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30th May 2011, 04:37 PM
#1
93 classic central locking issue
Can anyone tell me what's up with the central locking on my 93 Voge se?
I came out of the shops today and pressed the button on the fob, the doors unlocked and 2seconds later relocked themselves....I unlocked the drivers door with the key and drove home, then at home testing it, it locks and stays locked using the fob but trying to unlock it with the fob it continues the cycle of unlock-relock 2secondish later.
Confusing. Batteries in the fob are only 6months old.
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30th May 2011, 05:51 PM
#2
Richard, check that the drivers or passenger door lock button isn't sticking up slightly, because they need to be fully DOWN when locking the vehicle or the microswitch won't trigger, and the ECU thinks the vehicle has a door open etc. This is a form of 'mislock' feature with the early systems. D2 and Defender etc just beep the horn when 'mislocked'.
Mine did all this until I replaced the lazy passenger side front door actuator.
JC
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30th May 2011, 06:32 PM
#3
Hey where is the ecu for the central locking? That's one thing way down on the list of things to fix. I get nothing on mine, lights up on the fob but nothing happens.
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30th May 2011, 06:41 PM
#4
I take the easy way out with my '95 Classic... use the key ONLY... Fobs are safely tucked up far away where they'll sit till I sell it. - Had too many false alarms from stowaway spiders and mooching mozzies.
Besides, if the fob dies when its locked up..... the key will not unlock/disarm, as far as I know.
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30th May 2011, 08:17 PM
#5
I have the same problem with mine due to a broken Door lock surround preventing the button from fully dropping into its correct position to engage the actuator thingymjig whatever its called that sends the message to the other doors to lock/unlock.
Mine also automatically locks/unlocks and I have found a 'sweet spot' on the dash to the right of the steering cowl and when I thump this with the palm of my hand the door locks magically do the reverse ! I think this one might be Lucas at work again......
The new door lock surround is waiting to be fitted.
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30th May 2011, 09:11 PM
#6
Even when I use a key, or the doorlock on the drivers side, the other locks do nothing, so I've got nothing working except locking the doors manually. Doesn't really bother me though but I'm a little curious as to what it could be
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31st May 2011, 09:08 AM
#7
So I found this morning that the passenger side front door lock isn't locking all the way, causing the "error code" to happen. Will have to investigate futher....
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31st May 2011, 09:10 AM
#8
While there sounds to something wrong with your master lock, try just spraying lots of WD40 down all the lock buttons. The actuators get filled with dust over time, and the buttons themselves get sticky.
Regards Philip A
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4th June 2011, 12:56 PM
#9
Both front door lock actuators are masters - simply piggy backed on the lock mechanism. Locking using the remote, or the key, causes the actuator(s) to pull the sill buttons down and in doing so isolates the door handles from the lock.
The two most common faults are dirt and crap in the sill button and lock mechanism; and a broken tension spring in the lock. Both issues cause the sill button to not move over it's range.
To clean the lock the only effective way is to remove the door card and even then it'll be a bit hit and miss with the WD40. Sill button and the other bits are a lot easier to access and I suggest white lithium grease.
The broken tension spring is very common and affects all the door locks. Symptons are that the sill button drops a couple of mm so you the door remains locked even though it looks unlocked. When you lock/unlock the door with the key or remote the one of the master actuators (L&R Front Doors) get confused and the system can cycle.
Richard - from your last comment I reckon you start with the passenger side door lock 
There's a lot on the forum regarding that %&^% spring! http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-t...placement.html is a good thread which deals with a D1 rear door - fronts are way fiddlier - it took me a day to do mine...
The spring is tiny - smaller than a 'bout 8mm diameter and handed. You can find them on UK ebay reguarly for a few dollars, and a lot cheaper than new door locks.
Milld - The lock ecu is located behind the lower dash panel on the right of the steering column. Pre '93 a simple central locking ecu - '93 on replaced by alarm ecu which also controls central locking.
Chris
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4th June 2011, 03:02 PM
#10
Sounds like the nylon gear inside one of the actuators is stripped. These are not solenoids as commonly thought, rather they are motor driven geared mechanisms. The master actuators have 2 mocroswitches that are tripped by the sliding rod, this rod having a rack gear driven by several stages of reduction gears off a small 12v motor. The drive gear on the little 12v motor is brass, the driven gears are all plastic. The first driven gear in the chain often gets teeth stripped or partially stripped. The actuator then does not pull the mechanism through the whole length of throw, thus does not trigger the microswitches correctly. Another problem in the master actuators is the tiny plastic lugs that hold the microswitches in place break off, so the microswitch moves instead of being correctly triggered.
If you remove the actuators, split them in half and you can inspect the above. If the microswitch mounting pins are broken, you now have a spare rear door actuator. If the gear is stripped, you have a spare motor for when one of those burns out.
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