Well I'm back on BUT on a ****ty note!!!!

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

well after a ****ing shocking week or two i have the net back but not for long as other **** going on around me right now doesnt look good and to make things better
what decides to **** up again on me...YEP the ****ing rover!!!!!!

Being in a realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllll ****ty mood lately i cant take it anymore!!!!!! YES i have put up with it for a while now and YES i have stuck with it after the rebuild until i heared so weird **** going on in the engine (Ticking sound) after i did a oil, oil filter and fuel filter change yesterday. Yes i did use the right oil RX Super 15w/40 and nothing went in the engine except what had to go in. So i'm putting up this poll to either sell it or keep it and at the end of it what ever the outcome is i'm going with it. This isn't a stupid poll or anything like that I WILL END UP DOING WHAT EVER COMES OUT FIRST IN THE POLL IN THE SEVEN DAYS. Now some of you might say "Why post up a poll here"??? Well to tell you all the truth i cant decide what to do with it!!!!!! i have so much other **** going on in my ****ed up life i really cant make a decion myself. If i end up selling it, it will be as is with evetyhing on it with no reg or RWC. I only ask to vote with proper intensions and no stupid ****ing comments or smartass remarks.

**** i have done so far...

REPLACED :
Fuel return line
cylinder head
Bottom end (Block)
exhaust valve
inlet valve
valve collet
head surface & pressure tested
vrs kit
head cyl gasket
cyl head bolts
gasket spray sealant
nuts
olives
timing belt
water housing gasket
exhaust gasket - flange
cooler pipe o-ring
coolant
oil filter
turbo - second hand
x 4 piston rings
crank shaft bearing bigend bearing
x 2 altinators
x 2 water pumps
x 2 batteries
Second hand injector pump
accelarator cable
kickdown cable
and prob some other things i cant think of right now.....And that was all done/changed with in a 6month period.

I'M ****ING SICK OF ALL THE **** SICK OF ALL THE ****ING HEADACHES AND I'M REALLY LOST HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO WHAT TO DO......


SELL IT!!


OR


KEEP IT!!

[Rangier Rover]

Some times enough is enough. If this thing is troubling you so much let her go.
Get a small car with low kays for a wile and maybe try another Rover latter on if you want it.

[THE BOOGER]

Calm down take a deep breath put the matches and petrol can away think of all the good times you have had, oh cant think of any ok keep it anyway with what you have spent you will never make it back if you sell the new owner get all the benefit and you have to start again with another car :D

[ADMIRAL]

Have you tried changing the lifters ?

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

Have you tried changing the lifters ?

should they have changed them when they did the rebuild on the motor??

[MickS]

It's a Friday car...like mine...finished in a rush so they can get to the pub...just hang onto it.

I have spent on repairs, probably close to what I paid for mine. I will never get that back...as a trade or private sale...so **** it..I'm keeping it. I'm even spending more on it in terms of mods....

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

It's a Friday car...like mine...finished in a rush so they can get to the pub...just hang onto it.

I have spent on repairs, probably close to what I paid for mine. I will never get that back...as a trade or private sale...so **** it..I'm keeping it. I'm even spending more on it in terms of mods....

Soooo bloody true on the friday car theroy : Pick it up on the friday as the head mech was going overseas the next day!!!! mind you, you would think after paying over 7g's you would get a decent job done on it!! THOUGHT WRONG!!!

[Sparksdisco]

keep it.

sounds like you need some distractions to the rest of your life

so working on the truck could be a good releace:):)

[Rangier Rover]

You need an Isuzu County:p

[cucinadio]

Mate even i would sell it if i had too ....love the disco ..but at the end of the day you need to do what you need to do......i drove around in a beat up ..88 Nissan for three yrs because i needed to do what i needed to do ...no shame mate

cheers

[Rangier Rover]

Second that.^^^^ To simplify life years ago I had a crows foot brown dato blue bird for a wile:eek: Did the job... Got from point A to point B with out breaking down etc. Rust beat it in the end. Every rego was the old cardboard with some string trick and lots of filler:twisted: The block of wood in the door gave it away:eek:

[Mick_Marsh]

Simon,

7g. Is that all. I've just spent over 8g on that little crappy thing I had at Firth Park.
I still have problems but it ran well before and it will run well again.

