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    Front flexible brake hose

    I'm looking for a front brake hose for a military Series III and someone has suggested the hose from a Range Rover Classic might be the solution.

    I've attached a sketch, does anyone happen to have one handy so that they could confirm it's length. The fittings for flare nuts each end look right and are hopefully 3/8" UNF. Problem is I cannot find details of the length anywhere



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    Length of front brake hose on my 1988 RRC is around 440mm given the diagram you have provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Kaye View Post
    Length of front brake hose on my 1988 RRC is around 440mm given the diagram you have provided.
    Thanks Richard.
    Possibly a way of getting a lower cost hose, I just need to ensure the extra length doesn't get in the way.

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    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
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    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
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    You can order them in different lengths

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meccles View Post
    You can order them in different lengths
    Fully aware of this, problem is the massive jump in price compared to an off the shelf item.

    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    My honest advice is to look online for goodridge or hel stainless braided lines, you can get whatever length you need, all you need to do is ask.
    I've not found them to be a huge price difference, ever.

    I've had braided stainless hoses made here to compliance standards and those were over $250 - cost price of materials - because a mate's old man owned a huge brake workshop in the 'gong (sold now, so can't get any more favours)

    Rubber hoses are ok - but I have found they do not last longer than 5 years before they show signs of fatigue and deterioration, stainless steel fittings and stainless braided teflon is a better (but more expensive) solution, the problem being that some "expert" decided that the whip test was the absolute decisive means by which a brake hose should be approved as ADR compliant, when the reality is it is not a real world failure scenario. But I digress.

    The point of this is to say, that *if* you want braided lines (and believe me, you do want them for the massive pedal modulation performance benefit) then you need 'DOT' approved lines - IF the vehicle is to be registered.

    If you are not registering the vehicle, then I absolutely recommend that you use speedflow stainless brake fittings and the correct teflon lined brake hose. It's a superior mechanical fitting to a crimp, and it's serviceable - which is the main thing. Race teams have been using them for literally decades and brake failures in race cars are usually due to other factors besides a whip test or a kink test(which btw a proper spec braided hose will easily pass)

    here's the goodridge list for Landrover, I lifted from their cattle dog.
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    Roads?.. Where we're going, we don't need roads...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercguy View Post
    I've not found them to be a huge price difference, ever.
    To get them made, cost $47.50 plus GST (was quoted $110 by another company !).
    Online you can buy the early Rangie ones for $13, $6.36 in the UK but freight pushes the price up unless you are importing other items.
    The reason for looking for an equivalent from another model is that I appreciate the economies of scale when making them in quantity.

    Rubber hoses seem to last OK without cracking.
    Hoses fitted to the Military Series III I'm working on look like originals from 1980 (several oversprays of olive drab), no cracks and could have been re-used.


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    To get them made, cost $47.50 plus GST (was quoted $110 by another company !).
    Online you can buy the early Rangie ones for $13, $6.36 in the UK but freight pushes the price up unless you are importing other items.
    The reason for looking for an equivalent from another model is that I appreciate the economies of scale when making them in quantity.

    Rubber hoses seem to last OK without cracking.
    Hoses fitted to the Military Series III I'm working on look like originals from 1980 (several oversprays of olive drab), no cracks and could have been re-used.


    Colin
    It's internal fatigue, swelling, delamination and degradation, not visible external cracks.
    It is a well documented known issue with rubber hydraulic hoses.

    it's your vehicle, your safety and your decision.

    Best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercguy View Post

    it's your vehicle, your safety and your decision.
    It certainly is.

    If I followed all the 'advice' on what to change when, I'd be either very poor or would just give up and drive a modern vehicle.


    Colin
    '56 Series 1 with homemade welder
    '65 Series IIa Dormobile
    '70 SIIa GS
    '76 SIII 88" (Isuzu C240)
    '81 SIII FFR
    '95 Defender Tanami
    '58 Series II (sold)
    Motorcycles :-
    Vincent Rapide, Panther M100, Norton BIG4, Electra & Navigator, Matchless G80C

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