Classic Rangie: Is it the ideal poor man's car?

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Originally Posted by Reads90

$5000+

Where did you get the figure from ?

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How much will cost you a Tdi300 Disco and how much will be to get the engine in good order?
If you can do it cheaper, I will send you my RR when I get one :eek:
In my last Tdi300, 4 injectors cost me $440 and a pump $ 1800.

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

How much will cost you a Tdi300 Disco and how much will be to get the engine in good order?
If you can do it cheaper, I will send you my RR when I get one :eek:
In my last Tdi300, 4 injectors cost me $440 and a pump $ 1800.

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Well as we all know a RRC and Disco 1 one worth a lot more in bits than together. You can buy a whole car for the price some want for the engine.

I would be more inclined to put in a 200 Tdi engine. A lot better engine for what I want than the 300 Tdi.

And disco with tdi's do come up very cheap on eBay and around the place. And there are some really tatty models about which do not sell easily . Also buying a full car you can test drive it and make sure it works .

There are also some people that live in space and ask stupid money for trucks.

I also want a manual which makes them worth even less.

The swap over is pretty easy once you have a car to nick all the bits you need from it.
Just need the rad and intercooler, new engine mounts and geabox mounts welded and a bit of the bulkhead trimmed to fit the top of the 200tdi engine in . May need to change the steering box for the late type but this can be a suck it and see , as it can foul the 200tdi.


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I heard that it is getting a bit hard to get Tdi200 parts, specially the head.
I used to have a 1998 Tdi300 manual and I like the gearbox on them :)

The Classic Rangie (or even worse a later one) is only a poor man's car in the sense you start out with some cash and then become poorer...

An ideal "poor mans car" is an old Camry. Boring as a fridge but usualy reliable.

Having said that - yeah I'd have the Rangie too... :lol2:

Which is the better engine, 200 or 300 ??? Or is there no clear winner ... Are they both capable of pushing a Classic along at a respectable rate ?

Raced a VM powered Classic at the lights recently... stayed in front till I turned off. But then again, my Volvo is 4 times the engine size... :p

James, IMO the 200 Tdi is a better engine, BUT is getting harder to get bits like heads, alloy timing covers that corrode out etc for.

I'd settle for a 300Tdi.

JC

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Originally Posted by bee utey

You buy a RRC that someone has converted to gas, has had everything important replaced and that he gives up on it because he's just bought a newer luxotank. He sells the RRC for what the market value is, IE not very much. You get a teriffic value car which is quite cheap to own so long as you treat it kindly.

Modifications are for mugs or rich people, you buy the car with the mods on at a fraction of their cost!:)

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Exactly what I did about 12 years ago. LPG and Chev in a 74 2 door, LT 95.

Paid 8 or 10k which was the going rate at the time.

After a few years it needed a new body, fuel tank, upper tailgate and radiator so I bought another one with all these parts good for 2k (too much) and more other parts including a Ritters C9 auto conversion. Sold off excess parts for over $1k.

What I have now is a classic 2 door (with a strong auto that can be rebuilt for less than 1k) behind a 350 that has done about 500k kms on gas, and is still strong, that gets 4kms / l on gas (same or cheaper than a diesel depending on fuel prices) and costs next to nothing in parts. (starter motor $100, water pump $100, etc)

I'm just today replacing the radiator ($408 new), the only 'big' expense I've had in 80k kms.

And I get approached all the time asking if I'd like to sell it......................

I would look for a 4 door already modded like mine if I had a family.

go for it Arthur.

I would have looked for one like yours if I'd known then what I've learned since . . . oh, well!

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

Exactly what I did about 12 years ago. LPG and Chev in a 74 2 door, LT 95.

Paid 8 or 10k which was the going rate at the time.

After a few years it needed a new body, fuel tank, upper tailgate and radiator so I bought another one with all these parts good for 2k (too much) and more other parts including a Ritters C9 auto conversion. Sold off excess parts for over $1k.

What I have now is a classic 2 door (with a strong auto that can be rebuilt for less than 1k) behind a 350 that has done about 500k kms on gas, and is still strong, that gets 4kms / l on gas (same or cheaper than a diesel depending on fuel prices) and costs next to nothing in parts. (starter motor $100, water pump $100, etc)

I'm just today replacing the radiator ($408 new), the only 'big' expense I've had in 80k kms.

And I get approached all the time asking if I'd like to sell it......................

I would look for a 4 door already modded like mine if I had a family.

go for it Arthur.

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That is what I am looking, something cheap, with class and nice road manners :)
As soon as I take the 406 from the mechanic it will be in the market and once it is sold I will look for a RR manual dual fuel.

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Originally Posted by superquag

Which is the better engine, 200 or 300 ??? Or is there no clear winner ... Are they both capable of pushing a Classic along at a respectable rate ?

Raced a VM powered Classic at the lights recently... stayed in front till I turned off. But then again, my Volvo is 4 times the engine size... :p

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Depends what you want from them

For off reading where you want the trash the nuts of the engine and put it under water and in mud then the 200tdi. More of a bullet proof engine than the 300tdi.

But for normal road driving the 300tdi is more refined with a bit more power with a lighter clutch in the manual form. And it is quiter than the 200tdi

I had a two door with a 200tdi with a disco manual gearbox. This made it go nicely would do 160 kph at a push. But would go all day long at 100kph on a nats **** of fuel.

As for the VM that was a bit of a nightmare in the RRC world. Did not know you got them in Aus . Was an Italian marine engine , and pretty much only usefull as an anchor. A few people had no problems and I mean a few. But a lot had major problems with head gaskets. Manly due to the fact it was supposed to be cooled by sea water and loads of it , and this was a problem in a car. You think the freelander 1.8 had a problem with head gaskets, it had nothing on these.