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    Could roast a lamb under my bonnet :(

    Hi guys,

    after about 5 mins of running (from cold start after sitting in sun), whether on road or in driveway, you could literally roast a lamb under my bonnet.
    Water levels are fine (though i do lose perhaps half a litre-ish every 100 k's or so)...Yet i can't see or hear any leaks from hoses or the likes anywhere in the system. And there is most definately enough coolant in the mix.

    Pulled the thermostat today, and it does appear to function at temperature. Though given the incredibly rusted state it's in i can't guarantee it was functioning while it was in the engine. Will be replacing that asap cos i kinda broke it getting it out lol.

    The brakes aren't sticking or anything like that. And the fan belt needs replacing but it's not slipping...yet.

    While driving around the block today it got really hot, then suddenly it dropped down to normal, so i went around again to see what happened and sure enough my barby was ready for that lamb again. Which made me suspect the thermostat in the first place.

    If anyone has any idea what else could cause this to happen, please let me know as i can only eat so much lamb...

    Cheers.

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    though i do lose perhaps half a litre-ish every 100 k's or so)...
    You have a real problem . Probably your prostate. Or maybe too much beer.

    However if your CAR is losing that much you have a crook head gasket or slipped sleeve or a secret leak like in the heater.

    Look to a human 50C is "OUCH" hot so 88C is VEEERY Hot, so you cannot really take how hot it seems as a guide. Roast lamb needs about 150C so if the car was that hot it would now be one molten lump in the engine bay.
    BTW, you have a RUSTY thermostat? This is hard to do as it is brass and the engine is alloy. Get a new one . They are around 15bucks which is only a fraction of what you will be spending.
    Regards Philip A

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    yes rusty is right. Very damn rusty. I suspect the knob that owned her before me was running it with straight water in the system, plus i think he lived near the sea somewhere.....
    Getting a new one anyway coz yeah, it's just stupid to put that one back in.

    How easy is it to change a head gasket??

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    Depends on what experience you have.

    IMHO it is relatively easy but a lot of steps involved makes it take a long time, maybe 12 hours. Have a look at posts by Khos ( Disco owner) as he DIYd it for the first time .
    BUT of course you should do a compression test to see if it is needed, as the car will only use water if the gasket has failed on an end cylinder. If the end cylinders come up OK, then it may be a slipped sleeve.

    If it has had plain water in it , your radiator will most likely be cactus, and there may be lots of corrosion in the engine, particularly the water pump.

    One of the most important things with an alloy engine is good quality coolant at 50% changed regularly.
    Regards Philip A

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    Well i recently had my cooling system slightly altered.
    That being a different expansion tank which required the y-type bottom hose.
    This for some reason caused an explosion from the bypass hoses.
    It also took out the timing cover gasket.
    Had that all sorted by andrew at LRA, and he checked out the radiator and it seemed fine.
    Not long before that i had the system flushed with high pressure until the water ran crystal.
    However there was some slight build up in the water elbow i noticed, but i would imagine that was coming off the thermostat.
    I suppose there is a possibility of the core being blocked but when i drained it yesterday the speed of which the puddle formed under the car told me that there's no blockage worth worrying about.

    As for the head gasket, wouldn't that be linked with loss of power and possible back fireing?
    If so, i haven't noticed any power loss, nor any (noticed) back fireing. But having only driven 2 discoveries and my rangie, i don't really have alot of comparison to go by given the 3.9's have a couple of extra testicles.

    What would the symptoms of a slipped sleeve be?
    More to the point, what's a sleeve? lol <------ Ignore that.
    Might've noticed my knowledge of engines is limited.
    Cheers, buck.
    Last edited by Buckaluckaducka; 6th October 2010 at 01:02 PM. Reason: went and used me head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaluckaducka View Post
    Had that all sorted by andrew at LRA, and he checked out the radiator and it seemed fine.
    on top of the L/H rocker cover (drivers side) are the metal coolant tubes ... (1 has the metal fill bung on it) .... They have rubber hoses going to the cabin heater

    Disconnect the heater hoses ... and install a new rubber hose to loop those 2 metal coolant tubes back together again

    DONT BLOCK THEM OFF .... you must loop them


    Park the nose of the car up on ramps .... Now refill the coolant system ... Keep it nose up till warmed + an hour




    See how that goes .....


    After that ..... Take out the thermostat and try driving like that for a while ....





    But as Phillip has said .... The cooling system has been trashed, going by your 1st description .... I'ld rod the radiator regardless



    BTW Phillip ... Good to hear that you enjoyed your O/S trip

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    I'll try that.
    And when i can afford it, i'll be replacing the radiator along with other things. But for the moment, i just need a running vehicle. And preferably one that stays at temperature of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaluckaducka View Post
    I'll try that.
    And when i can afford it, i'll be replacing the radiator along with other things. But for the moment, i just need a running vehicle. And preferably one that stays at temperature of course.
    Personally, I would just bite the bullet and get the main radiator rodded properly ... about $150




    I'm getting you to bypass the cabin heater so that the coolant flow is not restricted ... .. And a blocked cabin heater also holds air pockets ...


    Also a blocked radiator can harbour air pockets

    All these blockages, added up, will give the same affect as blown head gasket
    and sooner (rather than later) ... if you keep running it hot .... it will pop a gasket $$$$$$$$$$




    Cheers
    Mike

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    I'd absolutely love to fork out for a new this and a new that, but unfortunately i can't even afford that at the moment.
    As for running it hot, i'm not running it for anything other than testing which is basically not at all so i'm not worried about that really.
    I'll be putting a new thermostat in next week sometime and if that don't fix it i'll do the bypass.
    After that i guess i'll have to pull a few bucks from my arse somehow aye.
    thanks for the advice anyhow. I'll let you know how it all goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaluckaducka View Post
    After that i guess i'll have to pull a few bucks from my arse somehow aye.
    .... Trust me .... Some days, Both of my RRC's expect it from me also ..


    Best of luck for sorting it out ... Let us know how it goes

    Cheers
    Mike

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