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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post

    As I keep saying, our fleet of Petrol Hilux's are obscenely reliable.
    Yes,as i keep saying,so are our Tojo work vans,two have done around 300 000K's with not one repair,just services,batteries and tyres.

    And another two,one with DPF,are getting up in mileage,no issues at all,none.

    Never touched the brakes on any of them either.

    By far the most reliable vehicles i have ever owned,which is great for our business.REsale is also ridiculously high.
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    And they joke about the reliability of Land Rovers - even in the latest magazine of unsealed it jokingly says photos "leaked" of new Defender hahaha.

    This is my personal experience of Toyotas that I've had related to my business:-

    Toyota HiAce - great car, super reliable, Toyota dealership - terrible - they even dropped it off the hoist causing damage,
    Hilux diesel (3 of them bought new 2008) - Faulty injectors in all 3, poor ground clearance, overheated towing our 1.5 tonne boat - Toyotas solution was to reduce speed to 80km and drive in 3rd gear, numerous oil leaks, tailshaft fell off one of them - terrible cars always having faults. We traded these in on Colorados which have been great apart from alternator issue. Toyota dealership - shocking (charged for work not done, damage, warranty issues always a battle).
    Prado diesel (2007 my car) - faulty injectors which took 3 years for Toyota to replace after much arguing. Rear hand brake assembly fell to bits and jammed rear handbrake on, inner bodywork skin cracked which rattled and grinded over rough roads, Toyota bull bar broke and fell off on the gib river road, the car rattled so much you could it hear coming from a mile away. Ground clearance too low. Traded in on a second hand RRS TDV8 then later a new D4 - had a few problems (turbo) but had exceptional service from LR which made the process painless. Car far better suited to offload work than Prado. Toyota dealership - shocking
    Prado Petrol - no problems except high fuel usage - very reliable, good car but ground clearance a bit low. Traded in on a Colorado.

    So I can't understand why anyone would want a deisel Toyota hillux or Prado - they are not even good value when compared to other makes - but they seem to outsell everything else?? Got me beat?? The new hilux konks out in a bit dust - faulty MAF sensor. Handy for a 4WD .

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    DPF isnt the right answer

    DPF is a bad answer, so is EGR, which is what it is paired with. Adblue is the way to go, always has been, like all things that the euros do, Liebherr crane engines oil drain at 500 hrs, oil looks new. they run hotter, cleaner, perfect. Volvo trucks have had adblue for years. Cat dont even sell a truck engine anymore. More power, less fuel.

    All cars have their issues for sure, My LR4 has been great touch wood, Sure I have had some bad Toyota experiences, i had the first of the 4.5L V8 diesels in a work ute 3 engines. But the reality is nothing out last Hilux especially in bad conditions, we have them here on a north african mine site and they have 300'000ks, sure they are rooted, but the mechanics here cause most of the issues not the car itself. Generally a cheap fix if you buy one too, because of market share eveyone wants to support them and get a peice of the pie.

    Ive seen a heap of those DPF hilux's blowing plumes of smoke, does need to be fixed. a place i worked even had one go bang.
    as for Toyota petrol's, amazing vehicles, never ever give problems, my plumber had a hiace 2.7 with 220,000 k's and i did its second service at 220,000ks, he still has it, still says it doesnt need a service, i only did the job becuase his asked me to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bln View Post
    And they joke about the reliability of Land Rovers - even in the latest magazine of unsealed it jokingly says photos "leaked" of new Defender hahaha.

    This is my personal experience of Toyotas that I've had related to my business:-

    Toyota HiAce - great car, super reliable, Toyota dealership - terrible - they even dropped it off the hoist causing damage,
    Hilux diesel (3 of them bought new 2008) - Faulty injectors in all 3, poor ground clearance, overheated towing our 1.5 tonne boat - Toyotas solution was to reduce speed to 80km and drive in 3rd gear, numerous oil leaks, tailshaft fell off one of them - terrible cars always having faults. We traded these in on Colorados which have been great apart from alternator issue. Toyota dealership - shocking (charged for work not done, damage, warranty issues always a battle).
    Prado diesel (2007 my car) - faulty injectors which took 3 years for Toyota to replace after much arguing. Rear hand brake assembly fell to bits and jammed rear handbrake on, inner bodywork skin cracked which rattled and grinded over rough roads, Toyota bull bar broke and fell off on the gib river road, the car rattled so much you could it hear coming from a mile away. Ground clearance too low. Traded in on a second hand RRS TDV8 then later a new D4 - had a few problems (turbo) but had exceptional service from LR which made the process painless. Car far better suited to offload work than Prado. Toyota dealership - shocking
    Prado Petrol - no problems except high fuel usage - very reliable, good car but ground clearance a bit low. Traded in on a Colorado.

    So I can't understand why anyone would want a deisel Toyota hillux or Prado - they are not even good value when compared to other makes - but they seem to outsell everything else?? Got me beat?? The new hilux konks out in a bit dust - faulty MAF sensor. Handy for a 4WD .

    I'm happy with my awesome D4 and Defender
    While I drive a Hilux as a daily, I wouldn’t buy one - not because they are unreliable, but I wouldn’t pay the Toyota tax and I don’t think they are very good value, but has been a good vehicle. Never had it overheat nor heard of that issue to be honest and I tow every week with mine up to 2,000kg. Overall I rate Toyota’s very highly - My clunker is a Camry which drives great and is likely to outlive most of my other cars, Mates older 2WD petrol Hilux is properly indestructible - Over 400,000KM on it and barely a spanner ever laid on it and still goes well although not a comfy ride by any stretch. Just because I love Land Rovers doesn’t mean I can’t like other Marques too. 👍

    Agree Adblue would be a better option than DPF’s though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Never had it overheat nor heard of that issue to be honest and I tow every week with mine up to 2,000kg”. 👍
    Our hilux’s were automatic and the transmission overheated - common problem for that model. I’m not sure if that problem still exists now. The problem with the injectors is also well documented. Was yours manual and what year?
    Perhaps I just had a bad run.
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    To be fair the injectors wore out and have since been updated, can be bought cheap too, the fast quest for emissions has many issues to iron out, in all industries and brands
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    Quote Originally Posted by bln View Post
    Our hilux’s were automatic and the transmission overheated - common problem for that model. I’m not sure if that problem still exists now. The problem with the injectors is also well documented. Was yours manual and what year?
    Perhaps I just had a bad run.
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    Both I've had are Auto Diesels. 2013 model (3.0) and currently a 2016 model (2.8 current model) Both worked hard and we have around 30 of them in the Metro Melbourne fleet and not heard of any with overheating issues and only a couple that have had injectors done. We keep them for 5 to 7 years depending on the vehicle and the role it is doing, so may happen later in life?


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    Just google “hilux transmission over heating”
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    Quote Originally Posted by bln View Post
    Just google “hilux transmission over heating”
    Ah, right - all older models by the looks of it from what I could find, so that’s probably why I hadn’t heard of it before. 👍


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