The problem with the 85mm is that you have to get very close to the subject.
One of the best value for money and quality are the Sigma 150 and the 180mm macros.
The new Nikon VR macros are very nice and you can have one on the 100mm range.
I use a diopter in my Nikon 70-300VR but the DOF is very shallow about 6mm.
This native bee is only 4 mm long and to get the full body I have to take a side view.
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