1990 RRC A/C...What to do...

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Originally Posted by 4bee

There was a "theory" a while ago that the London Grenfell Tower initial explosion was caused by a 'new fangled' inflammable gas in a fridge. Apparently something caused the back of the guy's fridge to explode or so he said.

Never saw anything further about it but that could be due to many things including a cover up/whitewash,
or it may have just been a theory after all.


Just sayin'. [bighmmm]

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You gotta go with what you personally feel comfortable with I guess. I'm betting a domestic fridge only has 150gms of bang gas in ... No doubt enough to scare the **** out of everyone... Probably not enough to maim and kill :confused:

I wonder how they actually explode. Do they rupture and dump the refrigerant into the room that is then ignited? If they literally exploded due to extreme system pressures, well any refrigerant will do that ( I wonder if it actually ignites as it "explodes" though to create an explosion of the actual refrigerant igniting).

seeya
Shane L.

Any refrigerant leak, especially a sudden one, will contain a minute (depends on system of course) % of miscible oil so that has to be included in the risk. What effect it would have I can't say, as this crap is all new to me.

Here you go. FWIW. He had it for 5 years apparently but if a problem suddenly existed so what, it's reliable time was up just like a new LR.

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What contributed to the London tower block disaster?

A Hotpoint FF175BP fridge freezer in a fourth floor flat was initially blamed for starting the deadly blaze but a new report suggests it might not have.
It is suspected the fire, which broke out at Mr Kebede's flat, set light to the flammable exterior cladding through the gaps around the flat windows.
The public inquiry heard that Mr Kebede bought the fridge brand new, five years before the fire, and it was problem free.
After witnesses said flames spread up the exterior cladding, an urgent review of tower block safety was launched.
Read up on the Grenfell tower fire

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The public inquiry heard that Mr Kebede bought the fridge brand new, five years before the fire, and it was problem free.

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HERO'S JOB FIGHT

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Here you go. FWIW. He had it for 5 years apparently but if a problem suddenly existed so what, it's reliable time was up just like a new LR.

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Now that is interesting ... the fridge exploding I believe .......... Especially if the room containing the fridge was on fire at the time ................... What would burn better than something full of bang gas and oil under pressure :o

If they had sprinklers like the Melbourne apartment block it would have been a non event, except now AFAIK the residents in melbourne are up for 100K each to fix it. Wouldn't that ruin your day.

What about the ICON. My uneducated guess is that while the core is sound , the floor loadings are insufficient for the appliances and furniture from when the residents moved in. If so they will all need additional piers. I saw this in Canberra. Austrade was due to move into a new building. when they added the computers the floors gave way.

i know of a block of units at Mona Vale where all of the balconies had to be rebuilt at a cost of 40K for each resident , because of concrete cancer.
Ah Apartment living perfect one day and crap the next.
Regards Philip A

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

If they had sprinklers like the Melbourne apartment block it would have been a non event, except now AFAIK the residents in melbourne are up for 100K each to fix it. Wouldn't that ruin your day.

What about the ICON. My uneducated guess is that while the core is sound , the floor loadings are insufficient for the appliances and furniture from when the residents moved in. If so they will all need additional piers. I saw this in Canberra. Austrade was due to move into a new building. when they added the computers the floors gave way.

i know of a block of units at Mona Vale where all of the balconies had to be rebuilt at a cost of 40K for each resident , because of concrete cancer.
Ah Apartment living perfect one day and crap the next.
Regards Philip A

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Probably just me ... but I couldn't imagine anything worse. This is the view from my "balcony" .... also know as a 9 x 9 meter decked area with a carport over it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...9&d=1546836632

I guess people living in apartments don't have as much grass to cut as me though ... [bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

i know of a block of units at Mona Vale where all of the balconies had to be rebuilt at a cost of 40K for each resident , because of concrete cancer.

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Probably "built" by my old boss...

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Now that is interesting ... the fridge exploding I believe .......... Especially if the room containing the fridge was on fire at the time ................... What would burn better than something full of bang gas and oil under pressure

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A Chicken or the Egg situation I reckon in the case of Grenfell.




Icon? I really feel for those residents no matter how much cash they apparently have.

Bought in good faith, Life savings & some crap designer, Builder, Council Building "Inspector" buggers up the rest of your life for a possible backhander or two.

It is all going to end in big tears, mark my words. As 'er indoors often says "Those responsible will be the first against my wall (firing squad) when the time comes".


I should tell her that if she can find a decent builder to build one then be my guest. [smilebigeye][smilebigeye]


As for Concrete cancer, it was reported that this was going to be a huge problem in years to come on the Gold Coast as the reo was rusting from the structure ends & blowing off the render & concrete . No one seemed to have the solution then but I hope there is one now because can you imagine the legal disputes & the enormity of that problem in all those high rises.

Time will tell eh?

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Originally Posted by gavinwibrow

HiChill lover, hater, or on the fence? always interested in your opinions/feedback.

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a bit of both...

its not as effective or as drop in as they would have you believe but it works in a lot of situations, isnt yet a controlled refrigerant and is easy to adapt a system to if you dont have leaking seals in a hard to get to place.

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I guess people living in apartments don't have as much grass to cut as me though ...

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True enough DC, but they also wouldn't have the lovely smell of newly cut grass as well as nearest neighbours a few hundred metres away instead of just through the party wall.[bighmmm]