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    first time for everything

    did something last night i never thought i would do

    i bought a dell 8930 mid tower variant for my work machine

    simply couldn't afford to buy another apple macpro, they have priced them well beyond my reach.

    my 2011 mac pro got hammered in a storm a week or so ago and the insurance company gave me the go ahead yesterday so ordered it was...

    9 day wait for delivery is off putting but i couldn't find anything else out there, that suited my needs, so i have to put up with it.

    will slowly buy parts to rebuild the mac if i can source them...

    looking into recent linux / bsd releases to see what i might install on the 8930 as i doubt i will want to use win10 on it.........
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    well it arrived and it is an impressive bit of kit for the money it has to be said.

    few days work ahead of me setting it up how i like them

    will be interesting to see how long windows 10 lasts on it....
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    win10: turn of telemetry. google it.
    apart from windows updates, win10 is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    win10: turn of telemetry. google it.
    apart from windows updates, win10 is good.
    yep, already turned that off and a few other things in the hosts file

    win10 is as good as windows has ever been but it isn't MacOS running on 12 x 3.6ghz cores by a long shot

    that said my old 17' macpro laptop boots Kubuntu and runs win10 especially well these days but the laptop has had it's nvidia gpu removed.
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    Hi

    Definately try one of the Linux flavours. The hardest bit will be getting a Win10 restore setup if you wish to go back :-)

    At home I run Debian on a Dell laptop, at work a Centos distribution. The latter has about 800 cores, 5.6 TB of RAM, and a few hundred TB of flash based disk.

    A Linux distro is efficient, updates are not forced on you, there are thousands of applications fron sewing to astronomy, far less problems with viruses, a nice community of developers and users. If you do use it try to get to one of the annual Linux confs. They encourage beginners and are great fun.

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    We have about 700 Dells running Win10 and the IT people seem fine with them. They're leased, so if they play up they get sent back for replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speleomike View Post
    Hi

    Definately try one of the Linux flavours. The hardest bit will be getting a Win10 restore setup if you wish to go back :-)

    At home I run Debian
    Macrium Relflect Free will sort the go back to windows problem if needed, first thing i did was image it so i had a proper backup of how it was delivered.

    AULRO.com runs on two modified Debian instances. i was a Debian consultant long before it was fashionable having made the leap from OS/2 to run my multiline BBS back in the day, before jumping to BSD based servers with prior incarnations of Aulro...

    Kubuntu seems the most stable thus far on my macpro laptop and in a Virtualbox vm on this new dell so i'll run with it for now i think
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    I used Kubuntu after changing from Mageia (Suse before that), but have been using Mint for years now - XFCE on my desktop, KDE on my laptop.
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    yeah mint looked okay but they have dropped the kde version although i quite liked cinnamon when i going through the various live discs

    neon, manjaro and opensuse looked the goods but play up on the mac and in a virtual box instance on the dell.

    debian would have been a pain putting all the 3rd party drivers in so didnt even bother

    and kubuntu behaves perfectly on them both so thats where i have landed for now...
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    “What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
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    Yes, my laptop is a version older than my desktop. I prefer KDE, but I am finding that I can live with XFCE. My old desktop I have set up with both KDE and XFCE - you can log in with whichever you want to. Just a matter of installing the system with one desktop and later installing the packages needed for a second desktop. I would think you could do the same with Ubuntu/Kubuntu etc.

    I find I prefer some of the KDE utilities over the XFCE ones - for example Gwenview and Dolphin, and they work perfectly well on the other desktop. (And I use Claws as my email client rather than Thunderbird or Kmail.) All these and many others are in the repositories (both Mint and Ubuntu) regardless of which desktop you favour.
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