driving around with full set of bonnet tools is it ok

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

ADR 42/00 still doesn't apply to at least 250 Perenties built before July 1988.

Rovernutter. If you want to have the rules reinterpreted, get yourself elected to parliament or onto the Pedestrian Council where you can have your concerns heard.

Why come here and cause angst amongst genuine Perentie enthusiasts?

You are making friends of no one.

I am qualified in trauma and can tell you (again) that the tools on the bonnet of a Perentie are less of a problem than being hit by a Perentie (or defender or white van) in the first place.

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I am not sure what these comments are about. I just attempted to support Mick Marsh in his comments about how these discussions should take place.
I have posted the rules. I have not tried to interpret them, except for what "any person' might mean.
The question that started this thread was whether they are legal. I don't know and really don't care. I just posted the rules.
I have never heard of anyone being pulled over by the cops for having them. There appears to have been some issues when registering them.

So whether they are legal or not does not appear to be an issue at this stage. Cops, do however appear to bring things out of the woodwork from time to time to have a blitz on. Like in Victoria when they decided to start booking people for LED light bars.

So Mick asked twice for someone to post the rules. As no one else appeared willing to do the search to find them, I did. Now I appear to be in the **** for doing so. This is all very weird, I appear to being blamed for things that I have not done. I really do not know what I have done to upset you. This appears to be a really touchy subject for some reason. This is just weird. Obviously I was not aware that it is something that is not to be discussed. I apologise for any post that people have taken offence at.

So you're not the REMLR member with the letter writing campaign then?

In NSW the issue of fittings on Perenties, particularly the lifting points on the brush bars was raised by AFM with the RTA technical branch prior to the commencement of the Perentie disposal program. RTA ruled that at the time of original build the fittings/protrusions complied with the rules. The sales program commenced on that basis.

It just seems to many of us that in spite of the approvals, some people here and on other forums keep coming back to the same arguments. Whether that is you or someone else it matters not. It remains that the instructions to inspectors issued by the NSW RMS, do not refer to protrusions on the bonnet behind the leading edge of the bull bar.

That this same conjecture keeps coming back time and again is frustrating to all of us.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

So you're not the REMLR member with the letter writing campaign then?

It just seems to many of us that in spite of the approvals, some people here and on other forums keep coming back to the same arguments. Whether that is you or someone else it matters not. It remains that the instructions to inspectors issued by the NSW RMS, do not refer to protrusions on the bonnet behind the leading edge of the bull bar.

That this same conjecture keeps coming back time and again is frustrating to all of us.

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I am not a member of REMLR.
I am not the one that started this thread about whether they are legal or not. I did not raise the issue.
I have not offered any opinion as to whether they are legal or not.
I only posted the rules as requested by Mick Marsh. Then Mick appeared to try and discredit the rules that I posted. Which confused me.
I have already apologised if any of my posts have offended anyone.
I am not sure what else I can do.
I am not going to get into a debate whether they are legal or not. All I have suggested is that they are pretty useless anyway, so if you have any concerns about them, why not remove them.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

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In NSW the issue of fittings on Perenties, particularly the lifting points on the brush bars was raised by AFM with the RTA technical branch prior to the commencement of the Perentie disposal program. RTA ruled that at the time of original build the fittings/protrusions complied with the rules. The sales program commenced on that basis.

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This would be nice to have in writing if it is out there somewhere?

It may not help you in WA.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

It may not help you in WA.

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Every little bit counts. The rules are (reasonably) uniform nationally these days...

I have no idea about the legalties and don't care much, but I do wonder if military vehicles are actually covered by ADRs or were they exempt at the time of manufacture. Also, if they were exempt then, but are now being registered for public usage, do they cease to be exempt and have to comply?
Just curious...

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

Every little bit counts. The rules are (reasonably) uniform nationally these days...

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As the posts in this thread have shown, it is not about the rules, it is about the interpretation of these rules.
I do not think that a Government person in WA is really going to rely much on what interpretation a NSW government person has given, or even a Commonwealth person.
This is what causes all these debates, different people having different interpretations. As indicated earlier, it is only the interpretation of the State that you are registering the vehicle in that counts. That is why you need to check with them if you have any concerns.

Gentlemen this thread has been closed while it is reviewed.