Y62 Patrol hill climb at Loveday SA. Love the exhaust note at the end. - YouTube
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If i came home with a ontrak 2 inch lift, 35s and modified it to a level close to that of my previous 110 the mrs would probably kill me...its a compromise vehcile between family bus and capable getaway tourer/4wd
Is that seriously offroading an amarok?Quote:
Originally Posted by rammypluge
Plenty of guys are running these patrols offroad, just not everyone makes videos of themselves!
I have driven both, and believe me, that Rok doesn't come close
So today one of my customers thought he'd try to be smart by talking down my vehicle choice because its not a diesel and being a "thirsty petrol" tried to convince me i should have brought a 200. Mind you this bloke is Toyota biased. He owns a 79 and the mrs drives prado, always bagged my 110 amd hates everything other than yota.
So today maths is my topic of choice;
Ok lets for arguments sake say i use 16 liters per 100km combined average (hasnt been my average but lets assume as per review articles as mine is around 14 combined) and the 200 uses a claimed 12 liters per 100km combined (which it does not).
The extra 4 liters costs me $5.60 per 100km more than the cruiser to get the same milage at $1.40per liter of 95. Then theres the fact that 95 ron petrol is roughly 10 cents dearer compared to diesel in sydeny on average so that adds a further $0.40cents to my 4 liters giving me a total cost of $6 extra per 100kms compared to the cruiser.
Now if i do an average 20,000kms per year and divide that by 100 i get 200 liters as the difference between both vehicles.
200 liters multiplied by an extra $6per liter per 100 kms costs me a total of $1200 more per year to travel the same distance in the Nissan as opposed to the yota.
Now lets factor buy price for a equivalent spec 200, which is difficult as the diesel gxl does not have comprable refinement and comfort.
200 gxl =$95,000k drive away
Patrol ti= $77,000 drive away with $4,000s worth of extras.
Now thats a saving of $18k up front!
Lets look at the years of ownership:
Year 1: ahead
Year 2: ahead
Year 3; ahead
Year 10; still ahead
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Year 15; finally break even.
Did i miss something here? Well yes i did, i forgot resale value. Now after 15 years who knows what both vehicles are worth but then there is the servicing costs of a petrol vs diesel and the resale value almost becomes negligible.
So people will bang on about economy without actually working out their long term costings or ecomonic investment just because it costs less to fill the tank each fill..
Lets just say he wasn't impressed with my answer and in the end just stated; "as if you would buy a petrol v8 4wd". To which i replied; "i like reliability and seeing toyotas in my rear vision mirror" [emoji48][emoji48]
As yoda would say; not impressed he was
Did you offer him the key to take it for a spin?
I wouldnt evem let him sit in it mate. Would happily offer him a tow though 🤣🤣🤣🤣[emoji6][emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern
Completed Sydney to melbourne last night. Left sydney at 3pm in terrible traffic which took over an hour to clear and arrived at Caulfield in melbourne last night at 1.05am.
Made it on 1 tank easy. Did 890kms and trip computer reported 179kms left in tank. Filled up today and can confirm fuel used was 12.75 liters per 100. Average speed was 115-120kms and i gave it plently on a few occasions, combine this with the bumper to bumper traffic which eats a lot of fuel accelerating and stopping and its a very good fuel consumption result i think.
Very happy as there are a lot of hills on this route.
If a Y62 uses petrol at 16L/100km and a 200 Series uses diesel at 12L/100km, the difference is 4L/100km, which adds up to 800L over 20,000km. Hence your figure of approximately $1200 difference over a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nando
I just wanted to summarise that for my own clarity. Its not a massive amount of money. Many diesel owners these days spend that much on a tune, which negates the first year of savings.
It would be interesting to work out at what rpm point the Y62 has more power to weight that a 200 Series TD, and for that matter my Amarok. Could be 4000rpm for my Amarok(?).
A lot of guys in previous generation toyota diesels probably wouldnt have done as well as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nando