Ironman Kit 2" / 40mm

[MuletCRCR]

Hello everyone, I just got a great offer on an Ironman suspension kit (nitrocharger shocks, springs 2" lift) and was wondering if anyone has them on their Discovery and what has been your experience with them. I've allways used OME.

More than their off-road use (which I've heard from some Toyota fellows who use them on the FunRace4x4 in Venezuela that it is very good and strong), I want to know if they are too hard for everyday use/commuting, etc...

I have a Disco2 04 V8 4.6

Thanks!!!
Alfredo

[Riceburner]

I have the IM on my D1 and found its great. The shocks are crap though because they leak and loose compression. I put Procomp shocks on and its fine.

[Jordos D2]

i have the ironman 2inch lift with the foam cell shocks and i love it, i also added 30mm coil spacers for a little more lift and its great i have no complaints and neither does the handbrake (wife) as its her daily driver. i also had the same suspenion in my previous d2 with the nitro shocks and it was ok aswell :BigThumb::BigThumb:

[Rudolf]

I had 2" lift installed in my D2 with Ironman shocks(Gas type) in front and Procomp in the rear.
No problems so far over 40000Km covered.
Found the ride at the back a bit harsch but will change to Ironman shocks and see if it improves.

[Riceburner]

Procomps are softer than IM. Could be the spring rate in the rear.

[Rudolf]

Driving over speed bumps make me believe that the softness is the problem.
The suspension rebounds very quickly with quite a thump.
Will get the IM shocks and see.

[Urban Panzer]

Driving over speed bumps make me believe that the softness is the problem.
The suspension rebounds very quickly with quite a thump.
Will get the IM shocks and see.

Thats interesting, Mines doing the "thump" thing when lifted the extra 2" with the SLS switch (using 2" SLS spacers on rear).

Im leaning to the fact it must be shocks, (still using factory shocks, cannot decide what to buy!!) but trying to work out why it "thumps".

[Tombie]

Thats interesting, Mines doing the "thump" thing when lifted the extra 2" with the SLS switch (using 2" SLS spacers on rear).

Im leaning to the fact it must be shocks, (still using factory shocks, cannot decide what to buy!!) but trying to work out why it "thumps".

Your shock is topping out - getting to maximum extension and the piston is banging into the end of the body of the shock where the rod exits (the Gland)

You need to get longer shocks :cool:

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

What he said.
You can't do a lift from standard without using extended shocks.

[Redback]

Yes what Tombie says, went through the same drama on my first lift (OME 40mm)

Baz.

[Urban Panzer]

Your shock is topping out - getting to maximum extension and the piston is banging into the end of the body of the shock where the rod exits (the Gland)

You need to get longer shocks :cool:

Thanks for confirming my "thoughts"..........strange how its called "topping out" would make more sense to me if it was bottoming out.......:angel:

With extended shocks, any need for brake line extensions in your experience ?

I see your SLS kit relocates the bracket that mounts the brake pipe, mine does not have that, and tbh there is not enough play in the fixed line to drop the bracket anyway.

[TerryO]

Topping out occurs when the shocks are fully extended which limits suspension travel and causes a thump.

Bottoming out is caused by suspension compression where the shock won't compress anymore. Thus the commonly used term bottomimg out.

Neither situation is ideal and should be addressed once experienced as in some extreme circumstances it can be dangerous. You can get both situations arise even if the shocks are the correct length if the shocks have lost their dampening qualities or the spring rates are not in balance with the shocks dampening rates.

It is very important to get springs and shocks that compliment each other, suit the weight of the vehicle and the tasks being asked of it.

If suspenion changes are going to be made that is why its worth the extra dollars to get a suspension expert to set up your vehicles suspenion whether it be car, motorcycle or 4x4. Most of us uninformed masses, myself included, can only try and guess what springs rates, spring lengths, shock dampening rates and shock lengths should be used for our vehicles and the specific tasks we are planning to use them for.

As for justifying the extra cost involved in getting an expert in the field to set up your suspenion it is usually much cheaper and far less frustrating to get it done correctly once by someone who knows what they are doing then having to do it twice because the wrong items were purchased and fitted.


cheers,
Terry

[Redback]

Thanks for confirming my "thoughts"..........strange how its called "topping out" would make more sense to me if it was bottoming out.......:angel:

With extended shocks, any need for brake line extensions in your experience ?

I see your SLS kit relocates the bracket that mounts the brake pipe, mine does not have that, and tbh there is not enough play in the fixed line to drop the bracket anyway.

You should extend the brake lines when raising the suspension!!

Baz.

[Urban Panzer]

Topping out occurs when the shocks are fully extended which limits suspension travel and causes a thump.

Bottoming out is caused by suspension compression where the shock won't compress anymore. Thus the commonly used term bottomimg out.

Neither situation is ideal and should be addressed once experienced as in some extreme circumstances it can be dangerous. You can get both situations arise even if the shocks are the correct length if the shocks have lost their dampening qualities or the spring rates are not in balance with the shocks dampening rates.

It is very important to get springs and shocks that compliment each other, suit the weight of the vehicle and the tasks being asked of it.

If suspenion changes are going to be made that is why its worth the extra dollars to get a suspension expert to set up your vehicles suspenion whether it be car, motorcycle or 4x4. Most of us uninformed masses, myself included, can only try and guess what springs rates, spring lengths, shock dampening rates and shock lengths should be used for our vehicles and the specific tasks we are planning to use them for.

As for justifying the extra cost involved in getting an expert in the field to set up your suspenion it is usually much cheaper and far less frustrating to get it done correctly once by someone who knows what they are doing then having to do it twice because the wrong items were purchased and fitted.


cheers,
Terry

Im aware what topping / bottoming out is, its just back to front imo, when the shock "tops" out, its at the bottom of the shock travel and vice versa.........just seems a strange name for it to me thats all.

The shocks are going to be addressed, just have not yet made up my mind, and as far as choosing the correct stuff, I personally feel there is more than enough info out there on the web and from places like this. Everyone wants diff things from a lift etc, so no expert would ever cover all possibilites "imo"......and paying someone for knowledge which is readily available free is not on my agenda ;)



You should extend the brake lines when raising the suspension!!

Baz.

Well, Im going to do it anyway as new stainless lines would be better than the crusty factory ones, but from what I have read a Disco 2 is fine with standard brake lines with up to a 2" lift.....

Just wondered who had and why.....:)

[Urban Panzer]

Well today she got a set of +2" Terrafirma extended shocks, some new anti roll bar links, front spring seats and some nice +2" braided brake lines.............drives loooooooooovely now!! :D

[biggin]

Well today she got a set of +2" Terrafirma extended shocks, some new anti roll bar links, front spring seats and some nice +2" braided brake lines.............drives loooooooooovely now!! :D

Hi UP,
I realise it was a while ago, but can you remember the part number for the Terrafirma +2" rear shocks you have installed.
I'm looking at installing these myself. I like the look of the pro sports, but I understand they are not made for the D2.
In fact I may get the extended braided lines while I'm at it.:D
Cheers,
Alan