Win 10 - Mail System

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Originally Posted by garrycol

..... with inbox/outbox/sent folders and the ability for me to create local folders of my choosing. In addition does it have a usable contacts folder.

Thanks

Garry

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Yeah, it's called Address Book. Can sync with your phone contacts too. Not that you want phones numbers stored in an email client, but it's a good way to have backups too.

I use the Calendar feature very heavily now. So I set up T/bird to view the Calendar. My main use for the calendar is to mark my work shifts, they change all the time, I sometimes get cancelled, etc, etc so it's handy having the calendar as a sort of diary for work, as well as personal stuff.
So I set up a couple of Google calenders for he ability to sync on the mobile too.
I found that using Google Calendar directly was a PITA, and I hate the way it displays, and MS's calendar both on Outlook and the Calendar app in Win10 are pretty useless too.

And for backup I use a program called MozBackup.

Note that over time saving(or archiving mail) does build up some half decent bits and bytes!
I originally came from Eudora(mail client) and I or it lost some mails from work with my pay invoices.
So, tried Tbird, looked good enough, transferred mails easily(which is will also do from any Outlook based system too) I think either before or about '07, so been using Tbird for 10+ years now.
Obviously a lot of email nowadays is primarily junk, but some are keepers(eg. I still have my pre '07 Oziexplorer registration email confirmation).
All those saved/archived mails take up space, even tho the email itself is only a kB or two, the attachments will bloat it. So my current Tbird profile sits at about 3.5Gb, 3.1G of which makes up the archived mails.

All the important profile data is saved in your User/roaming/tbird folder, in there will be a folder with a weird cryptic naming convention eg. Zyx46tJlifX .. or something weird.
All the T'bird data is in here. You could archive just that cryptic folder itself, but as said over time it's size will be quite large.
MozBackup does enough to compress that saved data down to approx half that size(or less).
So as you move your PC needs from one device to another and you stick with Tbird; you install Tbird(DON'T OPEN it tho) just have it installed and before you use it restore the backup via Mozbackup.
I you do a manual folder dragging backup and restore it the same way, you need to open Tbird, allow it to create a profile, then add the profile folder you saved back into the newly created appdata directory.
Once done, you then change profile within Tbird and you're good to go again.

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Originally Posted by DAMINK

THUNDERBIRD FTW!!

Generally speaking dont use any of windblows built in tools apart from the OS. Firewall, AV, Email, Players, Burners etc etc. All crap on windows and there are better free programs available IMO.

Just Right Click on the email account and it will show NEW FOLDER in thunderbird.

I use thunderbird to collect all my emails. From domains, free providers like gmail, hotmail etc. All of them come together in an easy to read place.
A plesent tool to use. Never had issues with it.

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Thanks. I will give it ago. I cant give thanks because my thanks button does not work on this new computer with W10 on Chrome but it will if I open with firefox
Keith

MMM OK I made a new folder, now how do I get the mail I am looking at into it.
I still only have the archive option? with reply , junk, delete and more.

Keep on asking the questions [thumbsupbig].

I am going to download Thunderbird tonight so will most likely have the same questions as you.

Garry

To move an email to a specific folder you would do the following.

Right Click Move To..... (Navigate to your inbox then your new folder).

Just tested and works fine mate.

Here is an UNEDITED pic lol.... Oops but who cares right??

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Ok - downloaded Thunderbird but it will not set up my mail account - says the password is wrong. But what I entered is correct as it works to open my mail account at my ISP - so not sure where to from here - if it does not recognise my mail and password then there is little point trying to use it.

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Ok - downloaded Thunderbird but it will not set up my mail account - says the password is wrong. But what I entered is correct as it works to open my mail account at my ISP - so not sure where to from here - if it does not recognise my mail and password then there is little point trying to use it.

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Different email providers work differently sometimes.

Here is a link that may help.

Manual Account Configuration | Thunderbird Help

Thanks but it is not the account configuration that is the issue - it recognises my ISP etc but will not accept my ISP password - I think the issue is that Thunderbird thinks the password is linked to my email address but it is not - it is linked to my ISP username. Thunderbird asks for my email then the password - that is not how my ISP works - to enter my ISP mailbox I enter my Username and Password - not email.

After a few goes at the loading stage using the recommended setup button it still would not accept my password for the mail account so I uninstalled it and tried a custom install to my D Drive and it worked. In the recommended install it places the program on the Windows C drive with no options. With the custom setup I could place the program on D drive with all my other programs and now it works.

