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    A Plague upon the house of goats

    Ever wondered why lots of senior (ok, 'Ancient'...) IT retirees harbour a special dislike for Windows ?

    This was an eye-opener to devious dealings of a certain company, back then. Somehow, I don't think his business ethics has improved.

    Windows’ Hidden Self Destruct Code | Nostalgia Nerd - YouTube

    And a lighter moment,,, Why Does USB Keep Changing? | Nostalgia Nerd - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    Somehow, I don't think his business ethics has improved.
    Nor his ethical ones...

    Had a well reasoned and seriously enlightened response nearly read to post and my power went out. I'll post a more probable one maybe tomorrow.
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    Actually, I remember those times very well. I was trying for a different direction in the early 90s. Learning TurboPascal and trying to learn COBOL. MS were already beginning to dominate, and  were on life support, regardless that their GUI was far superior to anyone else's offerings. At the school it was all MS Dos, with Windows 3 appearing. We also had limited access to a VAX system running UNIX. To me, MS Dos sucked. At that time DR Dos seemed more stable. IBM's OS/2 was almost revolutionary for the time. I had both, as did most of the students. Most of them were 15/20 years younger than me and ran rings around me, but still I learned. I learned that DOS was limited and that Windows was a total rip off of Macintosh OS. I also learned that Windows was a very poor patch overlay over DOS. The guy we aren't mentioning stole the idea from . I also learned that serious computing needs UNIX, which is WAY more powerful than anything MS has to offer.

    It was MS's deal with IBM that killed Digital Research. It also killed OS/2, which ironically came from IBM. It also very nearly killed IBM itself. MS, once it had achieved near dominance in the emerging PPC market, licensed DOS to anyone who could throw a few boards in a beige box. Thus the proliferation of expensive 2/3/4/86 POS boxes began. ( IBM was in the business of selling beige boxes, for a good profit margin ). Most deserved to be in landfill before they were sold to bewildered consumers. With a kaching! for every MS license. MS killed everyone. Except of course UNIX, which is far superior to anything MS does in every way. Then there's . Ironically, it was MS that helped pull  out of bankruptcy, having helped put them there in the fiest place. For reason's Im not sure even Bill Gates understands, MS developed a version of the Office Suite that was better than the one they offered their own Windows customers, for the then OS X. So, you could have Office as well as a vastly superior GUI on stable, high end equipment, with  level build quality?

    OS/X, more recently macOS, and Linux all run UNIX. Better. Hands down...

    Ducks.......
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    OS/2 is still alive and running as well

    IBM sold the rights and it has been on sold a couple of times...

    up until very recently i used to support them but since my semiretirement i have had to let go of many of the little things i used to keep an eye on..

    ArcaOS 5.0 from Arca Noae is the new release of OS/2 for the 21st century

    i used to run a multiline BBS on os/2 with 16 inbound lines... windows could only mange to run 4 and even then it struggled

    them were the days...


    actually the first iteration of AULRO ran on os/2 ...
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    The spirit of OS/2 lives on in today's MS Windows. MS used the development code during their joint venture with IBM and released Windows NT, which was fundamentally the MS version of OS/2. The original Windows died with ME and all new versions thereafter were derived from the NT side of things.

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    Hmm. These days I'm lucky if I can write an AppleScript. But I may have to see if I can run OS/2 in emulation, for the nostalgia.

    FWIW, I followed  when they went UNIX after they bought NeXt and with it Steve Jobs. I still have that first Mac, a G4 Cube. I have another iMac which runs Linux Mint, although I'm not sure why. This one, while unsupported by  runs Monterey 12.1, so I still play a little.  stopped supporting this iMac with Big Sur, but with a tweak or two it runs Monterey just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post

    actually the first iteration of AULRO ran on os/2 ...
    What does it run on now? NT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    What does it run on now? NT?
    Linux servers
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    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
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    'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    Linux servers
    Ahh. Makes sense. UNIX again..
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