the past, but like people have said most of the time people are grateful, keep their promises and even throw in some beer.

I remember two things in particular. Once I lent a bloke I knew fairly well a drill press. He was doing a pretty big job so I left it with him a while. When I tried to get it back he dodged me very successfully for about a year, then just admitted that he didn't have it any more and couldn't remember what he did with it. He also said he couldn't afford to replace it and that was that.

Another time I gave someone a sizeable pile of parts to help finish a project vehicle - I was just happy to see them used. I saw them the next week - on eBay:mad:

[Mick_Marsh]

Another time I gave someone a sizeable pile of parts to help finish a project vehicle - I was just happy to see them used. I saw them the next week - on eBay:mad:

Did you buy them back?

[Ean Austral]

Sorry to hear Pete,

I've been lucky enough to be helped out afew times by people on this forum and so far haven't been in a situation to return the favour to either them or others..

Hope it doesn't deter you in future, a call will let you know one way or the other..

Hope it works out..

Cheers Ean

[LandyAndy]

These bad news stories really IRK me.
There are lots of really good people here that go out of their way to help ANYBODY in need.
Ive both given and recieved all in good faith and will continue to do so.
PLEASE DONT BREAK THE WHEEL OF KARMA PEOPLE!!!!
Andrew

[banjo]

Hey i'm willing to help when i can seeing as i dont go out i will always offer advise to anyone that i can & i have garage full of tools that anybody is welcome to borrow or use just as long as they come back thats all i ask...the offer is there for all...

[ADMIRAL]

As a relative newcomer, I would not like to see the behavior of a few taint the help and assistance openly offered by everyone else.

I don't think you need a protocol for this. It really is basic common courtesy. If someone does not have that, it will come back to bite them soon enough.

Hope you get a resolution soon.

[abaddonxi]

I've had a couple that ended not-so-well, but can't have been much, because this has to be third or fourth of these threads I've read, and it's the first time I even recalled those two.

They pale to nothing in comparison to the endless help, parts, courier-ing, and the rest, from everyone else on the forum.

Chalk it up as the price of maintaining forum goodwill.

[rovercare]

2 things to remember in life

1. Not everyone is the same

2. Every dog has its day

The wheel turns round, you'll get screwed sometimes, but, when it comes your turn, it'll pay off:)

[mike 90 RR]

Now I'm hoping mike doesnt feel the same way about me as you guys feel in regards to some other Aulroians,

:D Nope ... It' all good :D


Cause one day ... I'll be up the creek without a paddle ..... and "who ya gonna call" ... :D


Mike

[3toes]

Suggest you make the phone call as you have the number. I know you should not have to however it could be a simple problem like being embarrised about being so slow to return it. Your contact in a helpful polite way could then break the impass. Also until you make the call you do not know what has actually happened. If they then dodge you well that says it all really.

Some time ago I had someone I lent a manual to who then dissapeared and did not reply to any e-mails. Was almost a year later after I had given it up as one of those bad experiences that I found out had died in a car crash days after I sent the manual. Who feels really bad then about what they had said to people.

[Psimpson7]

As promised. An update. I have the part back. It arrived on Wednesday.

He forgot apparently.

All's good :)

Rgds
Pete

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

I to have had help from members on here and they have been great!!! One in particular is a part for my d1. He was kind enough to send it down and I told him I'll fix him up as soon as I can. Now honestly it's been a while now and with other things going on around me I couldn't afford to fix him up but I told him of my situation and he said when ever I can pay him to do so which I am truly greatful for. Thing is there is not a day that goes by where I'm not thinking about paying him. Every week I'm trying to work out way to budget and send the money but can't do it. I keep in touch with him to let him know what's going on though. Sorry to hear about your story but majority of the members on here a bloody fantastic and very helpful and that's what makes this site very popular and great. Be persistant and keep trying cause you never know ones situation.

Good luck

[clean32]

Pete


You have my total sympathy
I have done parts runs from one side of town to the other, road side repairs, Towing as well as the phone diagnostics. My mobile number seems to be freely given about in and around Adelaide. Have called in favors and have been embarrassed as a result.
4 of then since Xmas are posters on here
I didn’t even get a thank you, let alone a cupper

Don’t do it, all it will achieve is you losing your time and depleting your parts stocks

[Armadillo]

I'm of the opinion you do what you can when you can - unfortunately it sometimes there are always a few rotten apples that spoil the cider. I suppose that's life and human nature. What can you do - keep doing what you think is the right thing, be beyond reproach and be true to yourself. Often, things catch up with those who don't.

[pando]

Hi guys,

I can totally sympathize with those affected but please, for the love of landrovers the world over, don't become them despite them.....

the "free" hand up here and there is what makes this site great, don't let the one analhole wreck it for everyone.....

[RobHay]

PM the name and address....pretty sure I know some people who can get ya part back.....and anything else that it is attached to at the time:D:twisted: