Shop around we bought our rx100 for around 750 including a hard case and 64gbQuote:
Originally Posted by Didge
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Shop around we bought our rx100 for around 750 including a hard case and 64gbQuote:
Originally Posted by Didge
Thanks Stewie but have already bitten the bullet and got the latest version - whether I wasted money getting the latest version seems to be a matter of debate and time will tell. I noticed on one youtube video that the Mark 4 has a lot of extra menu options over the Mark 3 - hoping to learn how to use them all.
What I have learned already is that this camera is more like a high end computer in a small box, with a good quality lens tacked on the front. I've just downloaded the timelapse app with an angle shift app that allows you to do the whole Ken Burns effect within the timelapse film - pretty cool stuff. Thanks again to all and sundry for your help and advice :)
Those are cool features that I am sure I would use if I had them. I look forward to your images showing off the new tech..Quote:
Originally Posted by Didge
As they say around here didge...Quote:
Originally Posted by stewie110
It didnt happen without pics! :D
Cheers
Dan
They'll be coming - just did a timelapse sunset (sort of) late yesterday but it was a bit of a letdown. They're coming :)
Well, here are a couple I've done whilst playing around with the new toy. Still experimenting :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco-tastic
Little time lapse sunset :)
For a camera phone, I'll suggest you to pick an iPhone 6s plus. We have that and I think any iPhone model has a good camera. (In my own opinion only)
top ranked phones in terms of quality of images and ability are:
= 1/. HTC 10 and Samsung Galaxy 7
= 2/. Samsung Galaxy 6(edge)Plus and Sony Z5
= 3/. LG G5, Galaxy Note V and Galaxy edge 6
= 4/. iPhone 6s, Google Nexus, Moto G plus, Moto Droid Turbo 2
if it were my money, I'd go with the S7 for it's more all rounded nature.
What it loses in terms of outright detail capture ability, it gains in terms of noise quality.
We can't always shoot in great light, so all things should be considered when deciding.
ps. I'd have advised to the OP to go with the Rx100IV too.
Going to upset the apple cart with this reponse perhaps...
Personally I would look at the issue from 2 angles.
1. Do I actually want a camera?
2. Do I want to lug 2 electronic devices around with me everywhere I go?
in response to #1: If you want a camera specifically (and I think this is a very tough decision in this area of electronic consumables) then I would not personally pursue a 'compact' camera. I would not necessarily say choose a humongous (sp?) DSLR either, or even a mirrorless / rangefinder either. This is a complicated question to answer, but as an experienced waster-of-copious-sums-on-cameras, I can offer some advice.
Don't buy a compact.
It will be obselete in 6 months. It will have a useable lifespan of about 3 years, if you don't ever drop it, and you keep it out of moisture / dust.
In 12 months, that (up to 1K) you just spent on the camera will depreciate to $0.00
Don't buy a phone based on it's camera specification.
This is an absolute truth. Software has a funny way of changing peoples perceptions, and if you adopt the manu mantra: i.e. " We have an App for That"
then you will be somewhat disappointed by any phone you choose.
So, here is my harsh, self-opinionated, overinflated, ego-driven diatribe...
Buy a phone that you can use as a phone. If it does some other things that you like, that's great. Don't expect any of them to have great optical quality.
That is not to say the camera on my iPhone 6s isn't great.... it's bloody fantastic for a point-and-shoot 'quick-response' solution.
But, I don't fap about on instagram, facebook or any of that mindless drivel hashtag bullsh**.
If you do, then a phone is for you. Don't forget to #nofilter, #selfie, #imaposer, #tourist, #idiotwithphonewhothinkshesaprotog
So here is where I'll get really opinionated.
If you're an apple-hater, go read something else now.
There is a lot to be said about packaging, usability, integration, functionality, stability and above all - security. Of your personal data, your possessions, everything.
Despite the nay-sayers, Apple has managed to produce a product which does most everything we 'want' (debateable) and package it into a neat little intuitive device called iphone.
it does it securely too. That is an issue for Android owners and windows phone owners to address on their own.
I've worked in IT for a couple of decades, and security is one of the areas I specialize in, and it is always at the forefront of my daily job.
I've learned to place only a small degree of trust in any electronic device that purports to be secure. Having said that, the degree of stability and security in iOS, is undeniably far better than any of the competitive offerings in that 'space'.
