Bonnet scoop on RRC

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Originally Posted by Davo

It's been mentioned in a thread or two, particularly one thread from last year, but nobody seems to get it. It's not a matter of reporting offending remarks, it's when a moderator doesn't even understand a problem in the first place and blunders their way to an answer which suits them but doesn't actually address anything. I doubt that's something that's going to improve unless we have some moderators to moderate the moderators. [bighmmm]

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a single moderator rarely if ever does anything off their own bat UNLESS it is considered extremely urgent and even then they must report the post(s) in question so a copy of the original exists for the records.

when a post is reported it is acted on after getting a consensus.

some get reinstated, some burned and some altered depending on the consensus gained.

moderators that don't follow the guidelines don't usually last long.

dammed sure no one is ever going to please 20k+ people all the time, but we do try our best to get it right, whether those affected think so or not.

Oh, I understand what you're saying Dave, no argument there, and it doesn't work too badly. And you may remember I've mentioned this sort of thing once or twice in the past. What's frustrating is when, as in this instance, a member like blackrangie tries to twist a discussion into something personal instead of just sticking to the original point, and then instead of being told to behave a moderator bumbles in with this:

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Ok, enough is enough with the back and forth here please - we get that there's differing views here, please keep it civil guys.

Personally I think a forward facing vent at speed would help push the hot air out from under the bonnet down below the engine. Yes, testing would be good, but I think anything would help to be honest.

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essentially agreeing with him, which just makes me bang my head on the keyboard. I've just spent more time than it appears to be worth trying to explain why it wouldn't work, and . . . why did I bother, exactly?

And how many times does this happen when there is a discussion that goes out of control because of one or two members? And what happens? The good people give up and leave, the loudmouths stay on, and too often when I've told people about this forum it turns out that its reputation has preceded it, which is enough to put them off. Over the last decade I've had this happen quite a few times.

As for me, why should I stay? I have almost three decades of Land-Rover DIY and enough knowledge to help a few people, but there's always that one guy with the big mouth who can't stick to the point. Why should I bother participating when these guys aren't told to shut up and manage to ruin quite a few good threads?

Stick around Davo, I've learned a lot from your posts.
As someone who has run foul of the mods a few times myself, and didn't always agree with them, I still say they are trying hard to do a good job and should be given credit for their voluntary efforts. Just chill. It's all good in the long run.

On the original topic, looking back at the green Disco below, it's front looks almost identical to what ours did, with two big Light force spotties blocking the grille.
I didn't realize how much airflow was blocked until I had to remove them when our electric fans failed up the Cape. Without the lights, we were able to get enough airflow to drive back to Brisbane while running the air con and not overheat.
So I reckon if the green Disco had the big lights removed it may not need a bonnet scoop. My theory.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...18/01/1058.jpg

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Originally Posted by Davo

Oh, I understand what you're saying Dave, no argument there, and it doesn't work too badly. And you may remember I've mentioned this sort of thing once or twice in the past. What's frustrating is when, as in this instance, a member like blackrangie tries to twist a discussion into something personal instead of just sticking to the original point, and then instead of being told to behave a moderator bumbles in with this:



essentially agreeing with him, which just makes me bang my head on the keyboard. I've just spent more time than it appears to be worth trying to explain why it wouldn't work, and . . . why did I bother, exactly?

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frustrates the crap out of me as well, but that is the nature of publlic discussions.

from the days of LTAUE on fidonet to modern day forums and realtime social media, only the speed at which it occurrs has changed IMHO

to be frank, that is the post you should have reported if you felt it crossed a line.

one of the guidelines in the mods pen is that you should not directly moderate a thread you are involved in.

sometimes the lines are blurred and you don't see it till you look back.

it isnt an easy task to be frank....

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Homestar was not on the moderatiing staff when making those comments, he resigned a while ago for reasons of his own, so not bound by the rules governing mods...

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Originally Posted by Davo

Oh, I understand what you're saying Dave, no argument there, and it doesn't work too badly. And you may remember I've mentioned this sort of thing once or twice in the past. What's frustrating is when, as in this instance, a member like blackrangie tries to twist a discussion into something personal instead of just sticking to the original point, and then instead of being told to behave a moderator bumbles in with this:



essentially agreeing with him, which just makes me bang my head on the keyboard. I've just spent more time than it appears to be worth trying to explain why it wouldn't work, and . . . why did I bother, exactly?

And how many times does this happen when there is a discussion that goes out of control because of one or two members? And what happens? The good people give up and leave, the loudmouths stay on, and too often when I've told people about this forum it turns out that its reputation has preceded it, which is enough to put them off. Over the last decade I've had this happen quite a few times.

As for me, why should I stay? I have almost three decades of Land-Rover DIY and enough knowledge to help a few people, but there's always that one guy with the big mouth who can't stick to the point. Why should I bother participating when these guys aren't told to shut up and manage to ruin quite a few good threads?

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As Inc said, I'm not a mod any more - couldn't commit the time required at the moment so thought it best to remove myself. Most here wouldn't know how much time, effort and dedication it takes to assist in running this place but there's always those that critisise what is done by the volunteers here all too easily IMO - It can be a VERY tough job. And I don't see what this has to do with anything anyway? Am I the first person to voice my opinion here? But you choose to single me out? Does it matter if I agree with you or not? No one here listens to a thing I say about power systems or generators and that's what I've been doing for a living most of my life, so hey that's the way it is sometimes.

I personally don't think you need to get a bee in your bonnet about it that's for sure. If any offence has been caused by me voicing an opinion, I do sincerly appologise. You might be right, and have done more research than me - that's cool, but don't make it personal like this, it really isn't warranted IMO.

And again, that's MY OPINION - just as valid as any others here - right or wrong. I'm happy to leave it at that, no offence really caused, I'm just a bit perplexed by it all is all.