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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post

    just make sure your microsoft account is upto date valid and working.

    sign into it using a web browser

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    Microsoft account is fine.

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    then go into settings on your computer, look at sign in options and turn it on, then turn it off if you don't want to use it to login.

    all the settings will be updated and that should be the end of it till something corrupts your settings again.


    Turn what on - are you talking about the PIN option? There is the option to use a PIN instead of a password, which I DON'T want to do. I just want to get rid of the annoying message asking me to change to a PIN login rather than a password. This happens every time I boot up, & has only happened since the April upgrade.

    As for me having a history of problems in this area, I have not had ANY problem with this since I did a clean re-installation about 1 year ago. The problem I previously had occurred during installation of Windows 10 when I did try to set up a PIN login. For some reason it didn't work, so I did a re-installation which was fine, & I made no attempt to set a PIN.

    The system has worked perfectly since then, through several update sequences, without incident until this April upgrade. The screens at bootup indicate clearly that MS are trying to move everyone to PIN logins by making it difficult to bypass the PIN request, which I consider unethical.

    I am just trying to find a way of eliminating this annoying message at bootup.

    Cheers,

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    turn it on then turn it off, thats the fix

    pretty simple really
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    turn it on then turn it off, thats the fix

    pretty simple really
    Sorry, It is still unclear to me what you are suggesting I "turn on then turn off". There is the option in Settings>Accounts>Login options to ADD a PIN, but nothing about turning anything on or off. If adding a PIN & then later cancelling it is what you are suggesting, I am reluctant to do this as several people with this problem have tried just this, & then found that the option to go back to a password for login is no longer available. I was rather hoping that there was a registry key which could be edited to eliminate the bootup screen hassling me to install a PIN which I am experiencing.

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    this is what should be in the acounts > sign in options of settings

    if you haven't got a pin setup then where it shows remove in this picture, it will have add or words to the effect

    pinscreenlatestwindows.jpg


    or you could try this

    Enable or Disable PIN History in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    this is what should be in the acounts > sign in options of settings

    if you haven't got a pin setup then where it shows remove in this picture, it will have add or words to the effect

    pinscreenlatestwindows.jpg


    or you could try this

    Enable or Disable PIN History in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
    Thanks incisor, this is all good stuff. I have tried setting a PIN & then after login, going to the sign-in options screen & cancelling it. This makes no difference - at the next reboot the annoying message is back as large as life!

    However, overnight I notice that at the initial screen after bootup, below the panel where one enters password or PIN to login, MS seems to have added 2 sign-in option icons - either MS Hello, or MS account password. Using the password enables a clean password login without the "create PIN" hassling screen. I suspect MS have responded to pressure & introduced this new option, which has not appeared on my computer until this morning.

    This seems to have solved my problem, unless anything else changes. Thank you very much for your help.

    Cheers,

    Lionel

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    that prompt selection of microsoft account password is the usual default option on the vast majority of systems

    sounds to me like something on your system has been playing with group policy settings

    you have a working solution so all is good....
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    Another note about this one.. you can actually set your PIN to include letters and symbols (kinda like a password).

    If it is just for one computer the security difference is really not that much, but this is actually more secure for business as the PIN is only for that one device and your password remains the key to your account, but you aren't using it all the time for it to be found out.

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    but maybe forgotten?


    and yes, I've gone to a pin. Its just more efficient and I get that much more time on the pc to do, er, work.
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