My advice to you would be to park it somewhere. If you need a daily drive, buy a Magna or Camray. I've seen good Magnas for less than 4g.

When things improve, have another look at the disco.

regards
Mick

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

Simon,

7g. Is that all. I've just spent over 8g on that little crappy thing I had at Firth Park.
I still have problems but it ran well before and it will run well again.

My advice to you would be to park it somewhere. If you need a daily drive, buy a Magna or Camray. I've seen good Magnas for less than 4g.

When things improve, have another look at the disco.

regards
Mick


Prob is Mick that 7g I didn't have and had to borroow it from my mum & dad which my dad has ms and mums the only worker. Will be paying them back for the rest of my life and not to mension paying other ppl as well for parts and what have you. Just doesn't end for me and this truck

[klappers]

I see the problem and feel the pain.. About to go through it myself.. But... It aint the cars fault mate. Some times, it just doesnt work... Hang on to it for a little while. I know it seems easier to give up now, but it will just cost even more in the end. Just put it aside if you can, let it sit... Then come back to it.

[V8Landy]

I wont vote in the poll Simon. I think you need to make this decision with your wife. Good luck with whatever you decide;)

[timaus13]

Hello Mate I voted that you keep it.
You have placed a lot of $$$ as well as time and no Doubt TLC into this vehicle.
Persistance is and Tenacity are traits I believe you have in droves.

You have done a remarkable job too date on maintaining your Landy and I believe too sell it now would leave you with the dillema of finding and sorting out another vehicle.

Have a coffee, give the wife and kids a hug, look at the photo,s you have when you have been out in the Landy and remember the good times.

Slow down and relax as the bad times will I can assure you improve.
I say this from experience as some forum members who know me personally can attest.

I had cancer years ago and beat it:-)
I had heart bypass 6 years ago and have been back at work full time for 5 and a half years.
My wife of 22 years left me 9 months ago for a younger faster man, but I have my mates, my kids and most of all my Disco and this forum.:-)

Life is goooood but it is not fair or just.

I have learned to slow down and enjoy the little things.

Hope this helps.
PS
Take care and Discuss the decision with your Wife. :-) Preferably over a nice candle lit dinner with a glass of red or white wine to calm the nerves.All the best.
Gadgets AKA Tim:D

[goldey]

Sorry to hear Joker.

I feel your pain. Actually I recognise it, thought I must've posted up a thread myself under a ficticious alias..........

Just to give you some comfort in misery, we've had to repair / replace over 8.5g worth of stuff (incl. reco zf auto, whole new cooling system, new rear hubs, new this, new that). The car cost me 12g 3 years ago. So, we're getting pretty close to that with repairs :mad:.

We're heading for a long trip with the family in 18mths to 2 years and the decision is get rid of it now and build something else up or keep perservering with the disco.

We've had a long sit down (me and the missus), and have decided to hang onto the disco as we'll be close to having a new car soon with the amount of stuff we've had to replace :eek::eek:;);).

My suggestion, FWIW is to keep the car, if you can walk away and have a long think about the most important things in life. If the most important things include going bush or beach with friends and family, then keep it. If on the other hand the most important things don't include 4wding then "catch ya later disco" and continue to make good on your family debt.

Cheers

Goldey

[rangieman]

Keep it you need something to take your mind of your Troubles :cool: Thats from experience;)
And dont stress about that other matter we spoke about just yet , Just sort yourself and your car out first:cool:

[big guy]

I believe best cause of action, write a list.

Does not matter what we think, none of us are in your shoes at the moment.

Look from the outside in and figure out on your list of your issues where the Disco sits.
Perhaps just sit it aside for a little while.

Get your other problems sorted one by one.
If any one here can help we shall try.

