Do any of the Perenties hold value to collectors?

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

I have been involved with veteran, vintage, classic, and collectable cars and motor cycles since my teen years. I am 73. I firmly believe in the collector adage of "rubbish then=rubbish now". Low priced mass produced family cars will never have collector appeal except to a small group of dedicated fans. You wont see Falcons going for millions at the Pebble Beach or Amelia Island auctions. Look at Mustangs, once sought after and sold up to $70,000. Now the owners are hard put to shift them in the 20's and 30's.There is one that has been for sale in Brisbane that started at $150,000 (hell of a sense of humour this guy) which has gradually been reduced to $75,000 and still no takers. Much pre-war mass produced restorations are now almost unsaleable at any price. Why? They were just basic cars, no great technical merit, no competition history, not owned by the famous or notorious. Just cheap cars. If you want something that will hold or increase its value look for the upmarket luxury or high performance vehicles of their time. Some might even still be fun to drive and not too dangerous in today's traffic.

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Yeah mate I've been in the classic car scene a fair while. Family runs a small workshop that does restorations, imports, builds race cars. They are starting up a classic car and vintage motorcycle Auction House next year. I wasn't talking about million dollar cars like 2000GT's and Daytona coupes selling at Mecum was more talking about a nice matching numbers GS falcon being very sought after and going for 30-50k easily with GT's fetching even more... Or a 57 2 door pillarless chev pulling 80k. Pony cars were worth money when people were importing them from the states for 25k and selling them here for 45k. Now people just import them themselves. The internet changed all that. All different cars go up and down in value at different times. VG and VF Valiants used to be worth nothing a few years ago now they are going up quite quickly while others cars are coming down...

Anyway back to the subject value doesn't really worry me was asking more if it holds historic value to a purist or collector regardless of monetary value. I'm either modifying it or I will pass it on to someone to restore and keep it... I have no interest in another collector car we already have enough cars sitting around including a 67 pugota Merc, a rough XT GT getting restored, a VG pacer and a 1923 Harley I'm rebuilding. I'm running out of shed space haha...

So...are you saying my old Disco 1 will not be worth $50,000 in 10 years time. Bugga!!!

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Originally Posted by 110Lizard

Yeah mate I've been in the classic car scene a fair while. Family runs a small workshop that does restorations, imports, builds race cars. They are starting up a classic car and vintage motorcycle Auction House next year. I wasn't talking about million dollar cars like 2000GT's and Daytona coupes selling at Mecum was more talking about a nice matching numbers GS falcon being very sought after and going for 30-50k easily with GT's fetching even more... Or a 57 2 door pillarless chev pulling 80k. Pony cars were worth money when people were importing them from the states for 25k and selling them here for 45k. Now people just import them themselves. The internet changed all that. All different cars go up and down in value at different times. VG and VF Valiants used to be worth nothing a few years ago now they are going up quite quickly while others cars are coming down...

Anyway back to the subject value doesn't really worry me was asking more if it holds historic value to a purist or collector regardless of monetary value. I'm either modifying it or I will pass it on to someone to restore and keep it... I have no interest in another collector car we already have enough cars sitting around including a 67 pugota Merc, a rough XT GT getting restored, a VG pacer and a 1923 Harley I'm rebuilding. I'm running out of shed space haha...

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That is a Pagoda Merc W113. Mmmmm..... yes, very desirable.

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

I have been involved with veteran, vintage, classic, and collectable cars and motor cycles since my teen years. I am 73. I firmly believe in the collector adage of "rubbish then=rubbish now". Low priced mass produced family cars will never have collector appeal except to a small group of dedicated fans. You wont see Falcons going for millions at the Pebble Beach or Amelia Island auctions. Look at Mustangs, once sought after and sold up to $70,000. Now the owners are hard put to shift them in the 20's and 30's.There is one that has been for sale in Brisbane that started at $150,000 (hell of a sense of humour this guy) which has gradually been reduced to $75,000 and still no takers. Much pre-war mass produced restorations are now almost unsaleable at any price. Why? They were just basic cars, no great technical merit, no competition history, not owned by the famous or notorious. Just cheap cars. If you want something that will hold or increase its value look for the upmarket luxury or high performance vehicles of their time. Some might even still be fun to drive and not too dangerous in today's traffic.

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Brian, it depends a lot on the car. In the early 1980s there was a really cheap car called a Moke Californian. Very basic and nothing very advanced in it. New, they were about $5,000. Today, a Californian can command prices of around $25,000.

All ex military vehicles are collectible. Some more so than others, some more expensive, some quite cheap. Supply and demand has a huge impact and at present ex army Perenties are plentiful and cheap. They might never appreciate to high prices but they will always be collectible. Australian pattern vehicles from WW2 whilst being small in numbers produced attract a lot of interest with overseas collectors. More than a few Perenties will find their way into overseas collections. They might not command huge prices but they will most certainly be collected.

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Originally Posted by stealth

All ex military vehicles are collectible. Some more so than others, some more expensive, some quite cheap. Supply and demand has a huge impact and at present ex army Perenties are plentiful and cheap. They might never appreciate to high prices but they will always be collectible. Australian pattern vehicles from WW2 whilst being small in numbers produced attract a lot of interest with overseas collectors. More than a few Perenties will find their way into overseas collections. They might not command huge prices but they will most certainly be collected.

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Good point...

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Well, I'll upset a few LR types. I don't consider Land Rovers to be collector cars. Maybe a few individual ones with custom bodywork, or one owned/used by notable persons, or took part in significant events.

They are just a work horse of no great technical merit, mass produced, and relatively cheap when new.

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I disagree, I am a military vehicle collector, and my ww2 jeep lust goes up in value each year, regardless on where it went and also regardless if any campaign it served in, so long as it is in original condition.


Bruce