Intel atom

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Originally Posted by dullbird

really? there are some out there with dual core in them and 2g of ram...thats only what my desktop is running

there are also a few around with full size keys

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The dual core Atom is not to be compared with other dual core processors! But not all "netbooks" use the Atom. Some use mainstream processors either AMD or Intel, but whether these should really be called netbooks is questionable. (A few use the ARM processors which cannot run Windows)

The line between notebook and netbook computers has become blurred - when netbooks were introduced they were about a quarter the price of small laptops (the small laptops were the most expensive ones then), but since then the performance and size range of netbooks has extended up (as has the price) and the performance and price of small notebooks has extended down (as has the price), so now ther is no real gap.

John

no John I'm talking Intel...not atom now

when I said I was looking for something small I mean around a 13/14inch screen preferably, most seem to come with 15.6" and I just dont know if this is small enough to carry around a lot

of course the biggest thing for me is using it for picture manipulation (and not talking extreme just touch ups etc) as I'm not always going to be at college so buying it just for this purpose is silly if I cant utilise it after.

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Originally Posted by dullbird

no John I'm talking Intel...not atom now
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Ummm.... Atom processors are made by Intel, so that statement is not exactly clear, although I think I know what you mean!

John

what I mean is intel dual core not atom dual core or are you suggesting they are the same thing?

I have a dual core duo in my desktop but I have seen smaller laptops with this in this is all I meant:)

IMO cheap laptops do not have a good screen to do PP of images.
They are ok for download images from the camera and organize them on folders.
Then when you are at home base you transer the images to the desk PC with a calibrated monitor.
In your case you have a Nikon camera so one good option will be to have Nikon Capture NX2 installed in the laptop.
With it you can review your nef images and also if you like concert some of them to jpg to send them to friends or post them on the web when you are away.
If you like to have capable laptop and be able to PP your images perhaps Apple will be the way to go but it will cost some $$$$$$ :)

don't like apple:)

I also disagree with the screen comment the screens on laptops have come on in leaps and bounds and even the cheap laptops have a better screen then a reasonable laptop I had 4 years ago.

they are very clear and I would even suggest that some of them are clearer then the screen I use now. which is probably about 2 years old

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Originally Posted by dullbird

don't like apple:)

I also disagree with the screen comment the screens on laptops have come on in leaps and bounds and even the cheap laptops have a better screen then a reasonable laptop I had 4 years ago.

they are very clear and I would even suggest that some of them are clearer then the screen I use now. which is probably about 2 years old

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Well, I guess that it is all related in how you like to have the final job done regarding image PP and printing.

The size of the images of a D80 or D200 generally a tiff format uncroped is of about 55mb, but because all the layers have to be left opened to do a possible correction in the proof to suit the profile of the printer and also the profile of the paper to be used the image it is going to be larger.
To get to this stage the screen have to be calibrated to suit the profiles mentioned.
To calibrate the screen the PC or laptop have to be in a room which have the light not affected by windows, etc and also the monitor have to be at a constant angle and position to not change the shades of the image.
To avoid having the tiff image with all the layers opened you will need proper monitor like the Eizo will cost from $ 2200 and the Apple itis not far behind.
Having this calibrated monitors allows you to send the work to a lab once you have their profiles in a jpg format.
I have a very good Samsung monitor calibrated to suit the printer where I send my jobs, but I have to leave all the layers opened for the final adjustments.
If you can achieve all the above factors in a laptop under $2000, you will be the world first photographer to do it so.
Cheers

what the hell are you talking about Arthur????

why are you carrying on about all this, when I have no intention of doing this with my laptop.

I don't even have my monitor at home now calibrated or my printer...I think your getting a bit way a head of your self here.

I said touch ups! not full blown PP....

and I stand by what I said there are laptops out there under 1000 bux which I would say are on comparison with the monitor I use now asus 22'' screen if not better. that is just my opinion.

minimum specs for lightrom is a P4 cpu and 1GB or ram an atom might just cut it.

I have used the dell latitude 2100 10" screen at work with 2GB ram they are pretty good on XP, about $800 touchscreen and webcam too.

but anyway ..........
I guess you need to decide
1. light weight, cheap, low power
2. more weight, more power, more cost.

saying that there are plenty of sub $1000 notebooks that do an decent job.
Dell do a 13" screen inspiron pentium SU4100, 4GB ram 7200rpm hdd 1366x768 res $850
or if you want 10" screen look at the mini 10 range from about $450

if your willing to consider a 15" laptop for $1050 you can get an i5 with 4gb ram it'll beat the pants off an any single or dcore in that price range

i have bought probably 60 dells in the last few years and had trouble with about 3, only 1 or which died, dell have excellent support.

Well i just found the perfect netbook / notebook?

Rugged PC Review.com: General Dynamics Itronix GD8000

4:3 touch screen, :cool: I hate stupid widescreen

it's only $4500 us and weighs 4kg :eek:........ oh well :(