Thread: driving around with full set of bonnet tools is it ok

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Now lets talk about the bulldog on the bonnet of a Mack truck.

That will hurt as it carves a gouge through your hip as you travel across the bonnet of the truck.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

I think that turbo air scoops are about as dangerous as a downwards pointed shove.

How about we remove turbo scoops too!

(You still need to discuss hospitals if you car going to discuss ambulances) Think of all the savings we could make if people didn't go to hospital and acquire golden staph!

Now lets talk about the bulldog on the bonnet of a Mack truck.

I think Rovernutter summed up the legalities of it. If it makes injury more likely, it's probably not OK.


Incidentally, hospitals are concentrated full of diseases and their carriers, so they definitely should be banned.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

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If it makes injury more likely, it's probably not OK.
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Huh? There will be injuries regardless...

Originally Posted by rovernutter

Now lets get to the argument about it being a nanny state in having these laws. I will accept this argument from anyone that is prepared to move the tools and their mounts from the bonnet to inside on the dash. See if their view changes when it is only them that is likely to ever hit them.

Would be happy to do so and my views wouldn't change. If I'm involved in a prang in my 101, it's gunna hurt regardless - then I'll end up in one of those dangerous Ambulances and Hospitals.

The only 2 reasons I won't is - (1) - there's no room on my dash for the tools, and (2) - they would be hard to get to there.

And, as you mentioned, the ADR's quoted only apply after 88 so my 101 - and some of the Perenties being talked about - are exempt from these ADR's anyway, so tool up my friends.

its legal therefor safe isnt a great argument.

It's interesting reading the ADRs.
You know, the ADRs cannot be applied retrospectively.
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/...ign/index.aspx

When a road vehicle is first used on Australian roads the relevant state or territory government's legislation generally requires that it continue to comply with the relevant ADRs as at the time of manufacture.

https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/...dr_online.aspx
ADR 42/00 was made 23/09/2006.
https://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2006L03251

So,

Originally Posted by rovernutter

42.9. EXTERNAL OR INTERNAL PROTRUSIONS

42.9.1. No vehicle must be equipped with:

42.9.1.1. any object or fitting, not technically essential to such vehicle, which protrudes from any part of the vehicle so that it is likely to increase the risk of bodily injury to any person;

42.9.1.2. any object or fitting technically essential to such vehicle unless its design, construction and conditions and the manner in which it is affixed to the vehicle are such as to reduce to a minimum the risk of bodily injury to any person;

42.9.1.3. any object or fitting which, because it is pointed or has a sharp edge, is likely to increase the risk of bodily injury to any person; or

42.9.1.4. any bumper bar the end of which is not turned towards the body of the vehicle to a sufficient extent to avoid any risk of hooking or grazing.

may not even apply to the Perenties.

Of further thought, the pedestrian friendly barrow started being pushed about 1996, when the last of the Perenties were being built. It is an interesting read.
See attached.

With cars, the impact point is around the knee. Any pedestrian is likely to hit the bonnet of a passenger car and be run under. With Perenties, the impact point is around the upper torso. Any pedestrian is likely to bounce off the brush bar of the Perentie and hit the road in front of the Perentie and be run over.

So, we now come to some wording in rovernutters post. "is likely to increase the risk of bodily injury to any person". The pedestrian is not likely hit the bonnet of the Perentie so the tools are not likely to increase the risk of bodily injury to any person.

Originally Posted by bacicat

the ADR's quoted only apply after 88 so my 101 - and some of the Perenties being talked about - are exempt from these ADR's anyway, so tool up my friends.

For vehicles built prior to 1989, it is up to each individual state to set the rules for registration in that state. Even though these rules will generally refer to the ADRs in place at the time of manufacture, the states can set whatever rules they like.

So in regard to the tools on the bonnet for pre-1989, you should look at the states rules. A number of states ban them, I am not sure how many, if any, allow them.

If anyone has a concern as to whether they are legal or not in their state, they could just send a photo to the registering authority and ask the question.

Originally Posted by rovernutter

If anyone has a concern as to whether they are legal or not in their state, they could just send a photo to the registering authority and ask the question.

Or not. Don't bother the registration authorities.
Get a roadworthy, register the Perentie and enjoy.