Perhaps seek some help to get back on track and focus on the positives in live. I am sure there are many as by the sounds of it, you are marries and have family.
Get some strength from that.

Make a list of good things also and focus on those.

Trough process of elimination, time and the right support you will soon be back on your feet and be thinking positively and the issues you are having with your car will seem minor and hopefully soon be laughing about them.

Trust, many of us have been in tough spots and I can talk from experience.
Take a deep breath, think positively and make that list and start croosing stuff off as they are addressed.

[81stubee]

Soooo bloody true on the friday car theroy : Pick it up on the friday as the head mech was going overseas the next day!!!! mind you, you would think after paying over 7g's you would get a decent job done on it!! THOUGHT WRONG!!!

Mate,

I'm sure you know my story. For the rangie I spent 6.5k on an engine from TRS, which came with dodgylifters, then got the ZF rebuilt for 2.5K which has to go back because I wonder whether it was actually rebuilt, and then I lost my job. So been struggling for a few months and the rangie was a daily driver/workute.
But... I start a new job on tuesday. All this and I don't even have kids yet, can't imagine how hard it must be for you.

It may be hard but you need to sit down and add up what the car has cost/could cost and how much debt you have. Then discuss with the wife. You may well be better off, cutting your losses and getting rid of the car, but we can't make that decision.

Just get yourself a little corolla or a falcon/commodore on gas. Bring yourself back to zero debt and then consider a car. I have been incredibly close to doing this myself.

Stu

[Tombie]

Some good advice here mate... And I say keep it....

You're young, and sometimes it all feels like hell... We've all been there...

But at the end of the day, its all experience and these are what shapes us ;)

I had a hell of a time a few years ago, but knuckled down and kept trying to move forward....

Best of luck with your decision making.

[subasurf]

I voted for sell. Buy yourself a real land rover :D

[Basil135]

Mate, as has been mentioned, make a list & prioitise it.

Take some time out, and really consider your options.

If you keep it, it might cost you a few more $$$, but it will be a car you know inside out.

Should you decide to off-load it, you will no doubt loose money on it, but your headaches will be gone too.

Only you can decide what is the best course of action.


For what it is worth, me & the Mrs went thru a period of changing cars fairly regularly. What? It needs new tyres? Lets buy a new car instead.

It put us deeper & deeper into a hole, that eventually we had to climb out of. When we did knuckle down, we had a Magna that survived 13 1/2 years with us. These days, we buy new tyres & not a new car.

All the best with whatever you decide, and remember:

Never loose sight of the bigger picture.
Never loose sight of what you set out to achieve.

[haggisbasher]

No vote from me as it is your (and Lexi's) call. Whatever happens (Disco or not) would still be great to see you around here every now and then.... maybe catch out on some tracks.

Chris and the girls.

[Chucaro]

I guess that when the car is a lemon it will be a lemon for ever :(

I would sell it and start with a "blank canvas" again.

Look for something that it was look after with "tender love and care" and for sure you will be Ok.

I love the LR's do not give up on the brand ;)

All the best

[Cosmic Tourist]

You need to sit down and rationally have a thought experiment.
Your options are a:sell b:keep.
You need to have a little controlled fantasy to answer the if then question, as in
imagine if you sold it, what would happen then. Your frustrations may be solved, but would you miss it, would you buy another, could you buy another crappy car, could you then get a goodie, etc etc.
Do the same for the scenario where you didnt sell it.
And then compare, which of the two options is likely to give the best result. And what is, for you, the best result?
If then, two powerful words that keep the world spinning
Bear in mind, the 80 year old scenario, When I were young I had a land rover, gave me hell it did but I worked it out by...... Not like the young fellers today, wouldnt know etc etc

[Tombie]

I guess that when the car is a lemon it will be a lemon for ever :(

How? Its not voodoo... Its a mechanical entity.

If you repair, replace etc properly then eventually it will no longer be a lemon.


Plus, consider this...

Better the Devil you know.....

[MickS]

How? Its not voodoo... Its a mechanical entity.

