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    "New" perentie miscellaneous questions

    Hi, just got my perentie delivered today and after having driven it I have a few questions:

    It has had a keyed ignition installed, however the only way of turning it is with the key which is difficult - it is very tight. Are they meant to have 'wings' on the lock to help with this?

    It will not start immediately, turning the key to start doesn't turn the motor over until after quite a few tries, even when hot. The ignition, brake light comes on and the ?throttle light (right hand light) comes on dimly when turned to start. I know with diesels you usually need to wait til a light goes out before trying to start, after the glow plugs have warmed up. From the wiring diagram I can't see anything to prevent it from starting. I am not sure what a stop/start motor is on the diagram but something certainly stops and starts when I turn the ignition on and off.

    Is there an owners manual available for these things to tell me what all the lights mean?!

    It leaks some oil from the front diff, transfer case but seems to be only a few drips. I appreciate that these cars are old. Would it be worthwhile getting it checked out?

    Is there a good place in Adelaide to get land rover parts from? At present I only need the bottom steering shroud cove, and possibly rubber body seals etc.

    Thanks everyone.

    Jon

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    if the key is tight it may not have the lock mechanisim installed correctly.

    assuming by not starting you mean its not cranking over.

    if the key mech isnt in right the start switch in the ignition might not be making contact, if its not that it might be the aux start relay or the solenoid on the starter sticking.

    the glow plugs are key activated and not on a timer you hold it in the mid position between on and start and an orange choke symbol should light up.

    so long as it makes a winding noise when you goto the ignition on position and the same again when you turn the ignition off then the starting circuit is your problem.
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    Yes, not cranking over. There only seems to be three positions (off/on/start) but I'll look into this tomorrow. Thanks Dave.
    Jon

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    the glow plug position is not detented, its half way between on and start and your only indication you have hit the position is the light that looks a little like this

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    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnooh View Post
    Hi, just got my perentie delivered today and after having driven it I have a few questions:

    It has had a keyed ignition installed, however the only way of turning it is with the key which is difficult - it is very tight. Are they meant to have 'wings' on the lock to help with this?

    It will not start immediately, turning the key to start doesn't turn the motor over until after quite a few tries, even when hot. The ignition, brake light comes on and the ?throttle light (right hand light) comes on dimly when turned to start. I know with diesels you usually need to wait til a light goes out before trying to start, after the glow plugs have warmed up. From the wiring diagram I can't see anything to prevent it from starting. I am not sure what a stop/start motor is on the diagram but something certainly stops and starts when I turn the ignition on and off.

    Is there an owners manual available for these things to tell me what all the lights mean?!

    It leaks some oil from the front diff, transfer case but seems to be only a few drips. I appreciate that these cars are old. Would it be worthwhile getting it checked out?

    Is there a good place in Adelaide to get land rover parts from? At present I only need the bottom steering shroud cove, and possibly rubber body seals etc.

    Thanks everyone.

    Jon
    Most people changed to a keyed barrel, that does not have the finger nut turner, as per the original one without key, it can be a pain in the arse trying to turn the key with the standard barrel set up. Fit the keyed finger turn barrel and you will have no issues after that, I done this on the RFSV and the 6x6 works very well.

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    Yes, I will look into the keyed barrel with the wings, but apparently it means it can't be keyed the same as the doors....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnooh View Post
    Yes, I will look into the keyed barrel with the wings, but apparently it means it can't be keyed the same as the doors....
    I think that may be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnooh View Post
    Yes, I will look into the keyed barrel with the wings, but apparently it means it can't be keyed the same as the doors....
    depends on how much you want to pay to get it done.

    the series key barrels for the doors can be matched to the ignition barrel for the perentie that takes the key and has the wings. BUT IMHO...

    deal with 2 seperate keys, keep the ignition key on a QD connection (preferably one of the rare earth magnet type ones so you can pop it easily) doing so prolongs the life of the ignition barrel, and lets face it with the vibes coming off a 4bd1 every component needs every advantage it can get to having a long life.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    Humans included. Once you factor in the gym session savings you make, it cuts the running costs a fair bit. Its a wonder they don't attract FB tax.

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    Dave, what's a QD connection? Quick disconnect? Anyway, pulled the ignition switch out and looks like it was faulty, cleaned it up and put the original blank winged thing back in. I guess theres a lot of ways to do this, I was considering an immobiliser and doing away with an ignition key. In the meantime the dash toggle switches have seized up so will look into getting new...

    Thanks
    Jon

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