I would not make any other positive assertion in regards to any of the products, other than to say it is a simple and easy to use electronic device. But it is not for everyone.
the iPhone camera is a very intelligent piece of hardware, with excellent software behind it. But it can in no way match a larger sensor, and a well-made piece of glass.
The technical argument is called 'pixel density' and DSLR fans are all over it like a rash. There comes a point where the number of pixels within a predefined space reaches a limit. That limit is when the image quality starts to decline, despite the number of pixels in that defined area increasing.
Reality says, if you are posting pictures on the internet, for on-screen viewing, then the largest possible image you want is a "4K" , whether that be the 3840x2160 variety, or the full 4096 pixel variety, then you only need a camera which can output a file in jpeg format at that size.
That's not a big ask.
The problem comes when you have a fixed focal length, and cannot fill the frame with the object of your photograph - for example, birdwatching. (always a great leveller) Then you have to crop the image, so the object in the frame is of a reasonable size.
This process creates it's own problems, and for the purposes of this discussion only should simply mean that the resulting image, whatever the crop, still needs to be that maximum of 4K, for web-based viewing.
If you are printing, that is a completely different discussion, and one would argue beyond the price boundary of 'compact' market segment digital cameras... by that I mean, you're not going to go out and buy a camera for $600 and expect that it can print an entire billboard of your sunset in Uluru (far too common picture anyway).. No, you're going to need a $50K Phase One or Leaf to get enough to print that big.
So, what is a good figure to spend on a camera for web-based pictures?
Well.... size matters, as does price.
You could do far worse than purchase a Fuji x-pro2, a Canon G1Xmk2, Nikon 1V2, Leica C or D-lux, Panasonic GX8 series, Olympus OM-D or a Pentax/ricoh GR2.
Any of those cameras represent excellent image taking ability and quality, lots of functionality and all are arguably more-or-less equal in quality, should last you at least 5 years before they are completely obselete.
And this is why my argument for the phone wins....
it's a single device, that combines multiple tasks.
It is also a single point of failure. Can be an issue if travelling remotely.
You will on average, replace your phone every 3 years, regardless.
Digital cameras have a built-in obselescence of 2 years (roughly) before a new and improved version replaces the one you just dropped a bundle on.
Digital cameras have only one purpose - to capture images, you can't navigate with them, or call other people with them.
But they are better than a phone at taking pictures. Of that there is no question.
Would I buy a compact? I did. some years ago. It's still fantastic and better in my own opinion than my iphone 6.
I bought it when I had an iphone 3, and the difference was day and night. Now that I've had 3 phones since then, the difference is not tremendous. The iphone wins, because I can use the phones other functionality to make it more versatile when handling the photos - uploading them to icloud for instant family sharing, or saving to my online flickr album, etc ad infinitum.
fwiw, I have had my leica compact for 6 years and it's hardly used now - because I have reverted almost 100% to 35mm & 120 format film...
And this is the problem I have with the march of technology. While I embrace it, I also seek to loathe it's interference with my life and how I now seem to be forced into the use of technology, where it really has no place, and that is in the creative expression of pure photography.
Because for me, photography is as much about the nuances of the process, as it is about the format and the results you get from them.
I'm firmly in the camp that says "Digital is a great medium for people who have no time, or whose workflow demands an instant output". Obviously that is not me!
If you're the person who can afford to take your time, you have patience, a desire to be constantly challenged with the variables of film photography and processing techniques, then no digital camera will ever satisfy you ever.
But they are absolutely fantastic as a modern 'instamatic' when you have wifi and internet.
There you go.... a bit of a rant, but I think it might make your choice more defined, if more difficult. Sorry about that.
I cannot justify purchasing a compact at this point, because the phone tech has more or less equalled compacts in many (not all) areas.
But if you were to say compact Micro four thirds - then I would go for any established brand I mentioned previously. maybe Olympus OM-D, or Nikon 1V2, But since I'm already in Nikon / Mamiya / Leica "prisons" I'd buy the nikon 1v2 and an F-mount adapter, a leica M adapter and shop around to see if there are any RZ adapters for micro four thirds - IF, and only if, I wanted to go there again.
I'm pretty sure an area such as this requires a number of detailed unbiased reviews before contemplating a purchase, as you can find yourself disappointed quite easily by the purchase of a digital compact camera.
Whereas the phone option just leaves you stuck for 3 years with a camera that can navigate and call your friends....
Does that make the decision any easier?