If you repair, replace etc properly then eventually it will no longer be a lemon.


Plus, consider this...

Better the Devil you know.....

My thoughts exactly....with the troubles I have had with mine....I know what's been done and know it's been done right. Mine's a keeper, and it's only going to get better.

Hang in there mate...

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

Thanks all for your input. Thing that really ****s me the most is having to pay so much money which i didnt have in the first place and the thing is still running like ****!

Just pretty much turned down a full time job (Another **** up in my life) due to we coudnt work out a plan for myself and my wife to both work as i would not be able to make it home in time for her to go to work. I love what i do for a living and dont want to go and do anything else for work BUT theres just nothing out there especialy around the western sub's of melbourne. Now i'm not lazy and i'm not picky i love what i do as a auto assembler. Hense if i keep the rig i wont be able to afford the repair cost's every ****ing month when something goes wrong as it has been doing.

if i was going to sell it what would i ask for it??? i know i wont get back the money i have spent and just put it down as another ****ing loss to the long list of **** up's in my life so far.
i'm not giving up on the landrover name cause i wanna get either a d2 or a defender for the next car. HOW YOU SAY!!! with the situation i'm in right now, well thought of selling the d1 and getting whatever for it and using that money as a down payment for another landrover and just pay the thing off as i done before. Thats if they still do that sort of ****.

Not blaming the car but who should i blame???? i mean its got basically a new engine, i'm pretty much changed everything in the bloody engine bay (More than once) and i'm still having problems!!!!!!


SO WHO'S TO BLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jazzaD1]

are you sure it isnt something simple like the oil pump needs priming again due to bleeding down when you drained the oil?

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

are you sure it isnt something simple like the oil pump needs priming again due to bleeding down when you drained the oil?

Dont know bloke!!!!

have changed the oil many times now and at every 5K cause i want it to last long than before and it was all good. Its funny cause i can here the ticking coming from inside the engine and its ****ting me BUT the rig goes a little harder now than before!!! ****ing weird to explain it but it does??

and what oil pump you takin about dude?????

[Chucaro]

How? Its not voodoo... Its a mechanical entity.

If you repair, replace etc properly then eventually it will no longer be a lemon.


Plus, consider this...

Better the Devil you know.....

:D:D If was a Voodo we be able to fix it by pich few pins in the body :D

I remember Tombie the Holdens assembled at Pagwood,NSW during Friday afternoon, they used to be left outside on the weather and then the following week start again :(
I used to live in Maroubra and was able to see this "procedure"
Not wonder Repco used to sell floor pannels and other bits!!
If you have a holden made on that shift then rust will be for ever

[Pierre]

Simon, pm sent.

Pete

[Sleepy]

Geez mate, :(
Thought about this a bit. I think there is a time when you've got to just cut your losses.
To be honest I would have sold it long ago - but I don't think I am as patient as you.
I once owned a Lada Niva - ok shut up you lot - I loved that car and it was lots of fun to drive.......when it worked....it was a dog....I sold it and never looked back.


I voted sell.



....and buy a better one:angel:

[THE BOOGER]

have alread voted but if finances are real tight then selling and taking the loss will mean a big step backward in what you can afford to replace the truck with so you will be looking another dodgy car.
your poll seems to be balencing arouind the 50/50 mark so its back to you:D

[BAILEY]

Why don't you just burn it, and stop whinging

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

Why don't you just burn it, and stop whinging


LOL new there would be a smartass on here!!!

For starters you obviously dont know my situation at the moment and to burn my truck would just be stupid like your suggestion!!!! i wouldnt wish my worse enemy to be in my situation and to come on here and say something like that to someone you dont even know is just childish so if you dont have anything that could be helpful to me or any GOOD suggestions **** OFF!!!!!!!!

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

**MOD HAT ON**

Can we keep this civil please

hang on THIS tosser decides to come on my thred and tell me to burn my truck and i get quoted!!!!!

[BAILEY]

Your not very happy are you.

