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How rare could they be? I've got an LT85-4BD1 bellhousing, but Matt's comment about advising customers to avoid 5th in the R380 for long periods makes me think that the Isuzu MSA box would be a better option for a 6x6 Defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dervish
G'day Phil,Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil B
I said when I put the cab on that it would stay for the winter. Now that spring has well and truly sprung I can't bring myself to switch back to the canvas. The cab is secure, dry, quiet, sealable from dust and I reckon it looks pretty good too. If you want the wind in your hair, the rear cab windows open and you have as much fresh air as with the canvas. There's a heap of plusses and no minuses I can think of.
I'll still change back to the full canvas on the right camping trips and for shows; but around town the cab is just too good to give up; too practical.
I think a 6x6 would probably be asking too much of an r380. Problem with the Isuzu MSAs is that the ratios are spread so far that they're only ever driven as four speeds anyway. With that in mind, I personally can't see the benefit of the conversion over an LT95 - given that they're both really 4 (usable) speed, the LT95 has better ratios. I know your dilemma though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
Most of the MSA conversions are using earlier suffix boxes, I'm looking for an MSA 5R which has higher first making a more usable box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dervish
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment...-gearboxes.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment...uzu-gb-5th.jpg
Remember that the LT95 is:so comparable when you consider the greater flexibility with the LT230 t/f ratios.
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Originally Posted by Dervish
Dervish,
Thanks for your reply.
I think you are spot on and by the sounds of it I am going the right way.:cool:
48 749 didn't have a canvas on when I bought it anyway so the cost is neutral-I have to do something.
I'll let you know how I go, with some photo's.
Might be good to put both of them together at some stage for a photo as well.:D
Regards,
Phil.
Maybe we should compare like for like.
While the MSA-5R is still revving about 33% higher in first (we are pushing a lot more weight in the Defer 6x6 than the 110 4X4) and that continues through second.
By the time we get to third the difference is only about 23% and in fourth the MSA is only revving 19% higher and still has another gear.
at 110kph the LT95 is revving 2455RPM while the MSA-5R is 2193RPM 11% lower than the LT95 and less fuel.
Changing back the MSA could drop into 4th at 90kph and be doing the same revs as the LT95 at 110 which would have to wait to around 70kph before it could change back.
It would be a pain having to change from first to second so soon after moving off, a bit like Series Landies, but when loaded I'm pretty sure it would be a bonus. Just my opinion.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment...comparison.jpg
I think you've won me around. I looked at it assuming the 14D (1.003:1) LT230 and 235/85r16s, which gives you this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/a...psac344988.png
(Dotted lines are LT95, solid are MSA-5R w. 1.003 LT230). I think first would still be a smidgen low, but still useful and aside from that you get an overdrive. Not bad.
Just out of curiosity, here is the MSA-5R w. 1.003 LT230 (dotted) plotted against an R380 w. 1.003 LT230 (solid). Interesting comparison.
http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa82c6aa7.png
Sounds great, I'd be keen for a trip out somewhere - perhaps with all the Sydney Perenties?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil B
This company added a truck cab. This is what I thought I would do until I saw the KLR Hardtop version. Hope this helps.
This lot are taking the **** a bit, $8k for a lid?
Land Rover 90/110/Perentie Truck Cab Roof
This guys prices are all too steep. Rip off merchant.