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    Smile what to look out for buying an RRC

    Hey,

    I'm looking to get myself a Range Rover Classic.
    I have a low budget so probably not going to get anything that is immaculate, but are there any problems I should be looking out for?
    Rust, drive train issues any engines to avoid etc.

    I've had a 1977 series 3 for a few years and have just sold it.

    Thanks.

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    One word-RUST

    Look everywhere, very hard to find a classic without it but the less rust the better.You didn't state weather you wanted auto or manual, pre 86 I would go manual only as the auto versions both the BW 35/C4 Ford and the torque flite are awful to drive with the stock 3.5 (autos in the earlier Rangies were cobbled together and not though out all that well). 86 onwards with EFI autos are the choice (the ZF auto is miles ahead as far as driveability goes IMO).

    Other things to keep and eye out on are bushes which will most likely need replacing, the a-frame load leveller will not work and useful as a paperweight :mad. Oil leaks are like all things Rover normal, steering box is the main culprit along with the engine, gearbox and transfer case. The LT77 gearboxes 5 speed could have spline wear in the transfer box and cause it to clunk a bit, the ZF autos don't get this issue as much and if it's worn although it's a bugger of a job to pull the transfer out can be replaced easily enough.

    General interior can be varied, being 30 years or older for the most part the seats will have worn badly and some parts (well most) will be broken due to the fact that LR plastic is crap and brittle even after a few years

    Well that's as much as I can think of at this point, sure others will chime in on things that I missed. Great vehicle but will need constant TLC, be patient and look for a original or one that hasn't been butchered or played with by previous owners as many of them out there are basket cases.

    Pick of the models are the 90-91 3.9 EFI with no abs or leather (less crap to go wrong) I've got a 91 Vogue without ABS and leather but I paid more than I liked but it was worth it as it's a good original un-played with one without LPG (I hate gas on Rovers ). There out there just have to b patient.

    Best of luck with it

    Trav

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    There's a lovely looking Sherwood on Carsales right now. Price is up $14500 but given details looks fair. Better off buying something a bit more expensive but all good, rather than something cheaper, that you will quickly end up spending the difference in repairs.
    1992 Land Rover Range Rover Sherwood Auto 4WD

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    Nice classic but not worth $14k IMO. Overpriced but it's worth what people are willing to pay for it

    Trav

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    Yeah maybe but pretty easy to spend$$$ on something that may need fixing. My bet is you brought something say half that price, it doesn't take much and all of a sudden you are at that figure My unit cost $500 but ultimately I don't want to add up numbers

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    That Sherwood is a great car, but really its not a dailey driver any more, its that rare it needs a garage and "only drives on sunday" now,,
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    Gone.

    Fess up. Who bought it?

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    Thanks Trav,

    Ill be able to check them out with more confidence now. I don't mind something that has to be worked on it won't be my daily driver.
    Not looking for something that is perfect but can be driven and has registration.

    Forgot to mention auto or manual, auto was my option as there seems to be more of them around.

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    what to look out for buying an RRC

    The cooling system. The coolant tank should be correctly full of lovely coloured coolant and none should be ejected after a quick run around the block. Even a nicely running engine can be a write off if it hasn't been looked after all its life.

    Engine wise the 3.5 is more reliable but the 3.9 has the better fuel injection system. If you happen to trip over one that's been converted with the 300TDi diesel engine, even better. There is no such thing as a "best" Rangie model, just the one you fell in love with.

    Other than that there's a whole lot of things that bang and clunk when you go around corners or power on and off, some are trivial to fix and some are expensive and/or time consuming. If you're mechanically minded they aren't that hard to get to know, good tools and some forum help can get you going most times.

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    RUST is #1.

    Firewall, windscreen lower front floorpans under the deadening mat, rear floor, tailgate, window frame, roof, sunroof, basically the whole car, and that's before looking at the chassis.

    If it's had a hard life and hasn't been kept clean, under any dried mud, you are bound to find rust.

    Basically everyone's said it before regarding mechanicals. I'd add logbooks. You want to see if the vehicle youre buying has a service history of any kind and you may find that receipts for the 'bigger' stuff are there, so you can see if something has been replaced. like an engine, or radiator, or axle assembly etc.

    resprays can hide rust. be careful of somethign that looks too clean.

    Originality means a lot more, unless you are specifically looking to modify your vehicle.
    If that is the case, then you want to see things like lockers, maxidrive / hi-tuff axles drive flanges etc, and a properly sorted setup and as many accessories as you can get.

    Or, you can opt for originality and forgo the mod stuff, and do that at your leisure.

    Sometimes, the original car is a better proposition, simply because it has better maintenance records and the cosmetics are top shelf, as opposed to somethign that's been worked hard for decades on trails.

    ultimately, it's up to you, so the only advice I can really offer is this.

    Do your due diligence. Check the REVS records, get an independent specialist to check it over (2nd pair of eyes) BEFORE you buy it - i.e. a pre purchase inspection and use a reputable landrover specialist.
    check the logbooks and call the mechanics in the book and ask them if they remember the vehicle. They can usually tell you if a previous owner was a tightarse who wouldn't pay a cent towards maintaining the car properly.

    Ultimately the buck rests with you, so as long as you do your due diligence, you will be satisfied with the outcome.

    don't buy the first one you see. look at a few others, and if the first one was indeed the best example, then go back to it and make an 'informed' offer.

    Oh, and the 'right' price for the vehicle, is the price that neither the seller or the buyer are really satisfied with.

    PS: I'm not going to shoot myself in the foot, but if you're paying any more than say 7.5K for a mint RRC late model (not lse) then you're being foolish with your money.

    I've been fortunate over the years to find bargains, and my RRC was indded that.
    However, you will spend the same amount as the purchase price of the vehicle within the first 12 months if you make a 'poor' buy decision.

    Or let's look at it another way. If you bought one for say 5K, the likelihood of spending an additional 5K on it within the first 12 months of ownership is highly likely.
    If you bought one for say 8K, you're probably going to spend at least 2K, maybe 3 or 4, depending on 'how' you play with money and cars.

    I'm good with cars and seemingly hopeless with money, and no matter how hard I try, the 50% of purchase theory seems to be the minimum spend over the following 12 months, just to get the car to my 'useable standards'.

    cheers,
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