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

Your not very happy are you.


well obviously not if im posting this way!!!!

did you read my 1st thread on whats going on?? to just rock up on the thread and tell me to burn my trucks is just ****ing idiotic especialy if you dont know whats going on in my life right now!!!!!

i came on here to get some advice and suggestions off my friends and asked not to put smartass comments and just genuine posts so i can make a decision on whats going on. read all my posts and get a good catch up on whats going on then post something that i can work with instead of a smartass comment like you posted previously.

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

i dont get it i come on here to get some help and info and cockheads like this come on and get away with stupid childish comments like that and i get told off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is there anyone to police this sort of garbage comments or is that allowed on this great forum???

[VladTepes]

Prob is Mick that 7g I didn't have and had to borroow it from my mum & dad which my dad has ms and mums the only worker. Will be paying them back for the rest of my life and not to mension paying other ppl as well for parts and what have you. Just doesn't end for me and this truck

I feel your pain but it sounds like the car is almost "all new" now. Obviously you won't recover the $ youve spent if you sell it, so I'm not sure how selling it will help.

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

**MOD HAT BACK ON**

Joker.......

We know you are angry and upset at life at the moment but that does not give you the right to make personal attacks on other members of the forum.

I suggest you take a few breaths and think before you post again


Understandable BUT

how can he just come on here and post exactly " Just burn it ans stop whinging"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and get away with it. who's he to tell me to burn my truck and stop whinging!!!! After everything i did for this forum and to get idiots like that come on and tell me to shut up is just not on. But you guys dont see anything wqrong with that.

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

I feel your pain but it sounds like the car is almost "all new" now. Obviously you won't recover the $ youve spent if you sell it, so I'm not sure how selling it will help.

Thats why i'm on here matey to get GOOD suggestions like that. Mate at the moment i'm havin a little trouble making decisions on what to do, yes i have spent a few $$$$ on it but its killing me in the long run as to to being able to put anymore $$$$ on it so soon especialy after nearly changing everything. it would be great if it lasted me more than a month without changing or replacing something thats whats hard.

[Chenz]

Having and driving any vehicle involves having confidence in its reliability and safety. If everytime you get in behind the wheel you think "What is going to **** up this time" then it is time to cut your losses and look at another set of wheels.

Just think, the next Landy has got to be a better ride than the one you currently have and you have lost confidfence in.

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

Having and driving any vehicle involves having confidence in its reliability and safety. If everytime you get in behind the wheel you think "What is going to **** up this time" then it is time to cut your losses and look at another set of wheels.

Just think, the next Landy has got to be a better ride than the one you currently have and you have lost confidfence in.

jesus chenz you read me exactly!!!! thats what happens when i jump in it until i get out of it. i cant go on a good camp out or trip without checking the gaudes every second and thinking i hope i make it home tonight lol. dont know if its just sad or what but i just dont trust it at the moment.

[Chucaro]

Simon, belive this old bugger, just ignore the posts which are not positive or constructive. ;)

You going to be ok at the end mate, I know how hard is to pump money into a vehicle or machine and the problems never ending.

For that reason I voted just sell the lemon and get another disco :)

See you in the road soon ;)

[**Discovery300Tdi**]

Simon, belive this old bugger, just ignore the posts which are not positive or constructive. ;)

You going to be ok at the end mate, I know how hard is to pump money into a vehicle or machine and the problems never ending.

For that reason I voted just sell the lemon and get another disco :)

See you in the road soon ;)

thanks mate..just hate the know it all's on here. see what happens with the truck...lol not putting it for sale on here though thats for sure!!!!lol

[slug_burner]

Owning a four wheel drive can be a costly proposition on a dollar for dollar comparison with a 2 wd. Vehicle is heavier, uses more fuel, tyres are bigger cost more dollars twice as many diffs to go wrong etc. If you find that you are in strife financially you have to cut down on the wants and get back to satisfying the needs. Never borrow to buy a depreciating asset unless the tax man is giving you a break, the cost of money increases as the interest adds up in the mean time the asset is worth less for every year it gets older and every km and dint you put on it. If you are fortunate to be able to borrow from family with no interest well good luck to you, many have got a break through a family loan but you still have to pay it back.

