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    Quote Originally Posted by Markf View Post
    If only there was a viable Outlook equivalent I'd ditch MS in a heartbeat.
    I've used thunderbird for years. For business stuff though I have a Zimbra install which gives me a credible web client, plus activesync and an MAPI interface for the one Outlook user left.

    I've used Linux on the desktop since about 96, but I keep a few windows VMs around for Office, AutoCAD and Revit. I find windows behaves better and runs faster in a VM than on the bare metal, plus I can deny it network access to the outside world. No phone home or updates without my explicit say-so. I can also upgrade the underlying machines without worrying about license keys or activation issues, plus duplicate/snapshot for testing stuff without crapping-up the windows install.

    Unfortunately I need Office for collaboration, but I use Libreoffice for pretty much anything I can get away with.

    My main office VM is still Office 2007 on XP 32 bit. I've had to upgrade to Windows 8.1 64 bit for the Cad VM, but it's cut and shut down to a minimum footprint.

    I have a very strong dislike for pretty much anything Microsoft, but unfortunately it's still pretty essential if you collaborate with other organizations. I reserve a special pit in hell for Outlook, but at least with everything on the Zimbra server a "delete/re-install" takes a matter of minutes with no config or data loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markf View Post
    If only IBM hadn't missed the boat with OS/2....
    arca noae still putting out up to date versions of os/2 for a price

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    "Bad microsoft experience"..................

    Is there any other sort ....... ?

    Microsoft has been making an art form out of screwing people and businesses over for decades. Even back in the 'good ol' DOS days' when HDD's cost a fortune and disc compression software was all the go Microsoft stole disc compression software and incorporated it into DOS 6 until the owners took Microsoft to court and this DOS version was withdrawn, replaced with DOS 6.x without disc compression software.

    Microsoft pulled a similar trick with Java in the Win98/XP days, got all huffy when Sun? (the owner) complained about being dudded so Microsoft screwed over all Windows users that needed Java for graphics etc. Microsofts reputation was so poor that they even ran a "Trust Microsoft" advertising campaign a few years ago, what a hoot, it was roundly derided as a joke and the ultimate oxymoron, unsurprisingly the campaign was a failure.
    Microsoft is not a very nice, honest or decent company. IMO it has the corporate morality of Atilla the Hun


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markf View Post
    It's close but it doesn't cut quite cut it for me. If I was looking for an email, contacts and calendar client I'd switch now but I use journaling a lot as well as storing docs, etc. in Outlook folders. Pity really....
    Thunderbird does have email, contacts and calendar but if it does not cut it try Evolution. That does have all 3 and can connect to MS authentication like AD.

    More importantly Thunderbird and Evolution still use mbox or maildir formats whereas with Outlook all of your mail is in it's own proprietary database. So it is only a matter of time till you find you can't access your emails on another system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speleomike View Post
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    Thunderbird does have email, contacts and calendar but if it does not cut it try Evolution. That does have all 3 and can connect to MS authentication like AD.

    More importantly Thunderbird and Evolution still use mbox or maildir formats whereas with Outlook all of your mail is in it's own proprietary database. So it is only a matter of time till you find you can't access your emails on another system.

    Mike
    I'm not worried about e-mail, contacts and calendars. They're easily transported to the client of my choice. What the sticking point is is the ability to store all sorts of docs, etc. in the Outlook folder of my choice. The other thing that I use is the outlook journal which MS are letting wither on the vine.

    If there were an e-mail client that could store things the way Outlook does in, say, a MySQL database in place of the PST file(s) I'd be happy but I haven't found one yet.

    I've given myself until the end of Jan '21, when my current Office 365 subscription runs out, to find a workable solution and then convert my wife to another e-mail client and Open Office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markf View Post
    If there were an e-mail client that could store things the way Outlook does in, say, a MySQL database in place of the PST file(s) I'd be happy but I haven't found one yet.
    Why do you wish to do that? A small mbox file (one for each year) is far more likely to be readable in the future than any SQL DB, even open source ones. A DB is only useful for that if you actually extract metadata from the docs that arrive in the email and add that to fields in a DB table, which is what Outlook does in its PST files.

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