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    What solar panel can I use to charge dual batter

    Hi,
    Sorry if this is in the wrong place.

    I have a disco 4 and have one of the traxide dual battery units with an anderson plug installed.

    I believe I can charge the dual battery (Optima D34) via the anderson plug. I want to do this so that I can leave my fridge connected to the 12v while stationary for awhile.

    Has any one done this, if so what size solar panel can I use and any recommendations appreciated.

    I have no idea about solar panels so any help appreciated.

    Richard

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    what type of fridge and how many watts does it use and what do you mean for a while , how long ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard4u2 View Post
    what type of fridge and how many watts does it use and what do you mean for a while , how long ?
    It is a Waeco cf40 , Average Power Consumption: 0.87 amps/hr

    How long - varying but long enough to be a concern.

    I guess I want to know what the maximum size solar I can use in the is scenario and if any one had any recommendations.

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbowner View Post
    It is a Waeco cf40 , Average Power Consumption: 0.87 amps/hr
    So if you run it 24/7 thats approx 20amps per day. With an average of 5 hours effective sunlight, for example, (as in sun high in sky and max effective sunlight) you need your solar to produce 4 amps per hour. So I would suggest a minimum of 80 watt folding panel - this will give a max of around 6 amps per hour but more likely average around the 4 amps you need. If you have an insulated fridge cover you may consider turning the fridge off or down overnight when you are not opening it all the time and ambient air temp is lower, this will reduce the size of panel you need to carry. I use an 80watt folding panel with my Traxide setup and a Waeco CF35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty110 View Post
    So if you run it 24/7 thats approx 20amps per day. With an average of 5 hours effective sunlight, for example, (as in sun high in sky and max effective sunlight) you need your solar to produce 4 amps per hour. So I would suggest a minimum of 80 watt folding panel - this will give a max of around 6 amps per hour but more likely average around the 4 amps you need. If you have an insulated fridge cover you may consider turning the fridge off or down overnight when you are not opening it all the time and ambient air temp is lower, this will reduce the size of panel you need to carry. I use an 80watt folding panel with my Traxide setup and a Waeco CF35.
    Thanks Marty. Some good points.
    Do you use the anderson plug to charge the battery?

    Can you recommend one? There are so many on the market.

    Richard

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    I use rich solar brand as found on eBay, 120w folding with waterproof regulator, plugs into my Anderson plug on the rear bar.

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    When I purchased my first panel about 6 years ago the seller a very knowledgeable solar person told me 80 watts for a 40 litre fridge.
    Dave.

    I was asked " Is it ignorance or apathy?" I replied "I don't know and I don't care."


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    Quote Originally Posted by wbowner View Post
    Thanks Marty. Some good points.
    Do you use the anderson plug to charge the battery?

    Can you recommend one? There are so many on the market.

    Richard
    I use the Anderson on the rear whether charging by solar or with a battery charger. When parked in the shed for periods longer than a week I plug into 20watt panel on the shed roof to maintain the battery - these RRS use electricity standing still! Mine is just an ebay one - make sure the supplier has 100% feedback and you should be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty110 View Post
    I use the Anderson on the rear whether charging by solar or with a battery charger. When parked in the shed for periods longer than a week I plug into 20watt panel on the shed roof to maintain the battery - these RRS use electricity standing still! Mine is just an ebay one - make sure the supplier has 100% feedback and you should be right.
    Marty,
    When doing via a battery charger what is the size of it.


    Seems like there are a few options if you have the traxide set up

    1) Connect a solar to the anderson plug and it will charge the dual battery which will indirectly charge the cranking battery (as indicated in the traxide site that you pointed out in another thread)
    2) Connect a battery charger to the anderson plug for the same effect as above
    3) Connect using either of the other methods to the white round plug in the back which would charge the the cranking battery and also the dual battery. This has a limit of 15amps I believe.
    4) Connect direct to the batteries (but this is not as interesting ).

    To explain where I am coming from. I often will stop some where and either not use the car or only do short trips. In the past I have either run a lead through the window if I had 240v available or just disconnected the fridge after emptying it.
    I don't want to do this if possible.

    Many thanks to yours and other replies. It sounds like an 80w or more would do the job.

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbowner View Post
    Marty,
    When doing via a battery charger what is the size of it.


    Seems like there are a few options if you have the traxide set up

    1) Connect a solar to the anderson plug and it will charge the dual battery which will indirectly charge the cranking battery (as indicated in the traxide site that you pointed out in another thread)
    2) Connect a battery charger to the anderson plug for the same effect as above
    3) Connect using either of the other methods to the white round plug in the back which would charge the the cranking battery and also the dual battery. This has a limit of 15amps I believe.
    4) Connect direct to the batteries (but this is not as interesting ).

    To explain where I am coming from. I often will stop some where and either not use the car or only do short trips. In the past I have either run a lead through the window if I had 240v available or just disconnected the fridge after emptying it.
    I don't want to do this if possible.

    Many thanks to yours and other replies. It sounds like an 80w or more would do the job.

    Richard
    If I have to use a battery charger I use a C-tek 7 amp multi-stage 'smart' charger. This type of charger can be left connected to the batteries if your car is in storage to maintain them or to operate as a 'normal' battery charger if you have a flat battery. Most times it will put enough charge into a flat battery in about 15 minutes to enable a start (only if the car fires first turn of the key though). This can be connected via the rear Anderson plug. I dont know about charging via the white plug on the rear.

    My previous 2 Defenders had solar panels permanently mounted on the roof - an 80w panel up there enabled me to camp for 10 days (maybe longer, but I never went over 10 days) without starting the car using a 50 litre fridge. I am strangely reluctant to drill holes in the RRS though so now use my 80w folding panel but as yet not for extended stays, but it should do the same job.

    From what you describe re short or no trips I would connect up a solar panel to the car whether running a fridge or not as I imagine the D4 also uses plenty of electricity while parked.

    It really depends on how much you want to spend - cheap folding rigid panels off ebay up to the new high tech 'soft' panels that also fold or roll up, they can be $500+ for an 80w and go up to at least 120w. Like these:

    NEW GP 12V 80W Folding Solar Panel KIT Camping Power Generator Portable Battery | eBay

    80W Solar Panel Folding KIT Caravan Camping Power 80 Watt Mono Charging KIT | eBay

    120W Portable Folding Mono Solar Panel Blanket 10A Regulator Waterproof 5kg | eBay

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