Get a 2wd something you can afford to buy outright or pay back quickly, all cars have a cost of ownership factor above and beyond the consumables like fuel and tyres, if you can't afford the maintenance then maybe you have the wrong car.

[Debacle]

Maybe get rid of the Disco and go back to basics and get a Series 2a/3. A lot less to go wrong and a lot simpler to work on.

They are a heap of fun to drive and its all about having fun isn't it, rather than worrying about **** happening

[td express]

jesus chenz you read me exactly!!!! thats what happens when i jump in it until i get out of it. i cant go on a good camp out or trip without checking the gaudes every second and thinking i hope i make it home tonight lol. dont know if its just sad or what but i just dont trust it at the moment.

Hey Simo,

Dont think that your on your own with feeling like this mate. Im the same with mine.

If it were me, I would keep it. Its going to cost you alot more to move up, and then your still going to wait for something to go wrong with the car you buy, cos you now have a car you dont know the history on.

just my 2 cents mate

[MickS]

jesus chenz you read me exactly!!!! thats what happens when i jump in it until i get out of it. i cant go on a good camp out or trip without checking the gaudes every second and thinking i hope i make it home tonight lol. dont know if its just sad or what but i just dont trust it at the moment.

Simo mate...that is how I feel every time I get in my disco...given the disaster(s) I have had with it. I watch the dash lights...constantly look at the gauges...But, I make the point again...I have put too much money into mine to ever think I may recover it...and damned if I am going to allow someone else to benefit from my misery and money...At the moment, the truck is great...spending a few more thousand on it over the next fortnight or so with some modifications...I know I will never get that back if the time ever came to sell. But it won't. I'm keeping it...my daughter will drive it. My son will drive it. I will hang onto it until it is completely dead. Or I am...then the vultures can pick over the carcass !!!

[V8Ian]

What will the situation be if the replacement is a bigger dog than you have now? I take it you are not in a position to spend a great deal on another car, so it will also be a big gamble. Better the devil you know, for my money, but at the end of the day it's your call bud.

[matt39788]

Hey Simone, your obviously not in a good position money wise and having owned a few landrovers now I have come to one conclusion (some may argue with me here but speaking from life experience) more often than not they cost more to maintain than a Jap 4wd and a hell of alot more than a Jap 2wd.

So with your money issues I would sell it and buy a car, cut your losses because it's not going to get better. A landrover is good to own but you don't have to have one to get around day to day get your life back together and worry about nice to have things later on.

good luck

[abaddonxi]

I spent quite a lot more than $7k on my Defender in the first three years of owning it, and wanted to drive it off a cliff more than once. Since then the maintenance costs have been negligible and it's running perfectly. Averaging the costs out over the last five years, it works out at a bit more than running other cars, but not significantly.

[Cap]

Mate, again lots of good advice. I wont vote if to sell or not, BUT the only thing I can say, and this advice was given to me, is that NEVER make a decision when there a lots of emotions and conflicting problems. In other words, take an extra week, think about it some more, as suggested, make a list of the problems your facing and then start with a logical (not emotional) approach, tciking stuff off that is not needed.

If the LR is ticked, then sell it mate. Decisions you make whilst cheesed off will only compound the problems.

Hope you sort it out, best wishes for you guys.

PS: This ticking sound you say, my father (Chucaro) had this problem and JC diagnosed the problem. It was the pump, not the block or internals.

[dobbo]

At the moment there are 4 posts determining the outcome in the poll. What happens if the results are 50/50? Will you procrastinate, scissors paper rock? Flip a coin or make a decision yourself.

I can see a future thread titles, you bastards told me to keep this hunk of junk or why did I sell my beloved disco, it's all your fault.

Personally I do not want to be a party to either scenario but I will offer some advise. If you take it or not it is entirely up to you.

There is no time like today to become an adult and make your own decisions and live with the consequences of your own actions.