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    Smile EAS - 1994 'Soft Dash' Classic

    Hello to all this being my first post.

    Would someone please be able to tell me who is the absolute best in Melbourne to diagnose EAS issues on a 94 'Soft Dash' Classic.
    The air compressor (only 1 y.o) has run too often (air leak somewhere?) and eventually at random and without warning car has gone to bump stops.
    Three different L-R specialists have been unable to find air leaks at the usual locations (Air bags/lines etc) the last one fitting an allegedly NEW P38 Valve block and associated driver. Despite that and the absence of leaks at the known points the compressor still ran too frequently and after a couple of weeks car went down to bump stops which is where it is now. FWIW the air bags (ex Airbagman) look good being about 6 y.o and height sensors (genuine L-R) are about 10 y.o. In view of this I need someone who knows the '94 EAS system 'Backwards'.

    Thanks in advance for any input

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    I think a squirt bottle filled with detergent is required.

    There are so many leak points that you will have to start at the bags and work forward.

    Maybe LRA (Les Richmond Automotive) may have a long standing tech who knows about them, but you could spend a fortune if not willing to get under and DIY.
    RRCs are really now enthusiast cars .
    Regards PhilipA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue1994 View Post
    Hello to all this being my first post.

    Would someone please be able to tell me who is the absolute best in Melbourne to diagnose EAS issues on a 94 'Soft Dash' Classic.
    The air compressor (only 1 y.o) has run too often (air leak somewhere?) and eventually at random and without warning car has gone to bump stops.
    Three different L-R specialists have been unable to find air leaks at the usual locations (Air bags/lines etc) the last one fitting an allegedly NEW P38 Valve block and associated driver. Despite that and the absence of leaks at the known points the compressor still ran too frequently and after a couple of weeks car went down to bump stops which is where it is now. FWIW the air bags (ex Airbagman) look good being about 6 y.o and height sensors (genuine L-R) are about 10 y.o. In view of this I need someone who knows the '94 EAS system 'Backwards'.

    Thanks in advance for any input
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    Hey Blue. I've got a blue soft dash 1994 LSE Rangie still with an operating EAS System. Finding air leaks can be difficult. A compressed air leak detector may prove helpful and quicker/easier than the soapy water trick. From memory they are not that expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    Hey Blue. I've got a blue soft dash 1994 LSE Rangie still with an operating EAS System. Finding air leaks can be difficult. A compressed air leak detector may prove helpful and quicker/easier than the soapy water trick. From memory they are not that expensive.
    Thank you for that suggestion and as it happens I had only recently been looking at an ultrasonic air leak detector on eBay - about $120.
    I would imagine that in theory such a device would be more effective that the 'Soapy Suds' spray method.

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    As Philip said, to keep a 94 Range Rover in original running condition is the task of an enthusiast who is prepared to make it a labor of love. It would be very hard to find someone who has done much work on those EAS systems professionally, they typically were replaced with coils when they started to give trouble once out of the hands of the original owner; as you are finding, they were a money pit once they started to give trouble. I re-converted a 94 soft-dash from coils to EAS some years ago, loved it but often also fixed it. I'd hate to be paying dealer rates to keep a 26-year-old EAS system functional.
    Having said that, there was an independent specialist in Frankston ( think they were called Peninsula Range Rover) whose owner was probably of the appropriate era, although he may well be retired and gone by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    Hey Blue. I've got a blue soft dash 1994 LSE Rangie still with an operating EAS System.
    It's not ex-Qld is it, with a 3rd row of folding seats (or at least fittings on the floor for one)
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    It's not ex-Qld is it, with a 3rd row of folding seats (or at least fittings on the floor for one)
    Sorry Vlad....no extra seats/fittings and not ex Queensland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue1994 View Post
    Thank you for that suggestion and as it happens I had only recently been looking at an ultrasonic air leak detector on eBay - about $120.
    I would imagine that in theory such a device would be more effective that the 'Soapy Suds' spray method.
    This is the one I've got, bought it years ago and back then it was the cheapest going - I'm a scrooge at heart !

    INFICON 711-202-G1 Ultrasonic Leak Detector | eBay

    you also need the Magyck Blakk Box wot tells you wot's wrong, and reads such things as individual heights, then lets you alter said parameters.
    Or elevate the Creature from off it's bum p stops...

    EAS Kicker - BLACKBOX SOLUTIONS LTD

    The only other essential device is a self-rescue valve arrangement, and to be sure, make four of them and install them in/on the vehicle. This allows you to revert to 100% manual control over all 4 airbags.

    If you're still with me...... and going to persist with bringing a Classic back to "Original", then the final step is...
    Have your head examined !

    (There are very few of us, on this side of the funny farm fence.)

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    I converted back to the EAS system from coils in my previous soft dash without too much drama. It's not a hard system to work on but you do need something to read the fault codes. I got the free download EAS Unlock Suite from RSW Solutions and them bought the connector from them on ebay. Range Rover - Classic

    I ended up buying 4 new air springs, rebuilt the compressor and valve block, fitted 3 new height sensors, replaced the relays that had been removed and set it to work and calibrated the height. Looking back without the EAS unlock suite it would have been nearly impossible to get it working. 2 of the height sensors needed the signal wires swapped around which I've would never have found out they were wired wrong for the Classic if not for the Program.

    The car was so much better with the EAS than it was on coils. I think all up it cost me just under a grand for all the parts.

    If the Land Rover mechanics couldn't work out what is wrong with your system they didn't have a way of reading the faults and just through parts at it. Get yourself the RSW EAS Unlock Suite or the Black Box program and see what is wrong with the system and go from there.
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