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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    .... a premium for condition, originality, and correctness of the restoration.
    That's what I was thinking - they've replaced too much for it to be a concours vehicle. It's more like one of the rebuilt Jags or Toyota FJ40s that are around.
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    This is the great dilemma: should a vehicle be kept in as original condition as possible, even if it isn't perfect, or should it be made 'better than new'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey_ghost View Post
    It is a very nice example. There is the thread on “restoring a series”.
    I am in no way saying that it cost that much to restore but a restoration of that quality would cost a lot.
    Non genuine steering wheel though.
    Do you have a link by chance?
    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    That's what I was thinking - they've replaced too much for it to be a concours vehicle. It's more like one of the rebuilt Jags or Toyota FJ40s that are around.
    I'm 2 people removed from the guy who did the Jags I'm assuming you mean.

    The ones that had XJ 6.6 on the back of the boot, aka a big block GM. All the ones I saw were on LPG.

    The motor they should have had in the first place (AFAIK they already had turbo 350's).

    I consider the donk and trans in my POS the sort of things that should have been in it in the first place. Don't care at all if it's worth less than a resto 3.5 RRC, life's too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    This is the great dilemma: should a vehicle be kept in as original condition as possible, even if it isn't perfect, or should it be made 'better than new'?
    Depends what you wish to do with it. If you want good performance and a reliable daily driver then repower your RR with a Chev 350. If you wish to show it as a Range Rover then originality and correctness is paramount unless you are showing it at a street machine/hot rod show. I was a show judge for some years. Taking 100 points as perfection then the only vehicles that got to 95 and (very) rarely more are fresh, perfect, and correct in every detail restorations. A very good well kept original unrestored car rarely got over 80 even giving a bit of leeway for its well kept originality. Likewise older restorations that were really still very good but showing signs of use.

    I have long wondered why RR's have not been repowered with Buick 300's. A really nice engine but probably getting rare nowadays. A 300 with the high performance aluminium heads and a Q-jet, cam, and headers is a real goer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    I'm 2 people removed from the guy who did the Jags I'm assuming you mean.

    The ones that had XJ 6.6 on the back of the boot, aka a big block GM. All the ones I saw were on LPG.

    The motor they should have had in the first place (AFAIK they already had turbo 350's).

    I consider the donk and trans in my POS the sort of things that should have been in it in the first place. Don't care at all if it's worth less than a resto 3.5 RRC, life's too short.

    DL
    No, I was thinking of the complete rebuilds being done in the UK that TopGear did a story on once.
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    I’m watching this with interest as one who’s done hard yards on resto but did it my way. I’ll never put it into a concours show cause frankly I reckon they’re bs. They celebrate all original bits but acknowledge none of faults. Which owners often tried to fix. I’ve already had people saying “ we want to buy” yes I get it no $$ changed hands so you couldn’t go to bank on it. But I know how much it costs to do a proper job. And - how much disposable income some have. So it’s really a case of right buyer for right car will determine price. I must admit that on this forum many still seem fixated on “ in my day”. Well- times change.

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    When mines finished this is what I’d compare it to. And if people didn’t want to pay I couldn’t care less. https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...AG-AD-17126036

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    This is the great dilemma: should a vehicle be kept in as original condition as possible, even if it isn't perfect, or should it be made 'better than new'?
    We are in this dilemma with the Series1 in my sig.

    It really needs a paint job,sometime in the near future,but it won't look original as it always has, anymore

    The paint they use these days will give it a completely different look.
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    Personally, I would value a well-maintained original with a bit of patina higher than a 'better than new' restoration, simply because I think the history of what has happened to the vehicle is part of the story of the vehicle.
    A 'better than new' restoration actually obliterates the history of the vehicle.
    For example, if a vehicle originally was produced with a faulty or inferior part, then that is a part of its history. Replacing it with an improved part wipes out its originality and just makes it like a 'hot rod'.
    I don't want a hot rod, I want a vehicle as close to original as possible.
    Obviously, others disagree. That's fine.
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