Canon EOS 1000D

The VR lenses you will find very good on the Nikon. If the Canon kit lenses aren't also image stabilised this would be a big plus.

Ergonomically I prefer Nikon over Canon, but that's a personal thing. I would strongly recommend that you have a play with both cameras if possible at a shop and see which "feels" better.

Have a look at dcw -
Canon EOS Digital SLR Cameras - Digital Camera Warehouse Australia

Prices are about $100 better for 1000D and D60.

I've bought stuff there before and they're okay. They're just around the corner from my place. I'd be happy to to pick up and post on to you.

Simon

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Originally Posted by feraldisco

Given the impressive performance of compact digitals these days, I'm curious to hear feedback from people who use digital SLRs and compacts, including those that have taken the exact same pic with both for direct comparison. I realise that the SLR is able to capture a lot more light than a compact, and the flexibility that that allows, as well as presumably a large sensor to collect more information, as well as of course lens flexibility - BUT, do they take NOTICEABLY superior photos to justify the expense and lesser user-friendliness?

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I did this experiment and found a few things.

Firstly, for a snap on a bright day there is little in it. Most cameras are designed to take a good picture of a person in the sun. As the light fades, or the scene becomes complex in some way the DSLR wins out. The better metering and the ability to shoot in RAW means that you are much more likely to get a good pic. If you stick with a compact you will find more shots look washed out, not quite exposed correctly, etc. as you reach the edge of their capabilities.

Having said that, there are some very good compacts out there today which are extending their boundaries.

There are three things which make a good picture.

1: Lighting
2: The eye looking through the view finder

and a very distant 3rd is the technology.

To put this into perspective, my brother in law and I both have the same camera & lens and we were on holiday together. In some cases he took a better picture than me of the exact same scene. It was quite annoying...

On the same trip were some people with compact cameras and as the light fell or the longer zooms came out their photos were not so good. Reasons for this included shutter reaction time, better exposures, better lenses allowing higher shutter speeds, the people (those who were keen photographers had DSLRs...), etc.

Cheers, Steve

All I will say is at least pick up a Nikon before buying the Canon.

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Just had a squizz at the catalogue. The EOS 40D is out as it is $2100 and dont quite want to spend that much yet.
The EOS 1000D is just about identical specs to the Nikon D60 and apparently similar to the 400D.
The EOS 1000D comes with EF-S 18-55mm and EF 75-300mm lenses. $1149. Canons new entry level SLR digital.
Nikon D60 comes with 18-55mm VR and 55-200mm VR lenses. $1099.
Also in the mix is the Pentax 200D at around $1000.

Decisions, decisions.
I still want something the wife can use easily too.

Thanks for the replies. Will probablly commit to one Monday (order).

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until 7/9, Teds have the Pentax 200D with 18-55 for $699...

If you get the 1000D at least try to swap the kit lens for the 18-55 IS version, all the reviews i have read say it is about the best available in that focal /price range .

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Originally Posted by feraldisco

I'm currently considering one of the new Pentax 200Ds (not bad value at $699 inc lens) partly because I've got a few Pentax lenses. Given the impressive performance of compact digitals these days, I'm curious to hear feedback from people who use digital SLRs and compacts, including those that have taken the exact same pic with both for direct comparison. I realise that the SLR is able to capture a lot more light than a compact, and the flexibility that that allows, as well as presumably a large sensor to collect more information, as well as of course lens flexibility - BUT, do they take NOTICEABLY superior photos to justify the expense and lesser user-friendliness?

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I've just bought a 200D for exactly the same reasons. Have had a Z10 for years and have also accumulated a couple of lenses etc so thought I'd buy a DSLR that is compatible.

The lenses that I had for the Z10 were all Sigma, but the 200D comes with a Pentax lens as standard. So far (early days yet), I'm very happy with it. The Pentax lens is definitely better at wide angle shots than the similar Sigma.