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Thread: Retrofitting missing factory options to new-ish LR's; FL2, Evoque, D3/D4, RRS, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambo@oldjaguar View Post
    I would leave the tweeters, as far as i can tell they are the same as other Meridian cars with aluminium cone.

    The midrange and bass speakers for the doors are pretty clear.

    I really can't comment on the subwoofer, apart from it does appear that the L550 and L405 ones are interchangeable.
    Will the Reference/Signature one from the L405 be better? I don't know... maybe it's meant to take more power, which you aren't going to get with the stock amp... And as for a custom enclosure, again I can't say anything either way about that...

    Topix, Microcat, calling in a lot of favours, some inside contacts, it takes a while to find out all this stuff.
    Experience comes into it as well, i've done a lot of upgrades on late model JLR vehicles now, so you learn a lot as you go.
    I came across some tech sheets id neve seen before, not exactly for DS but for the very similar evoque:

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    meridian-evoque[4099].pdf

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    Finally got the car yesterday, audio is pretty good, better than expected, though i do see room for improvement, i definitely think i hear a sub woofer working. EDIT: Actually after further analisis, im not sure there is a subwoofer in my car... ive been trying some audio tests and i can hear frequencies as low as 28hz, but the seem to be comming from the base speakers... algo when i put my ear to where the sub is supposed to be (in the trunk on driver side), i cant hear a thing...

    I sneaked a picture of the AHU/Amp, have no idea what it is, doesnt look like the older hardware ive seen before... i cant seem to find any seat removal guies...

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    This is the sub on Jag XF premium systems:

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    So the sub has 8db more of sensitivity and everything else almost the same. Im mostly worried about linear excursion, id be looking to get a used one on ebay and attempt the retrofit. If it works this should translate to a pretty good improvement of the stock sub...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambo@oldjaguar View Post

    INCONTROL TOUCH MERIDIAN® SOUND, 380W
    [ENHANCED SOUND SYSTEM (L2) "NLI HEAD UNIT LEVEL C"]
    == Note that in the F-Pace this is called BRANDED SOUND SYS (L3), but it's the same as (L2) in the L550

    Hey Cambo,

    According to TOPix this is whats installed, however im not sure i feel a sub in the trunk. Do you have any schematics of how to get to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvelasco View Post
    Do you have any schematics of how to get to it?
    Hi Mvelasco

    I have a Discovery Sport on order... so Im following your upgrades with interest.

    I found the Topix pdfs on the UK Discosport forum.

    Of relevance for you I found pdfs for the Infotainment details Infotainment General.pdf,

    Subwoofer removal Removal Subwoofer.pdf

    and Trim removal in the loadspace area Removal Loadspace Trim Panel.pdf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guthrie View Post
    Hi Mvelasco

    I have a Discovery Sport on order... so Im following your upgrades with interest.

    I found the Topix pdfs on the UK Discosport forum.

    Of relevance for you I found pdfs for the Infotainment details Infotainment General.pdf,

    Subwoofer removal Removal Subwoofer.pdf

    and Trim removal in the loadspace area Removal Loadspace Trim Panel.pdf.

    Hi Guthrie,

    Awesome info, i also have an account on that forum but didnt look hard enough i guess.

    After reading about the infotainment on the PDFs im a bit heartbroken. Comparing the Amp pictures on the PDF with the picture i took, it appears i have the E167298 Audio Amplifier Module, which is specified for the 190-250W system, and since i cant seem to hear a sub, im thinking ive got the 190w :S

    Im still going ahead with the mods proposed by Cambo. I do feel that the bass speakers are the weakest point of the whole setup, so im thinking the swap will make a substantial improvement. Ill be waiting on the sub tho as im not sure if it would be plug and play.

    I recently bought a full set of used speakers from the jaguar xf 09-11 (8X23-18808-AB / C2Z3438) on ebay:

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    I wont be using them all but this whole package cost the same as buying 4 used bass speakers individually. I have also ordered the meridian midranges LR033290 from lrdirect.

    Hopefully in the future, some sort of retrofit option will appear so i can push those speakers a bit more and add a sub...

    EDIT:

    Ive realized the following:

    Opt 1: The E167298 amp is a 190w-250w amp, but the 250W is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH MERIDIAN® SOUND, 380W.
    Opt 2: The E167299 amp is a 250w amp, and is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH PRO MERIDIAN® DIGITAL SOUND, 380W.

    The difference between these two being the DIGITAL keyword, as option 2 uses the MOST bus. If im correct, Cambo mentioned that there arent that many discos built using the E167299?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvelasco View Post
    After reading about the infotainment on the PDFs im a bit heartbroken. Comparing the Amp pictures on the PDF with the picture i took, it appears i have the E167298 Audio Amplifier Module, which is specified for the 190-250W system, and since i cant seem to hear a sub, im thinking ive got the 190w :S
    So it's the 10-speaker system then? I guess it will be possible to change the amp and add the subwoofer, if that's the case. But you will need a means of editing the CCF to do so...

    Quote Originally Posted by mvelasco View Post
    Im still going ahead with the mods proposed by Cambo. I do feel that the bass speakers are the weakest point of the whole setup, so im thinking the swap will make a substantial improvement. Ill be waiting on the sub tho as im not sure if it would be plug and play.
    Won't be plug & play, you will need the CCF changed to enable the sub.

    Quote Originally Posted by mvelasco View Post
    Ive realized the following:

    Opt 1: The E167298 amp is a 190w-250w amp, but the 250W is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH MERIDIAN® SOUND, 380W.
    Opt 2: The E167299 amp is a 250w amp, and is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH PRO MERIDIAN® DIGITAL SOUND, 380W.

    The difference between these two being the DIGITAL keyword, as option 2 uses the MOST bus. If im correct, Cambo mentioned that there arent that many discos built using the E167299?
    Not it is not MOST, it's the ethernet system. Only the very first of the L550's with 825W Meridian Surround had MOST...

    You will be able to add the sub if it's missing, but it will need the different amplifier and a CCF change.
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