Spring relocation cone question

[86mud]

Hi all

I am planning for new suspension and am looking at going max flex in the rear. I would like to install spring relocation cones, but not sure if the 130 is the same as the 110.

I see paddocks etc advertise cones for 110's but not 130's. will they fit both?

Cheers

Andrew

[Outlaw]

Check with psimpson7 on here as he's making relocation cones... bloody nice ones too :)

I've got them on my 110... though the 130 has the helper spring in the rear so not sure how that'd work... how much weight do you carry in the back? Do you need the extra spring?

[86mud]

I have sent Psimpson an email.

No inner spring. The truck just carries camping gear.

I currently have EFS springs and shocks (rubbish) which I am replacing with Dobinson springs and Bilstein shocks.

Cheers

Andrew

[flagg]

Do relocation cones affect rego / legality at all in NSW? Do you need an engineers cert?

Cheers
Dec

[dullbird]

Do relocation cones affect rego / legality at all in NSW? Do you need an engineers cert?

Cheers
Dec

as far as I'm aware NO because while the car is on road it does nothing.

As the spring is not tied in at the top anyway I guess you could argue it is a safety feature should you spring ever get unseated

[Bush65]

Legally, dislocation of the springs is not permitted. Normally the shockies limit axle droop before the spring can dislocate.

[V8Landy]

I have sent Psimpson an email.

No inner spring. The truck just carries camping gear.

I currently have EFS springs and shocks (rubbish) which I am replacing with Dobinson springs and Bilstein shocks.

Cheers

Andrew

Ihavce heard efs is good. What don't you like about it. Cheers Brett

[SPROVER]

I have EFS on my Disco and it flexes pretty good in the rear.:)

[86mud]

When I first picked the truck from the previous owner, they told me the efs kit was fairly new.

During the sale I noticed that the car leaned to the left quite a bit and I just thought the spring had settled.

After purchase I pulled out the back springs out to find that the passenger side was 25mm shorter than the drivers side. This made the truck lean to the left.

So off I go to the place the previous owner had the suspension installed...and after a few minutes the arguement turned heated and I stormed off. They wouldn't honour their warrenty and kept saying the drivers side spring is longer to compensate the weight of the driver, fuel and batteries. I argued that I only weight 80kgs and the batteries are on the left and the fuel tank is in the middle.

To cut a long story short, I just made up a steel spacer to get me out of trouble until I could afford to upgrade....which is now.

Cheers
Andrew

[isuzutoo-eh]

I'm well known to be wrong, but shouldn't the passenger side spring be longer than the drivers side to account for the camber in the road?

[dullbird]

When I first picked the truck from the previous owner, they told me the efs kit was fairly new.

During the sale I noticed that the car leaned to the left quite a bit and I just thought the spring had settled.

After purchase I pulled out the back springs out to find that the passenger side was 25mm shorter than the drivers side. This made the truck lean to the left.

So off I go to the place the previous owner had the suspension installed...and after a few minutes the arguement turned heated and I stormed off. They wouldn't honour their warrenty and
kept saying the drivers side spring is longer to compensate the weight of the driver, fuel and batteries. I argued that I only weight 80kgs and the batteries are on the left and the fuel tank is in the middle. To cut a long story short, I just made up a steel spacer to get me out of trouble until I could afford to upgrade....which is now.

Cheers
Andrew

well I hate to break this to you but if you fit genuine landrover springs they are handed and are often taller on the drivers side...how do I know I have just fitted some....

it was also the same case for the 90 in the UK when we fitted after market springs they too were handed and the drivers side was taller

[steve_35]

Ok i might be showing my ignorance here sorry

Why would they be different it would have to be the only vehicle on the planet that has different length suspension in each corner

First problem with that is how can they compensate for something that isn't a constant

I weigh 75 kilo my old man weights around 115 kilo the next door nieghbour is a big tall fat dude and he is well over 150

second problem with that is geometry it would be almost impossible to ever have the vehicle sit flat with or without a passenger (not a good look in a show room)

[dullbird]

Found this might be of some help to people

land rover spring specifications (http://www.members.shaw.ca/jbarge/springinfo.html)

[bee utey]

Found this might be of some help to people

land rover spring specifications (http://www.members.shaw.ca/jbarge/springinfo.html)

Cool. Shows that no matter how twisted the jigs at the LR factory were, there were springs to help. It appears that the longer spring was on the front RH but on the rear LH on some Rangies and 110's. Totally amazing.