It sucked in all the inbox messages for the last 45 days from my ISP and I sent a message to myself from my phones Gmail account so it is receiving emails. I have found the outbox, trash and sent folders.

What is odd is that it has all the folders from my computer windows explorer listed down the left the Thunderbird main page - not sure how i get rid of them - am reluctant to just delete them in case it actually removes them from the computer.

So it is basically installed and running in a basic fashion - just need to read into how to set it all up, get rid of Windows Explorer down the left side and import emails and contacts from my old Win Live mail.

Thanks for the help - no doubt I will have more questions as I get used to it.

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

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It sucked in all the inbox messages for the last 45 days from my ISP and I sent a message to myself from my phones Gmail account so it is receiving emails. I have found the outbox, trash and sent folders.
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Your Gmail, is not your phones Gmail account, it's your Gmail account. I recommend you also set T'bird up to access that account too.
The whole point of a PC based email client, is that it helps manage all your email accounts(assuming you have multiple)

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Originally Posted by garrycol

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What is odd is that it has all the folders from my computer windows explorer listed down the left the Thunderbird main page - not sure how i get rid of them - am reluctant to just delete them in case it actually removes them from the computer.

So it is basically installed and running in a basic fashion - just need to read into how to set it all up, get rid of Windows Explorer down the left side and import emails and contacts from my old Win Live mail.

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Now that is weird!
I've been using Tbird for a about 10 years or so now, and it's got better every few updates(like the calendar), but I've never seen that.
The folder list on the LHS should be of your email directory setup.

eg. you set up your email accounts whether that's one, or in my case 5 of them.
Up top of the list is the actual email account folders inboxes all setup under the inbox folder. then for each of the email accounts, it places all the draft, templates, sent archives, junk, trash folders for each account into those main headings.

So bascially, if you click on one of those main top folders, for example inbox heading, it then shows you all the mail in all the inboxes for each email account. If you open the inbox main heading, you should see each of your email accounts, and you can click on an individual account name and see just the emails in that inbox.
Same goes for all the other main headings.

All that info, which leads up to the Local Folders item are all your internet based email data.

Local Folders is where all your locally stored data is placed.
If you click on Local Folders you're viewing any locally stored data.
I reckon what you've done is set the Local Folders directory structure to be one of your drives or something.
The Local Folders is simply where you want to 'archive' all your emails that you want saved.

eg. I have many emails I keep as they contain important info such as program keys, and log in details or whatever. most of my email just gets dumped completely(it'll be junk).

So rightclick the Local Folder icon and go to settings. In the new window look for the Local Directory: path setting, and hit browse. You can browse to whatever location, my guess is that yours is set to C:\ or something.
Wherever you set to to via the browse feature just remember this is where all your stored emails will end up going too.
The default location will be User\username\Appdata\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles \<long-cryptic-string-name> .. but you don't have to store emails there.
You could just as well set up an Saved Emails folder in your documents area or whatever.

And like you said, don't delete nothing it may almost certainly delete stuff you don't want too.

Once you set up the Local Folder correctly and to your liking, rightclick the Local folder again and select create folder.
It now creates a new sub folder under the local folder. This is probably the best way to store emails, It can get convoluted if you have multiple email accounts, but it's worth it.
Basically this is like your windows directory, you can create fdolers as you wish.
eg. I have Home bills folders. I have Business folders. eg. Home invoices - Bills. All my emails from power/gas/rates/etc .. all get stored here. Every now and then(basically every other Eon!) I then clear them all out once I feel safe that billing company hasn't screwed me over on some issue.

and so on.

So when a new email comes through to your Tbird, it starts off 'on the internet' ina manner of speaking, and you first see it in the inbox under the mail account you're using.
From there, you want to either delete it or store it. To store it just drag it into the new folders you created under the Local Folders area.


Hope that makes sense.

Hi Arthur - the only reason I have a Gmail account is because it was needed in my phone setup - I do not use it and the only messages that come into it are from google. I will not be connecting it to thunderbird.

Attached is a screenshot and you can see that Windows Explorer folders are all listed down the side along with email local folders, inbox etc.

I can delete the folders to leave the email folders but I am not sure whether I am just deleteing the folders from Thunderbird or from the entire computer - I will do a test later to see. (Edit - just tested the folders do go from Thunderbird and not the main computer but when you restart Thunderbird they all come back.)

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Ps - Arthur not visible in this pic are the local folders at the bottom, so the Windows Explorer folders are not in the the Local Folders section - this is how Thunderbird set things up as installed I have not touched or changed anything. I guess that somewhere in the system there is a check box that says include Windows Explorer folders that is part of the default settings but I cannot find it.