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    Angry DUST, EXHAUST FUMES AND POPPING OPEN.

    Hi Blokes,
    Have any of you experienced the problem with the rear tailgate glass door popping open all the time on your RRC?
    I know what your saying ha, ha, very funny.
    They all do it don't they?
    I believe there is a very high percentage out there that do and mine is no different.
    So what I would like to know, is there anyone out there that has fixed the problem of
    1/ the window popping open?
    2/ And even when closed properly, how to stop the exhaust fumes and dust being sucked back into the cab area?
    I know about turning on the outside air and pressurizing the cab with the fan but there must be another way around the problem.
    If you have any success with curing this problem can you please share your secret with me and many others that are suffering from the same dilemma?

    Regards:-
    Patrick M

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    To get one of those to stay shut, the two lock rods must be carefully adjusted so that the catches both engage within the travel allowed by the lock button. Takes patience. Dust is not easy to keep out if your rubber seals are damaged. Exhaust fumes can be reduced by making your exhaust outlet sit precisely at the edge of the body, pointing a little to the side, where passing air removes the fumes.

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    The design of the catches means that over time they fail to lock.

    Inside the catches are two flat plates that rely on the edges being at 90 degrees for them to catch.

    Over time the corners of the edges wear from 90degrees to rounded and they slip apart under stress from bumps..

    A pair of new catches will last for 20 years before doing it again.

    I have replaced the catches on 2RRCs and never had a problem again.

    It is possible to pull the catches apart and weld and grind a new edge onto the flat plates but hardly worth the effort. I pulled a catch apart to see but I didn't have a welder at the time and I probably would have stuffed it up anyway.

    They also have to be adjusted via the threaded adjuster on the rod that goes to the centre button so that they do not actuate until the button is almost fully down.
    New catches will fix the problem .

    Regards Philip A

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    THANKS BLOKES,

    Thanks to your replies Blokes,
    I perhaps should have mentioned that I have replaced the window frame with a new alli unit, the seals all have been replaced and the catches have also been replaced, so I guess I'll just have to try and keep rooting around with the adjustment of the catches and positioning of the catch pins.
    And I will get onto modifying the exhaust tail pipe as was suggested.

    Thanks again:-
    Patrick M.

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    With the tailgate open and all the rod covers removed, observe the lock rods. Manually lock each catch with a Plilips head screw driver. The rods should move outwards approximately 3mm and neither rod should prevent the other one from engaging. Press the release button and make sure that the latches just comfortably undo. Most people adjust the catches so they open easily (small lock button travel) but this prevents them from securely locking. By all means check the strikers for position, safely within the catch area without binding. Also make sure the strikers are fitted with spacers between them and the body. Small washers may help fine height adjustment. Do all of this with the lower tailgate open, just in case anything gets stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Do all of this with the lower tailgate open, just in case anything gets stuck.
    Added benefit: gives you somewhere to sit whilst all the fiddly stuff gets done.
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    Also if you have new seals, when you close the upper tailgate push down on each corner adjacent to the locks rather than one handed in the middle.

    I would also loosen off the striker plates until the tailgate locks easily then do small adjustments until you are happy that all of the seal is being compressed. I used to use a slip of paper in various locations.

    Regards Philip A

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    I did mine last year with a new upper glass and frame, locks and strikers and where I had the proplem is the new seal.

    I found the new seal is much harder than the original and with the strikers all the way out my tailgate would still pop open and it was a bitch to shut.

    I had to space out the top hinges to fix it. It's still a PITA to shut and not Range Rover like at all.

    I've been looking around for a genuine seal but no luck yet.
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    I did mine last year with a new upper glass and frame, locks and strikers and where I had the proplem is the new seal.
    Yes I agree.
    It was many years ago , about 15 or so but I found the same .
    The upper tailgate on my 77 needed a hell of a slam after fitting the new seal as it was much stiffer than the old one.
    AFAIR it was also a bitch to fit into the steel channel especially at the top.
    Regards Philip A

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    SUCCESS

    Well Blokes I got stuck into the old girl ("VILET" Caspian Blue 1986 RRC) today, did the exhaust and went right over the upper tailgate installation again, I took some pretty accurate measurements in respect to where the locks would be when the window is closed and adjusted the holding pins into those positions, that seemed to do the job as far as closing the window was concerned. One thing that I did find though was a problem with the seal across the top of the window and the stupid piece of metal that is attached to the top frame, the edge of same was catching on the seal and actually pulling it out of it's support channel. Once I replaced the seal back into it's channel I then modified the metal angle strip so the edge did not catch on the seal as much this I did by dressing it down a few millimeters, but I still found that it was pulling too much on the seal so I used a smear of rubber grease along the seal and metal strip this made all the difference making the window so much easier to close and catch on the latches.
    Next step was to take it for a test drive along the pretty much cut up sandy beach near where I live driving over this and twisting up the chassis and body to the extreme to try to get the window to pop but no matter what I did it would open.
    Oh and no more exhaust fumes in the cab as well (no more headaches and passing out, thank God).
    The only thing I have to check now is for dust, I'll get around to that directly, I remain very confident though.

    Thanks for the advise Blokes.

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